Barry Lichter 103 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 https://www.lincolnfarms.co.nz/stories/rita-boss-30-of-tab-staff-must-go-to-make-leaner-more-efficient-business/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eljay 1,168 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 This includes radio & TV Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TurnyTom 631 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 Good start but until the nightmare of the wonderful new website and the annual payment removed it will be a hard road Put the TAB up for sale, as it is it will likely remain an insolvent machine for years to come. Time for hard decisions Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patiti 219 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 Barry Lichter now the media release person for the TAB. Why do they come out under Lincoln Farms? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baz (NZ) 1,318 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 This should of happened 20 years ago and should never be allowed to balloon out to these numbers again. I just hope the right staff are being axed and we're not left with the deadwood. All top brass staff in suits on $100,000+ salaries need to have their roles reviewed from top to bottom! RITA, RIU, TAB & NZTR. puha, nomates, TurnyTom and 1 other 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poundforpound 3,657 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 You do have to feel sorry for those who lose their jobs though.....they’ve got mortgages and kids too Pam Robson, Baz (NZ), Huey and 3 others 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripple alliance 509 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 Hardly a reason to celebrate , this represents proof of how much trouble the racing industry is in , sure costs are being cut but that probably just represents how far the racing industry has fallen . O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puha 2,159 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 If they can operate letting go 30 % of the staff does that prove they were well overstaffed or will the service deteriorate even further ? army and Baz (NZ) 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insider 2,027 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 22 minutes ago, poundforpound said: You do have to feel sorry for those who lose their jobs though.....they’ve got mortgages and kids too True, but anyone there with any brains should have been positioning themselves to move on. We could all see it coming. Why couldn't they? Maybe that is the answer to the problem. No one is a bigger socialist than me, but nor do I believe in sucking the trough dry and that's what so many there seem to have done. Good luck to them though, in these trying times. P.S. Covid-19 hasn't caused this. The problems have been going on for years. How could management, paid $600,000+ surrounded by people on $300,000+ allowed this? nomates, Baz (NZ), Black Kirrama and 3 others 3 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poundforpound 3,657 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, Insider said: True, but anyone there with any brains should have been positioning themselves to move on. We could all see it coming. Why couldn't they? Maybe that is the answer to the problem. No one is a bigger socialist than me, but nor do I believe in sucking the trough dry and that's what so many there seem to have done. Good luck to them though, in these trying times. P.S. Covid-19 hasn't caused this. The problems have been going on for years. How could management, paid $600,000+ surrounded by people on $300,000+ allowed this? Let me give you a clue Anyone left in charge of other people’s money ( read Labour or lefties ) will invariably keep spending the other people’s money until it runs out ..... there’s a life lesson right there .....if the TAB was listed on the NZX and accountable to shareholders, or if it had competition, this would almost certainly never have happened, but it wasn’t, and it has. You're seeing the exact same thing happen with our country Liz ... inefficiencies and left wing loonies on a drunken narcissistic spending spree that those of us who are productive tax generators will spend the next twenty years paying for Huey, Disillusioned, Littletramp and 7 others 7 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
We're Doomed 3,022 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 The amazing thing really is that revenue is only down 47% and customer numbers down about 35% despite no NZ racing to bet on and no international sport of any type. Sounds like everyone has discovered Aussie racing. It doesn't sound like they make any profit at all off NZ racing. Patiti 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nukkledragga 139 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 28 minutes ago, Insider said: True, but anyone there with any brains should have been positioning themselves to move on. We could all see it coming. Why couldn't they? Maybe that is the answer to the problem. No one is a bigger socialist than me, but nor do I believe in sucking the trough dry and that's what so many there seem to have done. Good luck to them though, in these trying times. P.S. Covid-19 hasn't caused this. The problems have been going on for years. How could management, paid $600,000+ surrounded by people on $300,000+ allowed this? It is so true that they should/ would have seen it coming and I have seen so many good workers jump ship at the merest hint of trouble , but when that trough is overflowing they arent looking for greener grass. Insider and Baz (NZ) 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poundforpound 3,657 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 33 minutes ago, Insider said: True, but anyone there with any brains should have been positioning themselves to move on. We could all see it coming. Why couldn't they? Maybe that is the answer to the problem. No one is a bigger socialist than me, but nor do I believe in sucking the trough dry and that's what so many there seem to have done. Good luck to them though, in these trying times. P.S. Covid-19 hasn't caused this. The problems have been going on for years. How could management, paid $600,000+ surrounded by people on $300,000+ allowed this? Let me give you a clue Anyone left in charge of other people’s money ( read Labour or lefties ) will invariably keep spending the other people’s money until it runs out ..... there’s a life lesson right there .....if the TAB was listed on the NZSX and accountable to shareholders, or if it had competition, this would almost certainly never have happened, but it wasn’t, and it has. You're seeing the exact same thing happen with our country Liz ... inefficiencies and left wing loonies on a drunken narcissistic spending spree that those of us who are productive tax generators will spend the next twenty years paying for Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripple alliance 509 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 35 minutes ago, poundforpound said: Let me give you a clue Anyone left in charge of other people’s money ( read Labour or lefties ) will invariably keep spending the other people’s money until it runs out ..... there’s a life lesson right there .....if the TAB was listed on the NZX and accountable to shareholders, or if it had competition, this would almost certainly never have happened, but it wasn’t, and it has. You're seeing the exact same thing happen with our country Liz ... inefficiencies and left wing loonies on a drunken narcissistic spending spree that those of us who are productive tax generators will spend the next twenty years paying for Prime example , Dalziel , former labour parliamentarian now Christchurch the mayor . Councillors have promised to scrutinise staff pay after it emerged more than a quarter of Christchurch City Council employees earn over $100,000 a year — leading to accusations that bureaucrats are fleecing ratepayers. The council’s payroll bill has spiralled in recent years, jumping from less than 25 per cent of operating costs in 2013 to almost 40 per cent at the end of the last financial year. The number with salaries above $100,000 has more than doubled, up from 248 seven years ago to 554 in 2020, a rise from 12.8 per cent of the total staff to 25.5 per cent. Midget, GOM, Baz (NZ) and 1 other 1 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insider 2,027 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 37 minutes ago, poundforpound said: Let me give you a clue Anyone left in charge of other people’s money ( read Labour or lefties ) will invariably keep spending the other people’s money until it runs out ..... there’s a life lesson right there .....if the TAB was listed on the NZX and accountable to shareholders, or if it had competition, this would almost certainly never have happened, but it wasn’t, and it has. You're seeing the exact same thing happen with our country Liz ... inefficiencies and left wing loonies on a drunken narcissistic spending spree that those of us who are productive tax generators will spend the next twenty years paying for You are probably right, in most of what you say. I can't agree with you 100% otherwise people will think that we are friends. LOL Baz (NZ) and rdytdy 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stables 577 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 44 minutes ago, poundforpound said: Let me give you a clue Anyone left in charge of other people’s money ( read Labour or lefties ) will invariably keep spending the other people’s money until it runs out ..... there’s a life lesson right there .....if the TAB was listed on the NZX and accountable to shareholders, or if it had competition, this would almost certainly never have happened, but it wasn’t, and it has. You're seeing the exact same thing happen with our country Liz ... inefficiencies and left wing loonies on a drunken narcissistic spending spree that those of us who are productive tax generators will spend the next twenty years paying for Exceded only by Simon's alternative proposals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nomates 1,209 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, puha said: If they can operate letting go 30 % of the staff does that prove they were well overstaffed or will the service deteriorate even further ? Can it get worse ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nomates 1,209 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 I think we have got lucky , if you can call it that , that covid came along , because without the excuse of covid i don't believe they would have had the courage or the character to act on the issues that are plaguing them . They would have continued on with the smoke and mirrors till the arse fell out or their contracts were up . Insider, We're Doomed, dock leaf and 4 others 3 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patiti 219 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 "Can it get worse?" With the same leaders of course it can. The same people who were prime movers behind the new platform probably remain. Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
We're Doomed 3,022 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Patiti said: "Can it get worse?" With the same leaders of course it can. The same people who were prime movers behind the new platform probably remain. The interesting thing will be whether it is upper management who go or the lower paid frontline staff. And if they just get rid of contractors like tote staff, cameramen etc they will have to re-employ them when things get going again anyhow. nomates, Baz (NZ) and dock leaf 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nukkledragga 139 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, poundforpound said: Let me give you a clue Anyone left in charge of other people’s money ( read Labour or lefties ) will invariably keep spending the other people’s money until it runs out ..... there’s a life lesson right there .....if the TAB was listed on the NZSX and accountable to shareholders, or if it had competition, this would almost certainly never have happened, but it wasn’t, and it has. You're seeing the exact same thing happen with our country Liz ... inefficiencies and left wing loonies on a drunken narcissistic spending spree that those of us who are productive tax generators will spend the next twenty years paying for The good workers will gravitate to good jobs with good employers , whether or not their jobs are on the line because the morale has been sucked out , inevitably the dregs and the sycophants are what you end up with , which makes the new org worse than what they started with before the cuts , more innefficient and they will not deliver any savings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike28 156 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Baz (NZ) said: This should of happened 20 years ago and should never be allowed to balloon out to these numbers again. I just hope the right staff are being axed and we're not left with the deadwood. All top brass staff in suits on $100,000+ salaries need to have their roles reviewed from top to bottom! RITA, RIU, TAB & NZTR. Deadwood thats the only kind isnt it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pam Robson 951 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 10 hours ago, We're Doomed said: The amazing thing really is that revenue is only down 47% and customer numbers down about 35% despite no NZ racing to bet on and no international sport of any type. Sounds like everyone has discovered Aussie racing. It doesn't sound like they make any profit at all off NZ racing. They don't. That is why, without the extra income streams from overseas racing/sports/pokies, we're stuffed. And, even if cap-in-hand to Govt produces a bailout [ on top of what we already receive ] , unless there is radical restructuring we'll be back with the hand out again sooner or later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poundforpound 3,657 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 Here’s the most disturbing statement from Dean McKenzie “The reality is the TAB will need to be a leaner, more efficient business with fewer roles, and focused on driving our core wagering and gaming business. That statement makes it absolutely clear that the list cost, highly profitable, pokie side of their business is a priority. If ever you needed or wanted a reason to turn your back on the industry it’s right there, the filthy exploitative pokies. Where’s the morality, where’s the sense of decency, where’s the integrity ? When your focus is on the exploitation of vulnerable people, when your target has collateral damage to kids who cannot fend for themselves, then your business model is worthy of nothing but contempt. The day this country bans pokies ( and smoking ) will be the day we can proudly proclaim that we’re world leaders who genuinely care about the less fortunate and most vulnerable members of society...in the interim....we’re no better than those who trade in the currency of any addictive substances at the expense of the pathologically addicted. dock leaf, Leggy, Littletramp and 4 others 4 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poundforpound 3,657 Report post Posted May 6, 2020 Just now, poundforpound said: Here’s the most disturbing statement from Dean McKenzie “The reality is the TAB will need to be a leaner, more efficient business with fewer roles, and focused on driving our core wagering and gaming business. That statement makes it absolutely clear that the low cost, highly profitable ( over 20 million a year ), pokie side of their business is a priority. If ever you needed or wanted a reason to turn your back on the industry it’s right there, the filthy exploitative pokies. Where’s the morality, where’s the sense of decency, where’s the integrity ? When your focus is on the exploitation of vulnerable people, when your target has collateral damage to kids who cannot fend for themselves, then your business model is worthy of nothing but contempt. The day this country bans pokies ( and smoking ) will be the day we can proudly proclaim that we’re world leaders who genuinely care about the less fortunate and most vulnerable members of society...in the interim....we’re no better than those who trade in the currency of any addictive substances at the expense of the pathologically addicted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites