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This shows how backward we are , Best trial fields you would want to see at Matamata , but we can't , issues with providing the videos of some of the heats and delays with others , WTF , how hard can it be ??? !0 heats run but only 4 videos up . Trials in Aus are broadcast live and we can't even provide a video of a trial promptly . Sums us up . Maybe we're putting too much money into stakes and nothing into the IT side of the business .

You telling me my $5 a win doesn't count .

That is exactly the problem , if NZTR has to work with 50% of turnover then stakes will plummet and with that ownership , struggling trainers will go to the wall . Then we will be in a position where we will become a Hong Kong type industry . Big Owners , big trainers in and exclusive club .

Well said , the current funding model appears to coming from a substantial handout . There's a reason they don't publish turnovers any more , they would prove the discussion that turnover isn't sustaining current stake levels . Now they may well have a secret plan that none of us are privy to and it will prove all the doubters wrong , and I loke you bloody well hope they do prove us wrong . And to be honest if in another 3 1/2 years they stay on and stakes stay or improve then I honestly don't care how they are funding the bigger stakes . The thing they have to work on in coming years is increasing owner and horse numbers , something that at present appears to be stagnating .

Some of those early open trials and the 2yos are looking more interesting than a lot of the recent race days . Must watch viewing .

yep I would think so to , just to get a feel of the horses before the big money races .

Only ever known one person with the name Bernese , she worked at Evergreen Lodge when I was there in the early eighties , I have seen her name before and wondered if it was the same lady .

Bloody racehorses , it will be real shame if she can't race again .

You may well be right , I don't know of anyone that knows what Entains end game is , lots of speculation . They have unloaded a massive amount of money on us , can they sustain that ? I suspect they will be looking for some big payoff in return . What will our half look like ? I'm sure we will find out in time , I hope your confidence is fulfilled .

Eat while the food is on the table , your fast or your last .

From what I heard we were in deep poo poo before Entain came on board , and I believe if they do walk away we will be in a deep hole , may well need Peters to still be around . There may well be a hangover if they do walk away but what racing will look like eventually could be very scary . We can only hope that they stick around , because Kumara bags may be for G1s only .

Well as long as it's sound and fit I don't see the issue , can't see the point myself but I'm not paying the bills .

IMO opinion , when she races in 2 weeks and if she ends up a bit further back than she was yesterday and there is a similar pace I will bet anything whoever is riding her will be a damn site more pro active than yesterday , as in will be going well before the turn . She was there as a pipe opener for the next race , no trial going in and 60 kgs , was never going to be busted to win a 65k race , 500k up next time will definitely tell a different story . Smart people knew where to put their cash yesterday , Hello !

I'd go for general admission but would be scared I'd be on my own again .

I would assume so , maybe after todays turn out they may be wondering .

I don't know whether your serious or just cynical .

It's the millions Max , anything goes . It's like the slipper , so many horses get fried to get to it , and a lot don't come through it .

The thing is Alf , ageing people didn't just stop through lack of interest , the costs at every step of the way became astronomical and just became to uneconomic to even breed to race . Everybody was milking it except the people who were doing it for love .

Must be some special members eh!

Yeah been to Gizzy , just the once mind you , and went to a Wairoa 3 day meeting once . Hope to get up that way again . Never been to Inbredcargill , good Scottish city so will get there someday as well .

But apparently all is well .

Unlucky , I thought and expected that they would ride TotG quietly , big ask to kick a young horse filly forward after it's first race only 8 days previous , mentally would have been thinking about it a bit more , be interesting to see how she races next start . Well I'm sitting 3 from 4 , took a multi with Koheroa and Hakkinen , Hakkinen impresses me as a very nice horse in the making .

Well from talking about one that was always too short to how does Sought After drift to 4.6 , fantastic run last start , best form in the race , took 4s thinking that's got to be the limit but no . I don't get it .

Geez I don't know Pam , we went to Nelson a few years ago and done a road trip to Westport to catch up with an old Navy mate , it was like going to the wild west . Horrible drive to get there and back , and it felt like we were in a time warp . Not sure I want to repeat it , got out with my life last time but not so sure about the next .

This was always being treated as a trial , mug punters who backed her at that weight and distance . I've doubled up on Marsh's 2yo in the next .