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  1. My wife and myself decided to head up to Woody today specifically to watch and enjoy the 5 jumping races , and what a fantastic few hours , sun was out but was still a bit chilly , a great crowd was on course and what a great spectacle all 5 jumping races provided . The crowd was much, much larger than I expected and were vocal in the finishes which of course always adds to the atmosphere . The races themselves were all great contests and other than one race won by a margin the rest provided competitive finishes , two exceptional jumpers won the big races in West coast and Berry the Cash but all the horses and jockeys deserve kudos for their efforts . Whoever thinks that jumping doesn't deserve to be a part of our future has no understanding of the sport , I hope NZ racing as a whole can get together and find solutions to the current situation . My heart says yes but my head says no , after today I hope my heart is right . Well done to all involved .
    23 points
  2. Why only keep adding to the top end, those fields will still be the same as they would have been anyway...all that money could have pushed up normal races a bit so the pot is shared by all not just a few...JMO.
    13 points
  3. One of New Zealand’s greatest Jockeys passed in the early hours of this morning, Garry Edge. A champion guy, RIP Garry, one of a kind.
    13 points
  4. Was chatting to the guy who works at one of my (two) local TAB outlets and realised that I have now reached that stage where I'm one of those old people bemoaning the changes they're making at the TAB to go digital and save costs. I've been comfortable with most of the previous changes (eg. no phonebet) but this one has tipped me over the edge. They're replacing the printed sheets on the walls at the TAB outlets, with those touch screen monitors where you can look at the days races/form. I know this will save a heap on paper/ink and they are cutting back on staff hours because they don't need to print and put up the sheets, but for me this is a another nail in the coffin of retail stores. The printed sheets are so much easier to access and to use - easy to run your eye over the whole field and jump from race to race without having to scroll up and down or exit and find the next race. You can also have 2 or 3 people looking at the same sheets at the same time. and what about the majority of customers at my local(s) who can't even use an SST. How on earth are they going to navigate their way around those screens? Rant over! Yours Digital dinosaur
    11 points
  5. The guy was a good jockey why not just wish him well in his retirement...a bloody good career.
    11 points
  6. Seems it happens so much these days its not even mentioned...we really are a joke horses slipping on a slow 7...really...you really have to ask yourself WTF is going on....but nothing will change as NOBODY is ever held accountable...they will come out some bullshit platitudes report and then back to business as normal.
    10 points
  7. Pete Lane

    Jayne Ivil

    Welcome back!
    9 points
  8. Palliser

    Nigel McGrath Appeal

    He's been in strife more than once, no place in the sport for these people full stop. You know the saying a repeat offender and a leopard never changes its spots.
    9 points
  9. Well the complete lack of response on here shows that NZTR have won the battle , the apathy towards just another abandonment is exactly what was required from participants and supporters for them to continue to run this industry into the ground for the average participant . They have become such a common and run of the mill occurrences that we now just shrug our shoulders and put our shoulders back to the grind stone , just another day at the office . This is not a dig at us for not commenting , it gets to a point where you think why waste breath on it , more important things to be trying to fix . Well done NZTR , poor practice has become acceptable .
    9 points
  10. nomates

    Royal Ascot 2024

    I look forward to Royal Ascot and the Cheltenham festival more than most NZ racing . Very sad . It's amazing that tradition is so fervently held onto in other older racing jurisdictions but we seem to have very a nonchalant attitude to ours .
    8 points
  11. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1456003701975493
    8 points
  12. BSherwin

    commentators

    Yes, readily admit I was a bit off this stint. Rhythm/timing was off and over-enthusiastic.
    8 points
  13. The malaise set in long before Sharrock. He didn't initiate the downward trend. But you are quite right that he - and his Board that presumably set policy - have done little to reverse it. Previous Boards/ CEO'S have done about as much.
    7 points
  14. Totally agree with the programming issue, and the strangest thing about it is it doesn't actually cost money to fix. I solely blame CEO Sharrock, it’s one area they can get quick wins without costing capital, but the real question is why the lack of focus from the top to fix the issue?
    7 points
  15. Frankel has been acknowledged to be an elite sire for so long now that it’s easy to forget the brouhaha that once attended every stage of his second career at stud. Never in my professional lifetime has a horse’s progress as a stallion been monitored so obsessively. In fact, after he retired to Banstead Manor Stud in 2013 the Racing Post launched Frankel Watch. No pressure there, then. A double-page splash around the first day of the breeding season marked the fact that he had settled into his new surroundings, had already shown an appetite for the job at hand by successfully covering a test mare, and was about to be mated properly for the first time with the great Midday that morning. Just over a fortnight later, the news of the first mare in foal to Frankel – Coolmore’s dual Group 3 winner Chrysanthemum – was eagerly reported across the racing and bloodstock media. But that wasn’t enough to slake the thirst of racing fans for Frankel news so soon after the charismatic colt had retired unbeaten, recognised as possibly the best racehorse of all time. There was no way they would be able to wait until the following year when the mares would foal for the next update on their hero, and so Juddmonte’s then general manager Philip Mitchell kindly and patiently spelt out the details of the young sire’s debut breeding season to Racing Post readers that July. He reported that Frankel had covered 133 mares and that, of those, 126 had been scanned in foal at a rate of 95 per cent. The figure was all the more impressive for the fact that six of the seven mares not in foal had been pregnant before suffering early foetal deaths. His stellar first book had included 38 Group or Grade 1 winners and 26 dams of Group or Grade 1 winners, with two mares, Zee Zee Top and Zomaradah, fitting in both categories. Juddmonte had sent him 24 of its own mares. Soon after came news of the first mares being covered to southern-hemisphere time in Newmarket that summer, including John Singleton’s top-class pair More Joyous and More Strawberries, and a few months later came the announcements of the in-foal European mares being catalogued for the breeding-stock sales. One was Chrysanthemum, who was knocked down to Haras Don Alberto for 800,000gns at Tattersalls that December, although she was upstaged at the auction by Oaks heroine Dancing Rain, who also had a positive pregnancy to the dual world champion, and was sold to Godolphin for 4,000,000gns. Frankel Watch resumed in 2014 with the arrival of the first foal, a bay colt out of the by-then household name Chrysanthemum, at Coolmore on January 11. A scramble ensued to procure pictures of the world-famous newborn. That was only the first male progeny, though; clearly a separate report was needed when the sire’s first filly, a daughter of the well-bred Sadler’s Wells mare Song, was born at the National Stud a short time afterwards. Photos of her were widely circulated. Proud breeders continued to dripfeed news of bonny Frankel foals being born in the early months of 2014. A particularly sweet picture of Danedream doting on her freshly born filly took up most of the front page of the Racing Post one day that January, demoting an important industry story about FOBTs to a narrow strip. At that point, most people had seen only selected pictures of Frankel foals, but that all changed in June when it was revealed that Qatar Racing would sell a colt out of Crystal Gaze with his dam at the inaugural Goffs London Sale. As recalled in Friday’s Good Morning Bloodstock, footage of the pair being sold made the BBC News at Ten. They really were heady times for racing. The sale of the Crystal Gaze colt did little to dampen enthusiasm for the bulk of the commercially bred Frankel foals who came under the hammer later in the year, although many experts at the sales gave them a bit of a tepid reception. The filly out of Finsceal Beo topped the Goffs November Foal Sale at €1.8 million, at least. Frankel Watch in 2015 concerned itself with the second-crop foals – yes, in this case, even they were newsworthy – and the first yearlings to go through the ring. Again, the market’s surprising coolness towards them was a major talking point of the time, although the €1.7m sale of a filly out of Alexander Goldrun at Goffs provided some welcome headlines. The excitement surrounding Frankel’s first two-year-olds was already incredibly high in the spring of 2016 and it was cranked up to 11 when his very first runner, Chrysanthemum’s son Cunco, won on debut for John Gosden at Newbury in mid-May, despite acting a little coltily in the preliminaries. A first stakes winner came not long after, when Juddmonte homebred Fair Eva bolted up in the Princess Margaret Stakes at Ascot in July, and a debut top-level scorer was recorded before the end of the year, as Soul Stirring, a Japanese-foaled daughter of Stacelita, took the Hanshin Juvenile Fillies. In the following year Soul Stirring also became Frankel’s first Classic winner in the Yushun Himba (Japanese Oaks). Later in 2017 Cracksman, who had gone close in the Derby and Irish Derby, became the sire’s first European Group 1 winner in the Champion Stakes. He became champion sire in Britain and Ireland for the first time in 2021, and regained his crown last year, when Cracksman supplied the unbeaten champion Ace Impact from his own first crop. Seven years and 140 black-type winners since Fair Eva – Delius became the latest when scoring decisively in the Prix du Lys at Chantilly yesterday – Frankel is no longer scrutinised as a sire. It is now taken for granted that he is an outstanding source of top-class horses and will likely be a breed-shaper. There was one more significant landmark he passed yesterday, though, as Sparkling Plenty became his first Group 1 winner as broodmare sire with a smooth victory in the Prix de Diane for Patrice Cottier. Jean-Pierre Dubois’ homebred filly is by Frankel’s studmate Kingman and is a sister to Jersey Stakes winner Noble Truth out of Speralita, a half-sister to multiple Group 1 scorer Stacelita, who provided another of Frankel’s ground-breakers in Soul Stirring. Sparkling Plenty could evoke memories of Frankel’s early days as a sire again today, as she is set to go under the hammer at the Goffs London Sale, which was illuminated by the sire’s first sales foal a decade ago this year. Frankel’s brilliance as a sire, and his potential importance as a sire of sires and broodmare sire, is heartily deserved for Juddmonte, who launched the career of its own son this year, Chaldean, and will have a stockpile of daughters to breed from now and in future. The late Khalid Abdullah’s operation was, after all, so open and generous in sharing Frankel with his fans and bloodstock industry enthusiasts after he retired out of the public eye 12 years ago. The team at Banstead Manor Stud went over and above in sharing news, pictures and videos of the horse, with even a few lighthearted moments here and there. I particularly enjoyed Frankel wielding a broom, cheering on Britain’s curling team at the Winter Olympics in 2014. Even now, Frankel's handler Rob Bowley will happily help visitors to the farm take a selfie with their hero. Admittedly, the Racing Post’s Frankel Watch sometimes felt a little OTT, recording his every mating and movement and then the actions of all his early progeny in the ring and on the track too. But looking back now, I miss it. It seemed to unite everyone in cheering for a common cause (except a few Sea The Stars loyalists, although they and Frankel fans really don’t need to be mutually exclusive). Better that than the constant snark and self-congratulation seen on social media these days. There are still some diehards conducting their own Frankel Watch on Facebook and Twitter, like those Japanese soldiers who kept on fighting in the jungle long after the end of World War Two, and I salute them. Their love of the horse is what racing and breeding should all be about. P.S. Thank you Martin Stevens for allowing me to copy and paste. The photo is of our Joan the punter in the competitions.
    7 points
  16. Lee270744

    Where's Mango??

    An old bloke told me once you can tell a man his girl is getting potted all over town but tell him his horse is no good and he wants to fight you.
    7 points
  17. You just need to think about what you say to and about others to see why people react so strongly to you...maybe take a step in others shoes before you pull them up on what you perceive as mistakes...if you cant take it then dont give it out then you will be fine in here...JMO.
    7 points
  18. Memphis3

    Jayne Ivil

    Jayne’s a star. Such a professional. Missed the first few races then saw she was there at race 3. I was telling a mate I would have gone it I’d know she was there instead of Sweens.
    7 points
  19. Pak Star

    Jayne Ivil

    Just settled in after a morning of errands and flicked the tv on hoping "Sweenz" wasnt rostered on so this was a pleasant surprise. On a somewhat related note, I know trackside wanted to shift focus to its people and the industry when they rebranded, and they seem to be doing a good job of it so far.
    7 points
  20. We had a lot of fun with a horse got left with, he wanted me to take it, I wasn’t to keen but he had spelled a lot of horses for me over the years and I wanted to help him out. i took the horse and he turned out a handy fellow, name after Garry and I, Wooden Edge. i syndicated him amongst stable clients, Viktoria Gatu one numerous races on him.
    7 points
  21. Well said.
    7 points
  22. nomates

    Royal Ascot 2024

    Absolutely fantastic week of racing , the coverage of every aspect of the meeting was top notch , and to be honest it wasn't a vintage quality of horses with the odd exception , but they all put on a show . One small critique , they have stop all this tradition crap , no place for it in this modern day , they should chop this week up and move it around , it would much more successful . Tradition , Bah humbug . Oh and one other thing , what's this shit with letting owners get up close and personal with their horses and the people who look after them , no no no , where was H&S for goodness sake , can't be having this , need to keep them well away , don't want the people forking out the cash feeling like they are part of the action . Well done the Poms , useful for some things .
    6 points
  23. Occupied in the 80's and 90's by Cliff Goss, Robbie Robinson and Peter Sears A wonderful couple of hours with Cliff winning the Stakes race at Tauranga and Peter's son, Tony and grand daughter Maddysen winnng the Ipswich Cup magical
    6 points
  24. Insider

    commentators

    BRING BACK TONY
    6 points
  25. I think Fenwick was ok too....but without wishing to be an apologist for the various CEO's, the respective Boards have to be held responsible. Their job is to set policy and their executive officers carry that out to the best of their respective abilities. Sure, they are in the front line and cop a lot of the flak - with some justification - but where is the vision and expertise from those board members? Can you think of one over the last twenty years who stands out with enlightened policy decisions that have achieved something? The snowball keeps on gathering momentum.
    6 points
  26. Look at how many maidens were balloted and eliminated at Oamaru today. Only one scratching out of each maiden race so only one ballot got in. Several others eliminated. Only three maidens programmed, no desire to split any of them. Even more bizarrely, no maidens programmed at Riccarton this weekend. Three maidens programmed at Tauranga, yet that is a higher profile meeting, and there are midweek meetings with heaps of maiden opportunities every week in the north. Does anyone have any idea how all that works? I see NZTR has employed a media chap on massive money to promote one race. I'm sure he's a nice chap, but surely employing a programming expert to get the programming right would be a a better way to spend money. I saw a mention somewhere that a horse that won a few days ago in the CD doesn't have another opportunity until the end of July. All the money being thrown at stakes, but programming is worse than ever, horses eliminated all over the place. There seems to be no signs of improvement, and hasn't been for years. But hey we have a $3m sweepstake race so all is good. Entain's approach with trotting seems to be to throw in heaps of 'product" with endless rubbish meetings, but with the gallops they don't seem interested in product and are happy to see horses eliminated and owners disillusioned and quitting the game, as long as they can have one or two wankfest meetings a year. Basing the whole industry around a couple of big meetings a year may work if you are in Melbourne and can attract almost 400,000 people for a week's racing, but not such a successful approach if you are relying on a club that can only attract 16,000 people for its one or two big days.
    6 points
  27. nomates

    The Cossack

    FREAK ! FREAK ! FREAK !!! He just puts a smile on your face , love the horse .
    6 points
  28. 300 driving wins make that 301 now for the young lady. Well done her. Should get more drives . Never knocks them around. P.G senior would be very proud of her.
    6 points
  29. pogo(aus)

    Jaylah Kennedy (nz)

    https://www.facebook.com/racingdotcom/videos/jaylah-kennedy-on-handling-a-bad-ride/336547119309829/ another metro winner at Sandown yesterday. riding very well , massive bonus with a claim in the melbourne winter, many more wins ahead one would imagine.
    6 points
  30. I still miss the handwritten yellow tickets when you had to put your bet on an hour and a half before the race and couldn’t collect till the next day And they call this progress
    6 points
  31. Peter R S

    commentators

    Has to be one of the toughest jobs there is, especially with you lot standing on the sideline criticising!
    6 points
  32. Idolmite

    Trackside

    She's hear and their and everywear
    6 points
  33. My opinion FWIW is if you treat horses so badly and cruel..then I dont think you deserve the right to train them to make money from doing so...let him keep doing the pre training but he should not get a licence back...as I say just my opinion..I could never have a horse with someone who treated them like a piece of meat.
    6 points
  34. Baz (NZ)

    Jayne Ivil

    Pip Morris & Jayne Ivil are a breath of fresh air. Keep up the good work Trackside.
    6 points
  35. Memphis3

    Jayne Ivil

    Does Innes ever tip anything but the favourite.?
    6 points
  36. Pam Robson

    Well said Sean

    Yes. A double-edged sword, as you put. There are times where I have to cringe at the sight of some of the performances, but I've long felt that if you don't support the local product, there very soon won't be one. At least the new mentor for apprentices, Jason Laking, will do a very good job and seems to be having a beneficial effect already. He rides regular trackwork too, so is johnny-on-the-spot to address problems.
    6 points
  37. Thanks for posting that interview Hedley .....great insight into the great 'journeyman' D G Bradley .....always happy and smiling ....gee ain't that somthing these days! Also the interviewer is a class act as well...A P Neill .....always asks the right questions that allows the interview to flow .....there is an art in that so well done AP.
    6 points
  38. Tauhei Notts

    Well said Sean

    The gentleman from Invercargill has a point. Have a look at the crowds at Wingatui on Melbourne Cup day, Invercargill just prior to Christmas and Riverton on Easter Saturday. Then have a look at the crowds on course at Cambridge gallops, then condescendingly refer to the Southland president as "having a crack". That is sick.
    6 points
  39. Thanks Chris. Garry was a living legend. His recall of races he rode in 50-60 years ago was amazing. I learnt so much while chatting with him! For the record Garry rode 740 winners in NZ. His first win was on the 23/4/55 at Te Aroha on Sweet Wren trained by his boss Wally Townsend. He named his immaculate farm on St Kilda Road Sweet Wren Lodge after her. His best season was 1965-66 when he rode 53 winners finishing 4= on the Jockeys Premiership. He was in the top 10 jockeys a total of 10 times. His biggest win was the 1972 Australian Cup on Jan's Beau. He won the 1964 Auckland Cup on Senor. Wills Champion Stakes 3 times. Clifford Plate 3 times. 1962 Easter on Otematata and 1963 on Final Command. The 1962 Railway on Otematata and 1963 on Pipe Dream. 1965 GN Guineas on Urupukapuka 1969 on Piko 1976 on Vice Regal. Kings Plate 3 times. 1962 GN Derby on Tatua 1968 on Bardall 1969 on Piko. 3 Gt Northern St Legers. 1963 GN Oaks on Noranda 1967 on Dee Dee and 1976 on Mer'Cler. 2 Avondale Cups. 4 Taumaranui Cups.5 Waikato Guineas. 1965 Foxbridge Plate on Urupukapuka 1969 and 1971 on Bardall. The first horse he ever sat on was Foxbridge when he was only 4. His Dad took him to Trewlaney Stud and stud groom Syd Marsh lifted him aboard Foxbridge. 1972 NZ St Leger on Llananthony. An outstanding jockey and a real gentleman.
    6 points
  40. You are missing the point it means the track was not prepared properly in the first place otherwise horses would not slip...yes agree stewards when it gets to that stage have no choice but why does it keep getting to that stage its a joke.
    6 points
  41. say no more

    LGL Results

    Week 5 results This week we lost the following 10 entrants and we're left with 25, more than half of whom are down to their last life.
    6 points
  42. There are several aspects to yesterday's abandonment that no one seems to notice, or perhaps people have just given up. I had a look at the meeting a few days ago and noticed there were about 55 Canty horses heading south. To race for $17,000. And they weren't going there for easier competition, they were basically going to race against the same horses they would race against in Canty. And they have a local meeting coming up this week, but of course that is on the AWT. And most of those Canty horses would have returned home without a race. It is 5 hours from ChCh to Wingatui. 3.5 hours from Canty to Blenheim, 4.5 hours from Matamata to Wairoa. Blenheim and Wairoa were wiped out because it is considered too far for horses to travel. But no problem driving 5 hours to Wingatui to race for $17,000 in the winter. Canty trainers obviously want a grass track meeting at this time of year, but NZTR refuse to schedule one because of their bloody minded arrogance. The big thing though, is that the trainers don't seem to care. They don't seem to care about abandoned meetings or about having to drive 5 hours for a low key meeting. Perhaps they do care, but do all of their complaining to NZTR behind closed doors. If that has been their approach it doesn't seem to be working and perhaps they should be going public with their concerns. Meanwhile most of the rating 65 milers that missed out on a start yesterday will miss out again this week. Poor bloody owners. 4 and 6 horse fields at Puke and Trentham for $45,000 and $40,000. Is the cunning plan to get the southerners to head north if they want a start?
    6 points
  43. coro fan

    Well said Sean

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350287844/deep-south-poor-cousins-nz-thoroughbred-racing-criticised This is relevant to most clubs south of Ashburton……….
    5 points
  44. Akcam

    Nigel McGrath Appeal

    Should serve the full term of the suspension..
    5 points
  45. Nothing wrong with the motorway - just too many cars on it. Was planned and built before government decided to let immigrants in willy nilly
    5 points
  46. Change is coming at the trans-Tasman Ballymore Stables operation, with Pam Gerard set to take sole charge of the Matamata base. Established in 1982 by Hall of Fame trainer Michael Moroney, Ballymore Stables has become renowned for its achievements on both sides of the Tasman headed by a total of 55 Group One wins. The decision has now been made for Gerard, Moroney’s training partner since 2016, to assume ownership of the Matamata stables and for Moroney to relinquish his New Zealand trainer’s licence. “We’ve been working on a plan for the past 18 months to ensure the future success of both our stables, and the decision has been made for Pam to take ownership and sole charge of Ballymore’s Matamata operation,” Moroney said. “Pam joined Ballymore as a highly respected horsewoman and during her time with us she has excelled, not only with her hands-on role at Matamata but also for the development of horses moving between the two stables.” After beginning his career as foreman and then training partner of legendary horseman Dave O’Sullivan, Moroney went solo in 1982 and his very first starter, Bold Avon, was a winner. He claimed his first Group One win with Imperial Angel in the 1985 New Zealand 1000 Guineas and his first in Australia, the 1989 South Australian Oaks, with Heavenly Body. Moroney claimed back-to-back New Zealand trainers’ premierships in the mid-1990s before branching out with an Australian stable, originally in Adelaide and then in Melbourne, where he was allocated boxes at Flemington’s famous Chicquita Lodge. An early classic success was with Second Coming in the 1997 Victoria Derby, and the same horse finished third when stablemate Brew won the 2000 Melbourne Cup. That period also included the Blue Diamond Stakes with True Jewels, and at the end of the season Moroney was awarded the prestigious Fred Hoysted Medal for training excellence. While Brew’s famous victory secured Ballymore’s place in Australian racing, the Matamata stable has also continued to operate successfully, with major wins at home as well as being integral to the development of Australian Group One winners such as recent stars Roch ’N’ Horse and Tofane. Canterbury-born Gerard began her training career in the late 1990s and after moving north in 2011 to a senior position with Te Akau Racing, in 2016 she was offered the role as Ballymore New Zealand’s resident trainer. “Our paths happened to cross at the time I was looking for a change and when Mike made the offer I was happy to take on the challenge, it was too good an opportunity to turn down,” Gerard said. Subsequent years have seen Gerard flourish in her role, winning at Group One level with On The Rocks as well as multiple elite level placings to Savile Row, Arrogant, Harlech and Roch ’N’ Horse. In the current season, Group and Listed wins by Pendragon, Savaglee, Pericles and Sassy Merlot head a tally of 31 that have Ballymore in the top 10 on the New Zealand trainers’ table. “It’s hard to believe that I’ve been with Ballymore for nearly a decade now, but it’s been fantastic to work alongside Mike and benefit from his vast knowledge and training skills,” Gerard said. “Now I have a fresh challenge presented to me and I’m looking forward to the next step in my career. I’m very grateful for everything Mike has done for me to this point, and it means a lot that while I will be the sole licence-holder in the New Zealand stable, it will be business as usual with Mike continuing to have input. “The timing is good to strike out on my own, what with the stakes increases and other incentives that we’ve seen this season. That will also mean horses in the Melbourne stable coming across to make the most of those opportunities, and of course horses from the Matamata stable going over there.” While the new structure, set to take effect on July 1, will mean change, Moroney remains confident about the future. “Just as Dave O’Sullivan supported me in my early years, I will continue to support Pam, which includes the two stables working in tandem as we plan programmes for respective stable members,” Moroney said. “You would be aware of my recent health challenges, however, I’m pleased to report that I’m making very good progress and responding well to the fantastic medical care I’ve been so fortunate to receive and I’m now at home. “It’s very satisfying to see how well the two stables have continued to perform and I’m grateful for the efforts of all our staff as well as the good wishes and support received from so many of Ballymore’s clients. “Everyone involved in Ballymore can rest assured that the new structure will prove just as effective as it has over the years, and we look forward to further successes in both New Zealand and Australia.”
    5 points
  47. MAJESTIC

    Nigel McGrath Appeal

    Do The Crime / Pay With The Time
    5 points
  48. Just be aware that people can be held VERY accountable for adverse comments in public, to the point that many just aren't prepared to risk consequences. And an attempt to get some acknowledgment that things must, and will, change, from H.Q is met with [ as aptly termed ] a rinse-and-repeat of the same old.
    5 points
  49. When you see the way they are pissing away all the Entain money it makes you sick to think what they will do when they get their wish and get to sell off Avondale. You have to admire Hokitika who were sensible enough to see what was coming and made a sensible decision.
    5 points