chiknsmack

Just bumping this thread up because this is good stuff and, with us being locked down and having no domestic product to bet on, there's a chance to make some money with these form guides.

This is really good stuff. Well done and thanks for sharing.

It's standard worldwide for returns from bonus bets to not include the stake. It's a "free bet" in that you put $30 on the Blues and none of your own money on Kolding but still had bets on both the Blues and Kolding. You got a bet on the Blues to make $X profit and, when that lost, the TAB let you have a bet on Kolding to win $Y profit at no further cost ("for free"). Now, if you win a free bet from a TAB promotion like the current Match Three, THAT bet will return the stakes as well as the profit. So you can put your $5 free bet on something at $1.02 and turn it into $5.10 cash you can withdraw. It's been like that for years with those bets and, intentional or not, it's generosity from the TAB that you'll struggle to find from any of the corps.

Xtravagant v2.0?

Seven or eight years back I was recording race replays from Manawatu off Freeview Trackside onto a thumb drive, editing them down into individual races, then manually adding the race results and videos to GData. I spoke to GData (Gunnar or Tony, can't remember) about getting results and GData ratings added automatically like they are for the UK & Ireland, and they said they needed a way to access the results data, ideally in a particular format, which required the help of the governing body. I put this to GRNZ (along with one of my many whinges about why they couldn't add race videos to the GRNZ site; my pet peeve at the time) and it was apparently getting passed along up the chain, but nothing ever came of it. There may be a small question around intellectual property rights; would GRNZ give rights to publish historical data to GData for free when RITA/NZRB are looking to charge overseas betting providers for the right to publish racefields? But I see them as different things; GData won't be making direct profit from publishing past results whereas bookies make direct profit from publishing future fields and taking bets on them. The difference between publishing past results and publishing future fields is a major one IMO (basically one has quite a bit of value we should be capturing and one doesn't), but it's not *quite* as simple as saying "This might boost overseas interest in domestic racing, which might boost turnover, which would help with stakes and the overall health of the industry, so we should just do it.". So it might take a couple of phone calls and a couple of weeks of thinking, but hopefully it happens sooner than later. I know that's not the point you were making, just thought I'd share my thoughts.

Hero - out of Domino - is the first horse that comes to mind when I think of frontrunners from when I was a kid.

I'm a fan of this line of thought (you don't sack someone after an expensive fuckup; you've just paid for them to learn an expensive lesson so you keep them around to use that knowledge you've paid for). Of course, you would've thought that after a similar incident at Avondale the lesson would've been learnt already; the fact that it wasn't means maybe Trev will never figure out to follow the bloody manual and not fuck it up again.

I'm pretty sure the charge is $2.15, not a percentage. In the last month or so I've deposited $200 and been charged $202.15 (as per my bank statement), then deposited $800 and been charged $802.15. It may have been a percentage a while ago when they first started accepting cc deposits, from memory. ----------- It would be possible for the clubs to offer rebates to oncourse punters. Have punters turn in all of their tickets at the end of the day and give them back 5% of their turnover as a TAB voucher. This would make up for the complaints about entry fees to the course; pay $20 to get in and don't bet, a day at the races costs you $20. Pay $20 to get in and turnover $400, get your entry fee back. Turnover $600 and you get a "free" beer or two too. Sure it makes sense for the TAB/NZRB/RITA/whoever to do it and to capture bets placed on course via accounts using location sharing with the punter's device (so you're not forcing punters to bet at the tote windows, which is a PITA), but given how well their past few IT projects have gone I'm not super confident they could manage it without blowing another $50m we don't have. It's not like we have an existing relationship with the Australian TAB who do the same thing and could offer them a couple mil to let us copy their homework.

Year – Ranking (2yo Earnings) – Ranking (2yo winners) – Ranking (2yo wins) 2015 - 1st – joint 2nd – joint 4th (Karaka Million winner) 2016 - 2nd - 1st – joint 1st (Karaka Million 2nd and 4th) 2017 - 5th - 1st – joint 4th (Karaka Million 4th and 7th) 2018 - 2nd - 1st - 1st (Karaka Million 4th/11th/14th) 2019 - 2nd - 1st - 1st (Karaka Million 3rd/ 5th/14th) So far this season he’s a mile ahead on everything. It helps that he’s had 12 runners while Sweynesse is second with six, and Power (another huge loss to the industry as far as 2yo sires are concerned) and Burgundy are on five. He has five of the top 17 in the Karaka Million 2yo Order of Entry this year. We were lucky to have him here for as long as we did given the success (and fee) he was getting up North. Well done to whoever was involved in getting him here, and in keeping him here at a relatively cheap fee.

Is your account so old that they don't have identity documents on file for you? If so, they can't tell that you're not a money launderer so under recently-enacted laws they have to be careful. Call/email helpdesk and get them to look at your account with respect to what you need to do to be able to deposit/withdraw online. They want your money, they want you betting with them (probably, unless you're too sharp for them. But they'll have told you that if it's the case so you wouldn't be posting here). So get in touch with them and they'll try to fix it.

The fact that he is leaving isn't a problem, it's a symptom of the problem. Increases in tax rates/new taxes (Point of Consumption tax, etc) are driving up the bookies' takeout rates. This is obviously a negative for punters (bookies keeping 5% of fixed odds turnover for themselves+taxes and paying out the rest is better for punters than them keeping 20% of turnover). The fact that someone as sharp as Dr Nick (who is probably much sharper than any of us) can't make ends meet with increased takeout means the rest of us must be starting to struggle too. It has been pointed out to me that us individual punters don't have the overheads that Dr Nick has (he has to pay his team of analysts and runners; the rest of us generally don't have a wage bill to cover) so we might not be completely fucked. We may have to get more selective with our bets and only bet where we have our bigger edges, probably reducing turnover in the process (or increasing bet size/risk to maintain turnover). ---------- I'm pretty sure he isn't a tote/rebate guy. I know he has deals with bookies where they let him on for a set amount and, in return, he shares his prices with them so they can finetune their markets.

Today: warm, dry, windy (even by Palmy standards) Tomorrow: warm, dry, windy Wednesday: warmer, dry, less windy Thursday: warmer, possible showers, less windy There will be plenty of drying over the next few days, and you don't want things firming up completely ahead of possible rain on the day. Though I'm personally pro-leaving it to Mother Nature, pro-firm tracks in summer, and happen to have a horse entered who wants it dry, so I wouldn't complain if they turned off the tap for the rest of the year.

Yes.

Jeez, you've dug deep to necro this thread meomy.