shaneMcAlister

You can back the NZ Warriors Women at $15 to win the comp with TAB. If you had an OZ TAB account you could get $26 or a bet365 $34.... Admittingly. the TAB market book is a fair percentage, probably better than others. However because its NZ the NZ team will understandably be shorter.....so this is another downside of one country monopoly.

Photo from outside NZ tab today showing TAB takings with introduction of geo blocking

Bet365 odds supplied by Aussie cousin. An all up place bet would be close to twice the return.

I would love to know the effect......but will not hold my breath. Blocked from Bet365 racing and sport but still could use their casino (I don't). I am not sure their robust testing would have differentiated between what people spent on racing, sport and casino.

Let's not overstate the NZ racing funding...... 2024, New Zealand First got $758,773.91 in donations as well as a $119,000 loan from Dot Jones, the partner of minister Shane Jones and a party board member. The loan is noted with a repayment date of December 20 this year. NZ First’s largest donation of $84,680 came from Melrose Private Capital. Its website describes it as an “investment vehicle for Wayne and Rosemary Coffey of Wellington”. Some of its MPs also donated.

Maths checked. What has GST and VAT got to do with this?. I am happy to be corrected.

Top 3 place comparison of todays racing $1 all up.

Maybe he has a couple of horses in training. There is more than one way to contribute to the industry.....

Where they rob is on place bet odds. Always a couple of points lower on all horses. An all up place bet on favourites in Rosehill tomorrow returns $420 bet 365 and only $151 nz tab. That's massive. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 All up BET 365 2.50 1.80 1.80 1.70 2.05 1.60 1.60 1.90 1.75 1.75 420.49 TAB 2.40 1.65 1.55 1.55 1.85 1.45 1.50 1.65 1.60 1.50 151.59

I am against it for the following reasons: Yes you can't back with offshore bookies when in OZ, but they have 124 online bookmakers!!! We have one. Monopolies never work, they get lazy. Lots of people back with the TAB first, but to get some extra on they will use offshore bookmakers. Some in the industry that are very for ban this are the same people that can't wait to sell or race horses offshore. Would our industry, and therefore betting product not be better if they had to keep their horses in NZ?

Betcha gets the promotions to drive customers there, so they can talk about its growth. Any increasd turnover in betcha is a cannibalisation of turnover in the TAB. Betcha promotions could have been done in the TAB site. Infact, they could have just rebranded that site. All odds are identical on both sites and it is simply double handling of the same stuff.

My wife and I have decided we don’t want children either. It will be a tough conversation but we will tell them tonight.

Tomorrow at Tauranga race 7 no 10. I'll Hava Semillon I used to think Pistol Knight (pissed all night) was a clever name.

With trainer and jockey taking 15%, I don't understand why Raptors leave 35% behind. Another opportunity is to charge $10 a month admin fee on top of the bill.

I think Te Akau are very professional with full disclosure in their agreements. However I do not think this applies to all syndicators. I think NZTR should be doing more so that all syndicators have to disclose the same data on a easy to read form so that investors know clearly what they are signing up to.

She was brought with potential upside left as a racehorse. This would have been included in her cost. Since she has not realised that racecourse potential (lots don't) then she appears to just have residual value left. Won group 2's in NZ and placed in group 3s in oz. Ignoring the $170K karaka millions, her prize money is about AUD$300K. So that would be a rough guide of her value. At $300K she has more upside or chance to get lucky as a mare than she would as a gelding....... Disclaimer: Now I would not give $300K for her (I don't have that either).

While I agree it's your money and you can spend as you please, I also think there should always be some protection mechanism for consumers. Like loans (especially pay day loans etc). Loans must spell out the total interest been paid over the term of the loan. Not leave it to you to calculate. After that then buyer beware and go for it if this is the model you desire. Zormella looked smart.

I think Avondale days are over. Not needed now Ellerslie can handle numerous race meetings. I hope Avondale joins ATR, as I have much more comfort that ATR could look after their resources/funds than NZTR. Just a thought from me. For what it's worth I think all social media/chat should be done with a real name. Make people's think about what they post and not be brave behind walls. If someone wants to post about confidential or privileged information than anonymous is acceptable.

This won't be happening anytime soon..... "The consumption of methamphetamine in New Zealand more than doubled in the second half of 2024 to the highest levels yet recorded, according to new drug testing data obtained by the Herald. Wastewater drug testing has been used to monitor the consumption of illegal drugs since late 2018" NZ Herald 2 March 2025

If any people should understand the need for immigration it should be the racing industry. Without the Indian's in racing we would not have enough staff.

They wander the streets/ malls aimlessly to fixated to their friggin phones and have one of the highest rates of corruption sadly. Remember how they went from being Qualified Security Guards at The World Cup Cricket to Taxi Drivers to Uber Drivers to experts in IT and look how much all those projects have cost the country. They also are known to hot bed and live in overcrowded conditions. How has this site moved to this level……

What does “poor quality people” mean……?!?!

Has that thread been removed?