THE TORCH

Very sad news. Jeez he could train a horse. Virtually unbeatable on his home track. A great racing family.

Yes. As soon as I posted I realised the 60's were a good ten years before Jock. Jock does like the geegee's though and his good mate Wayne Hodgson (fellow rep cricketer, golfer, and bowler) used to own a good one in Italian Saint.

Jock Edwards?

Well said JMc. When I first arrived in Nelson I did what many people do and hunted out the local TAB and bar. Met a group of like minded guys and Shorty was one of them. Had his usual spot and a dry sense of humour. Pretty quiet guy but when he spoke you listened.

Agree with a lot of what you say. Tragic day thats for sure. Too raw to start pointing the blame but this will highlight our weaknesses. On a less serious note the coverage from NZ yesterday was weak and behind time. I watched TV1 for nearly two hours - learnt very little. Popped over to CNN and within a minute I had a wealth of new information. None of it sensationalised - just the facts. What our networks were trying to hide I do not know. Hiding information makes people uneasy and that leads to stress and rumours. I saw Dallow even laugh at one stage. He said a policeman was "happy" to use his gun at any moment! (he then retracted that comment). If theres a tougher city in the western world than Christchurch I'd be amazed. Time for Ardern to show something in her term and get tough. I cant see it though.

The drunk down at his local would still have more clues than you and NZTR combined.

Exactly. Theyre experts of the contradiction. Lets keep Awapuni, Otaki, and Te Rapa open - three courses that are battling with their current workload. What happens when they have to take on the fixtures from Hawera, Stratford, Thames, etc??!! Lunatics with power.

Have just heard there may be trouble on the horizon with regards to stake money. Apparently we could be going back to the meagre levels of not so long ago in the new season. Would be a ridiculous situation if true. I dont know of any racing organisation to return to stake levels of the past let alone in such quick time after the increases here. Makes a mockery of the $40 odd million spent on a new betting system (that never needed "fixing" - just more creativity and less greed). Perhaps the blame goes to the same morons who did the racing dates and have Wellington races 2 days after Otaki Would be interested if anyone has information regarding the future of stake money.

Really??!! Good God. Makes a mockery of "do you know how much work goes on behind the scenes before and after, all for free, and they have started a non profit foundation". Nice clash of theories.

A perfect post. Some have been in the game 5 minutes and want a handout. Says a lot about todays world.

Did they or did they not charge an admin fee on Karaka Millions night?????? If they did then it sort of makes a mockery of everything they are claiming.

He is the worst. Why the hell do clubs hire him????

LOL!!! Bloody iphone and blindness!!! Was supposed to read "stakes" Back to Specsavers I go!

At least its competitive racing unlike a lot of what we see around the country. Its the last day of the circuit and everyones trying to prune the snatch on offer. Some have travelled a loooong way and need to pay expenses for their ten days on the coast. Id say a few jocks were ordered to lead at all costs.

Lol!!!!! This TAB are a joke. How do morons out there defend them??? And Thad boasted that the silence was deafening. Mmmmmmm. Muppet.