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I don't quite follow your logic. How is closing down three or four country tracks that are maintained by the locals with a lot of voluntary work and local sponsorship and moving their meetings to a central track, which then has to conduct say ten extra meetings, going to save the industry money in maintenance costs? I don't imagine Riccarton has the committee get out and paint the seats and mow the grass. They can't even get rid of their eyesore old stand. If a country track had an old stand like that a local farmer would turn up one day with his bulldozer. Compare Riccarton with Waimate. If I understand correctly the locals found $500,000 to replace their stand that got destroyed in a storm. Even rita and NZTR don't go so far as to claim the industry will save money in maintenance costs under the new regime. All they claim is that they will save owners money by not having to travel to country meetings, and the TAB will save money not having to service them. People also conveniently forget that probably $500,000 of local sponsorship will be lost to the industry per annum. Also remember that the only way some of the extra meeting sent to the big centres can be accomodated is by spending $30m or more on all weather tracks - bloody expensive way to save money.

If racing is to thrive it really needs the TAB to have its own voice. A radio station. My car is locked in Radio 4TAB in Qld. I’m listening to interviews, previews, racing - all the time. I can’t imagine a business like the TAB not having its own broadcasting/news/outlet.

The TAB is slowly succeeding in turning me off gambling..... website debacle, machines on course and at pubs not being fit for purpose, no newspaper coverage, fiasco of form guides being published etc. But the absence of trackside radio has become an annoyance. A few times in the last week I have gone to listen to a race while out and about in the car etc and then remembered. I do miss the Saturday morning 8am show which set up the thinking for the day (the TV offering is 24 hours old, pre scratchings and with variable track conditions often a joke ... as are the selections). Oncourse at Riccarton Saturday I spoke to several people who felt the same way. It just feels like they would prefer to shut up shop ........ (and please no responses saying I am old fashioned etc etc etc - I do 90% of my punting on the phone or computer, and it used to be at a significant level - yes I can source info online etc )

My 2nd bet was about 1967 at Feilding,Tramore,Danny Gower from Stratford trainer,paid 53 an 12 pound.A few races later,Aquarelle,Harold Webby trainer.Thought how easy was this new game.53 yrs later,wished I'd lost my 10 pound.But met some great people.

I still don't think that the powers that be get this. The evidence is global. It doesn't matter how many ways you take it but punters will still only lose pretty much the same amount. You can have more or less events, more bet types, lotto style bets, in play or in running bets, point of consumption taxes, whatever. You are only collecting the same punter losses in different ways and possibly at a greater cost.

Possibly planet reality. Why do you think those electronic books have never taken off? Its because, for many, it's far more relaxing turning pages in a book and writing notes all over the paper with a Biro.

Hi Guinness, the grandstand is not the best for getting around if disabled. However next time you are there and need any assistance give me a call on 027 225 5255. Cheers

Having clubs like Stratford etc is a huge asset to racing. They seem to be self sustainable and hopefully contribute to community welfare. Just where is the logic in deregistering them from racing?

My horses have raced at Ellerslie,Riccarton,Trentham,Awapuni,Ashburton,New Plymouth,Tauherenikau,Otaki,Te Rapa,Gisborne,Woodville,Hawera,Waipukurau,Wanganui,Feilding,Waverley,Wairoa,Blenheim and Hastings. My top 6 would be Tauherenikau,Gisborne,Waipukurau,Waverley,Wairoa,Blenheim with a special mention to Awapuni's specially dedicated all day access Wellfield Lodge/NZ Racing owners room for anyone who has a horse racing that day where you get a dedicated tote operator,free tea and coffee,subsidised bar and buffet meal,numerous leather couches,window leaners and stools,ample tables and chairs and plenty of TV's etc. This owners room should be replicated on all NZ race tracks.

So they obviously didnt try and re-register as Pharr Cough then...

As a owner I had 2 horses nominated one will get in but then when they split the 1400 they made a maiden 1400 and 2 open 1400. As a rating 67 we dont get in but all the maidens get a run. In other words 3 1400 are bring run and they make 2 of them maidens except for a 66 that gets in. They then put 6 on each ballot well that a waste of time to because you not going to get 6 scratching. The other thing that is frustrating is one of the horses had to trial because she has been off the track for 16monghs due to injury do this is the first meeting we could nominate for but there are horses that have already started given a 2and start. If they are going to restrict the trials then restrict the starts to give everyone a fair go. Waikato is the big horse population but instead of giving us an extra meeting now they give the CD one next week and ours is 2 weeks away at Counties. My trainer also had a horse nominated for its first start after winning a trial and that will miss out too. When are NZTR going to start looking at what races we need and using their initiative to cater for the horses. They need to step out of the past and into the future for the good of racing.

Done a bit of digging , Pharr Canal , out of mare called La Fontaine . La Fontaine (La Fonteine) is a County in Louisiana , in that County is a township called New Iberia where in 1872 Henry Newton Pharr was born . You've guessed it Henry Newton Pharr grew up to head the Louisiana -Rio Grande Canal Company . He built a canal near New Iberia called Pharr Canal where now it's pretty good for fishing by all accounts . Straight up legit name in honour of Mr Pharr .

'What he did for me was miles bigger than anything I was capable of dreaming of' Owner Stuart Graham pays tribute to his horse of a lifetime Intisaab Intisaab with Stuart Graham (second right) after success in the Tote Scurry Handicap at the Curragh in 2018 Patrick McCann 1 of 1 By Stuart RileyUPDATED 5:34PM, JUN 29 2020 To most the news of Intisaab's retirement will result in little more than a nostalgic shrug, another high-class sprint handicapper you have almost certainly backed at some point in his 70-race career who will never go backed again. But Stuart Graham is not most people. He is Intisaab's owner, and the news his admirable nine-year-old had picked up a sesamoid injury that has put an end to his racing career had him in tears. It is not just that Intisaab is the first horse Graham ever owned, or that he was very good – an 11-time winner who reached a rating of 109 at his peak – but because Intisaab has taken him places beyond his wildest dreams. Graham lives in Immingham, a small industrial town in north-east Lincolnshire, in a house whose value would have to be multiplied several times to match the £433,073 Intisaab has amassed in win and place prize-money. A chance job on an oil rig off the Shetlands, on what he describes as "daft money", meant the mechanical fitter could afford to take a chance on the 18,000gns purchase. Intisaab (leading); won 11 races and £433,073 in prize-money Martin Lynch Graham got him from the horses-in-training sale at the end of his three-year-old season from Shadwell and Dermot Weld and knew anything more than one losing season would mean he had to sell. Six years later the pair are still together. "I've not been able to tell anyone yet, I just don't know how to – I've been quite upset," he explains. "You're upset he's injured as you care about him as an individual, but it's also the memories and the good times that you think you're never going to have again. "I thought I'd have him for a year. You don't expect to make money, and in the first year he ran six times and won twice. I was in the Shetlands for his first win, but for the second I was going to Doncaster for a mate's 40th and I said to Dave [O'Meara, trainer], 'Can we run him?' "There was a lady riders' race and there was a lass in the yard called Becky Heptonstall who claimed 7lb off him. I'm not even sure if she'd ever ridden a winner, but they went and won. That was an amazing day. Then he picked up an injury and I thought that might be it. "His first two runs back were poor and I said to Dave, 'If this is going to be it can we just have a proper day out with him?' So we went all the way down to Ascot and we were in the last race of the day. They fed us and it was just an incredible day – and then he came second. "They took us for champagne and we didn't come out for two and a half hours, they said they get given x amount of bottles per meeting and most of the owners hadn't come in that day so we could have as much as we liked. It was unreal. I have a 60-inch canvas on my wall of that day alone, we thought it'd be the pinnacle of our lives at that stage." It wasn't. Intisaab was rated 78 that day. Two wins at Ayr and a Coral Sprint Trophy later he ended the year rated 105. Stuart Graham: Immingham home is a shrine to his beloved Intisaab "That was a funny day," Graham, 45, says of his win at York. "I did a survival-of-the-fittest race in Nottingham with my lad, who was 17 at the time, they'd had us swimming about in the River Trent, and then we jumped straight in the car up to York. We changed in the car park, my 15-year-old Lexus next to all those posh cars, as the two of us tried to look presentable. "At the owners' enclosure they took one look at us, still sweaty and dirty, and they weren't going to let us in until we showed them our badges. Half an hour later he'd won and everyone was taking our photo. It was surreal, we carried on all day." Graham, whose living room is a shrine to the horse, could entertain you with stories of the places Intisaab has got him into for hours, whether it is the Aga Khan's box at the Curragh or business class flights to Qatar, but his favourite memory of all was when he finished one place outside the money in the July Cup Harry Angel won from Limato, Brando and Caravaggio. "The memory that will stick with me forever was the July Cup, and he didn't even win any prize-money," he says. "That's not a place your average youth-turned-knobhead from Immingham should be frequenting, let alone stood in the parade ring before one of the biggest races of the year. "I've never seen so many people. To see his board in the Champions Series presentation, to this day the experience is one of the greatest days of my life. At the furlong point I dared to dream he could do it, which is insane. "He was beaten only four lengths by Harry Angel, giving him 6lb. I look back at that piece of form and think it's unreal. It was an unbelievable day to be involved with, we went out in Newmarket afterwards and had an absolute ball – we celebrated like we'd won, I didn't even get to bed that night." Part of the reason Graham loves Intisaab so much is how he has broadened his horizons and taught him to dream bigger. "People say you've lived the dream but I've done so much more than that. The dream, the ultimate hope and the reason I went for a six-furlong horse was to have a runner in the Great St Wilfrid," he says. "What he did for me was miles bigger than anything I was capable of dreaming of. I would never even consider those things were possible. I just want to thank Dave and Jason [Kelly, O'Meara's assistant] for being bloody brilliant at picking horses – they deserve so much credit." Intisaab was second in a Great St Wilfrid, and the man who still has the Union Jack rug he wore when winning in Qatar framed on the wall's only comment is "he didn't half finish quickly that day", is testament to how Intisaab shattered the ceiling of his expectations. Intisaab (cheekpieces, right) finishes second in the 2016 Great St Wilfrid Handicap, fulfilling Graham's dream to have a runner in the race The Intisaab chapter may be closed – he will spend his retirement with Danielle, who has looked after him for the last four years, with regular visits from Graham – but he was such a money-spinner for Graham he also covered the cost of the attempt at a sequel. How long that runs is down to Maharg's Princess. "There's not a huge amount left as there have been five years of training fees and I've bought another horse with those proceeds, but I've never had to dip into my pocket – which is just as well because I couldn't afford to do that," he says. "He's funded himself and it's been so much fun, so this week has been heartbreaking. "It would be a shame to never be involved again but Intisaab has been retired and the filly we bought, who turned out to be Night Of Thunder's very first foal on the ground, ran a great race on debut. We expected a huge amount at Thirsk but she's picked up an injury too, it's just a little niggle but it will set her back a month or so – we hope she'll be out at the backend of the year." To see Intisaab's retirement from Graham's perspective makes the tears all the more understandable. This was not just an owner's horse of a lifetime, but a horse who for six years changed his owner's life.

It's quite clear they need to come up with a 2nd tier of racing, whether that's for less prize money or whatever it's absolutely imperative there are enough races for horses to run in. I don't know why they don't identify these deficiencies in their plans and do something about it, there is just nothing no initiative ,no industry planning or surveying the current state the July fields are in is evidence of this. I have absolutely no faith in NZTR to come up with anything of note to rectify these situations either, believe me they haven't got a clue. Not only that why aren't we hearing from some of these well paid racing club CEOs in identifying these situations? Too many have taken the proverbial for too long and need to step up or step out.

It's all well and good reducing the number of races but there has to be common sense applied as to where and how . In the CD between 31/7 till 25/10 a period of 13 weeks they have programmed , provisionally , 14 meetings , with 8 races programmed for each meeting . This is a reduction from 22 meetings for the same period last season , so a loss of 8 meetings over 13 weeks . Now for me this is over kill for one district . We are already over stocked on a reduced July calender , as shown by the number of horses missing a start over the first 3 meetings run . Wait till spring arrives and all the spring 3yo's and lightly tried mdns and those that wanting better surfaces start appearing , along with the big northern stables bringing down their younger horses . Where are the races for them going to be . 3 of the 14 meetings are H Bay premier days , so i wouldn't expect a raft of mdn and lower grade races being run , also 1 day is guineas at Wang and 1 day is Breeders day at Hawera . So if we take those 5 meetings along with the 5 during August , which is still winter racing , that is 10 meetings out of the 14 , leaving 4 meetings over 8 weeks for the influx of young horses along with all the lower grade 65s , and 70s , that aren't up to premier grade , to find opportunities . Something has to give , i'm sure on the days left they will add races , but surely 1 raceday a week for 3 months is not sufficient for the CD . Will they add meetings or will they stubbornly stick to what they have put forward , it will be interesting . It's all well trying to reduce costs but if they don't i think there could be a few upset owners over the first 3 months of the season .

Not if they aren't covering costs. I fear they have taken away alot of the races/meetings that generated revenue at little cost, but are too stupid to see that.

Forget what the stake is , size of stake doesn't determine group status , quality does , and simply put we don't have the quality regularly racing here to say any of or G1 races stand up to international quality , bar the derby , and even then as with this years edition it can be suspect . The only people benefiting from and pushing for the maintaining of our G1 races are the big studs . Our black type races from listed thru to G1 need to be completely overhauled , as does all of the NZ racing structure . Start cutting our cloth to fit .

I've always maintained that if you can win a $50k race, you have enough in the tin to go and have a crack at good money over the ditch. But don't assume that it will be easy. Leggy is quite correct. For far too long, our 'elite' races have been staked at a level way out of all proportion to the revenue earned on those races, and NZTR have been complicit in this. What would be a bigger insult is if the lower-rated horses are obliged to run for 5k to maintain even the 100k grp stakes. That would cause a huge drop-off in ownership. Most of those horses will not be heading to Aus, but to other pursuits - or the doggers. Destabilise the bottom of the pyramid at your peril. If achoolboy and club/provincial rugby struggle, we will very soon have fewer players for the franchises or All Blacks. Simple really.

RITA/TAB think their future revenue is in the hands of device holding “elite” punters who bet in four figure amounts. These type of punters have a short shelf life. Meantime they have thrown long time punters under the bus. Pity they don’t conduct TAB and on course surveys to find out what punters really want.

We would like to invite you to join us to celebrate our “Dunstan Horsefeeds Return to Racing” race meeting this coming Saturday 20th June and support your horse(s) in action back at the races! Further to our recent email to members, we have had a number of enquiries regarding our hospitality packages available for you on the day. To make this viable, we will need a minimum of 50 confirmed guests to attend, hence we are sending out this letter to see what interest there may be. Cost for the function, which would be held in the Sponsors Lounge will be $35.00 (GST inclusive) per person. The Return to Racing Function includes- Reserved seating in the Sponsors Lounge A light buffet-style luncheon Buffet dessert Race book Members Beverage prices for the day … And of course our “world famous” Counties friendly hospitality! If you would like anymore information or to join us on the day in the Sponsors Lounge please contact with Fleur; fleur@pukekohepark.co.nz or 027 239 2082 Depending on the interest, a final decision will be made Midday Wednesday 17th June 2020. All bookings will be advised. We trust you will enjoy the Pukekohe Park hospitality and would like to thank you for your support of this meeting. Kind regards, Pukekohe Park www.PukekohePark.co.nz 222-250 Manukau Road, Pukekohe 09 238 8049

Those smaller clubs used to waste far too much money encouraging owners and trainers. Much better their courses get sold up and the money given to the metropolitan clubs who know how to run a slick operation without encouraging excess drinking and fraternizing.

There is only a limited time frame for how long that model will survive , if that is their plan it is only a matter of time till it crumbles . The All Blacks are the best for a reason , NZ has the best club/provincial rugby structure in the world . So unless the wealthy owners of NZ racing are prepared to race all the horses required under that structure it is doomed to failure . There is a generation of owners/trainers propping up NZ racing at present , these are old time crusted on racing enthusiasts , but below that generation the next one is a lot lighter in numbers . Once that older generation move on to whatever i suspect there will be real issue with the lack of horses being raced by the " common man " as you say . The industry is in a now or never situation , it must make a concerted drive to maintain ownership numbers they presently have by ensuring they are being treated as important factors in the future of NZ racing , i.e. No 1 . All the while trying to bring new owners on board . The shambles with the number of horses missing a run at Te Rapa is definitely not showing owners they are important .

I think the way they have handled the return to racing so far is an indication of how out of touch and incompetent they are. No way in the world would you sell Avondale and hand $200m to this lot. They hardly look capable of organising the proverbial piss up in the brewery. None of this is all that hard really. It's just a matter of putting on a few race-meetings for the hundreds of horses out there that want to race. Clubs could almost organise it between themselves. There are much harder tasks ahead. This was an opportunity for current management to show they are up to the task, but they have hardly inspired any confidence so far.

Plus they have another meeting 14 days after then another 13 days later , meanwhile Otaki , Waverley and Woodville are sitting idle . Wanganui the same , has 2 more meetings inside the next 4 weeks . Both these tracks will be rooted within a month . I just don't get the logic at all , OK this decision was made with Covid in mind but things have changed quicker than expected . So why the can't they be pro active and show they can think on their feet . Brain dead if they don't . I'm sure other districts are the same , show some positive leadership and utilize other tracks .

Interesting story, I thought Glenda responded quite well to the interrogation questioning. I checked out the Facebook site to see what the responses would be and of course 99% are ban it now & the vast majority are women. I bet whilst they typed their abhorrence on Facebook they sipped away on there Latte, will happily pour low fat milk on there breakfast & have cheese and crackers mid arvo. There is nothing worse than a person with a hypocritical social conscience whom there virtuousness shows through a keyboard.

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I'm not so confident about them maintaining the 15k min , i think , hope , that they will at least stay with the 10k but have no confidence they will , or can . For me the 15k was a sweetner to get people to put their horses back into work after the lockdown , so that they had a reasonable number of horses to start back with . I also think they have been caught by the numbers wanting to race so quickly and they have failed the owners who cannot get a run because of that . There is a race a Wanganui where there are 8 emergencies , disgraceful , they could have split it and rewarded the owners who went to bat for the industry . Wait till Te Rapa noms , it's could be a shit fest , they should be programming another northern meeting this week or next to give everybody a run . Nothing has changed in regards their disrespect towards industry participants , and until this changes they are always going to struggle .

What budget do they have to work with? They were active on Instagram from what I saw which is a start. Get used to this Puha, this is the new norm for racing, Kiwis are just not interested in boring slow gambling. Lacking bookmakers, zero atmosphere & independent marketing, combined with Hobnobs & Wankers shunning new participants for yrs. Look at club memberships, they are stagnant, tells a story in itself. Grey suited over 65s white males totally dominate, hardly the demographic known for outside the box thinking. A sad reality of a sunset industry with a very limited lifespan in incredibly difficult times.

Just had an email from the printers saying the Raceform will be back

All I know is, Rita / Winnie / NZRB or whatever they f call themselves , DO NOT OWN THE LAND that the AVONDALE JC race on, so they can go fk themselves.

It's always going to be like that when a guy from Aus see it as his mission to shrink the industry here, why we needed someone imported from Aus. to do that I'll never know. What the likes of NZTR should be doing is assisting clubs where possible in reinvigorating their courses, training facilities etc instead of this dead end approach. They could put a set of metrics in place for these tracks to achieve over a given period of time and if they achieve them they can work with them in the industry, instead its so much easier to dump on them for the benefit of a few underachievers who for one reason or another are seen as strategic venues - It's a hopeless case really, of everything that worries me in this industry the thing that needs changing the most is the lack of vision and leadership.

I am on neither side in this debate around Avondale , never been there , never seen the amenities . But from everything i hear or read the track is fantastic , and i'm not scared to punt on the races there . My point is that the racing industry needs to stop worrying about how many people are on course , the situation we are in means it's all about growing revenue , that means giving the punter the best product we can . It doesn't matter if the dollar comes from an on course punter or some one at home or the TAB as long as we are getting every available dollar . On course patronage is up to individual clubs . It's now about giving the punter the best product and getting them to bet . Great racing surfaces are part of that great product . If Avondale has a great surface then utilize it . If Ellerslie want to continue down the path of selective choice of when they will race or not then give Avondale the lesser dates , they have had them for years , seem happy . If Avondale wasn't worth this estimated $200mil would this debate be taking place i think not . I've been to plenty of courses where the facilities are shite , and not just here , went to 2 meetings in Scotland last year where the facilities were very poor . Australia also . Racings life is on the line and it's now or never , it's all about revenue now and growing it . Saying that tho , bumped into an old timer i hadn't see for a few months this morning , he was , WAS , a $500+ punter on a Saturday at the local cossie TAB bar . No longer , cant get form , can't listen on the radio so has given up , how many others doing the same .

I appreciate your kind words , but i can assure you that i know of many more people and many of them of much higher intelligence that have all but given up saying anything . As i have said here on many occasions the powers that be don't want any help , they know it all . Plenty of people have offered opinion and suggestions which have drawn a blank for no other reason than they are considered small players of no consequence . Whilst the ones who hold some status or sway say nought , Why ? . If they came out and asked everybody for ideas to remedy some of our issues , we could end up with a dozen really good ideas that could be shaped and worked into realistic and achievable projects that could help turn this industry around . Will it happen ? i doubt it will , but i live in hope .

Russell Campbell started training in Rotorua before moving to Matamata. His first winner was Miss Hiawatha at Te Aroha on the 25/11/50. He also trained the very good mare Bellota who won the 1973 Ladies’ Mile, the 1974 South Auckland Breeders’ Plate and Rotorua Travelodge Stakes and the 1975 Foxbridge Plate and Avondale Cup. He also trained Neat who won five races at three and ran second to Young Ida in the 1972 Great Northern Oaks.

But NONE have gone yet...it seems its taking a long time to get their snouts out of the trough..all the minows were dealt to swiftly..why not the other end too???

Hi All, With the loss of The Box Seat, Matt Markham and i have taken the step to create a Harness Racing Show. Called Behind The Tapes it can be views on the Off n Racing Facebook page, or the Off n Racing Youtube account: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3f8EhS7Zn9QPOW9EzWmHWw Hope you enjoy Link for Episode Two is here: Video Times Below (Start) General News and Review (6.16) Over The Ditch with Brittany Graham (16.23) Junior Drivers Premiership (22.00) Canterbury Standing Starts (24.49) This Week's Selections Link for Episode One is here:

Waverley does a fantastic job , plenty to eat and drink in their owners room . Stratford at their new years eve meeting used to have free steak sarnies going most of the day for all the stable hands and trainers , looking after the workers at a busy time of year ..

Fantastic job Ponderosa8.Thank you

Heard it all before JA, you need to modernise their back office with a new computor system to promote Welly

Ellerslie should shift their jumps races to Te Aroha and Waikato and sell the hill for $50M , they then can increase their remaining Group 1 races to a million dollar stake

The problem is that elite punters were once small time punters who maybe got into it through channel surfing the radio dial or reading form in the herald or tuning into Action TV on free to view ...

Sad News broke today that highly respected Northern Trainer Steve Clark had passed away suddenly. Steve had a lifetime association in The Greyhound Code,harking back to Kumeu Days during the 1970's. After mixing his business career & greyhounds as hobby,The New Millennium saw Steve get serious & devote all his time to building up a strong Racing Team. From his Dairy Flat Kennel,alongside partner Kathy,he tasted Group One success for the first time in time honoured Waterloo Cup 2008 with Magic Spike,They also combined to win NZ Shootout in same year Steve enjoyed mass publicity due to deeds of star stayer Swift Fantasy,a dual Group One winner in Silver Collar 2010,and NZ Stayers Cup 2011. A rare Group One Quinella followed in 2012 NZ Derby,with a litter he bred and reared seeing Grizz and Peking Tom starring. Another home bred Blitzing Mayhem gave Steve his first NZ Cup victory in 2014,a celebration lasted long into the night next day at Sefton Arms.(thanks Steve) Recent years saw a change in property and downsizing his team,but another quality hound gave Steve his second NZ Cup on mantelpiece with Pinny Mack in 2019. Ironically,Pinny Mack was favourite today at Manukau In The Peter Earley Classic,his final race in a stellar broadcasting career.However,like Steve,his runners never made it to the start'. Thanks Steve for the many trips to the races,and thrills galore helping with your runners on the track. Condolences to your Daughters, Grandkids ,and Kathy.

I can't for the life of me understand any part of this decision along with others when they clearly have to build revenue , it's just not compatible with good business sense

Arron Cross - what a fricken plonker.....

Each to their own Barry. You seem to forget a lot of people don't like looking at their phone all day. No doubt you don't support having the racing on TV either.

Yes, you can print the racebook from the internet, but it costs a fortune in ink, it's a lot less convenient, and it doesn't have the same presence in the community as a book displayed on a service station or dairy shelf.

Coeur De Lion Iam on in last , Alan King gets these horses going well back on flat for these decent staying handicaps .Stays trip , residual fitness from jumps and has gone well off 93 mark now 91 .15s and 450 at moment .

Love my race book and will miss them.

Does this apply to a 330m dog race? That would be awesome Mikie

Ha no doubt they only surveyed the VIP punter's who only bet sport. No VIP punter who bet on racing and has any clues would make a negative comment such as that. The bottom line is that it will have an impact on racing turnover.