Blue 1,099 Report post Posted April 8 12 hours ago, TurnyTom said: Putting it in perspective, Flemington has 9 full time Gardner’s tending the roses, flower beds and lawn and minor maintenance. Plus they have a head track specialist with 8 staff all attending the surface the horses race on. And that’s why HQ in MLB is a superb track and always will be, the investment is there. They have the investment and goodwill, it's the knowledge and expertise that's in question. We'll certainly never see racing on a 'hard and fast' surface again, or two year olds who have twelve or fifteen races in their first season but that was then and this is now and as previously noted, the track is one aspect, the other is the marketing side to generate interest and attendance. TurnyTom 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,544 Report post Posted April 8 Agree Blue The biggest issue is getting folk on course, without BGP the numbers would be thin Our DNA not like Aussies at all, even the young ones over their flock to the races Our stupid attempt to “corporatise” racing was a monstrous fail and those that left, like me, ain’t returning …. Big big issues ahead THE TORCH, Pam Robson, Alf Riston and 6 others 8 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pak Star 716 Report post Posted April 9 Will do my bit to help. Told the wife I would take the kids to Pitch and Putt tomorrow. Little do they know, we might be popping over the other side of the rail for lunch Memphis3, Houlahan's Dream and Aaron The Anchor 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,854 Report post Posted April 10 More problems it seems….. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,979 Report post Posted April 10 And how many million was spent on it???LOL ...ABANDONED 55 million $$$$$ white elephant. Ragamuffin and THE TORCH 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edor 67 Report post Posted April 10 irrigated last night scooby3051, Ragamuffin and Pam Robson 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pak Star 716 Report post Posted April 10 Oh dear... Was it related to the injury Lahood suffered after race 1? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,979 Report post Posted April 10 Just now, Pak Star said: Oh dear... Was it related to the injury Lahood suffered after race 1? No he dislocated his shoulder so nothing to do with the abandonment. Pak Star 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,015 Report post Posted April 10 $55 million spent on the Ellerslie track "upgrade". Horses in R3 slipping at the crossing and top of the straight. No horses trained at Ellerslie these days so having problems with the crossing is beyond belief. Obviously drainage problems at the top of the straight? THE TORCH 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,979 Report post Posted April 10 4 minutes ago, edor said: irrigated last night They just never learn and its the same thing over and over again, we are just a laughing stock. Ragamuffin 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richie 1,027 Report post Posted April 10 Good 4 and fine weather,run 3 races then abandoned doesnt make sense Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlahan's Dream 543 Report post Posted April 10 WHY would they irrigate last night? Been threatening rain all day, not sure if any has fallen there overnight etc but irrigating seems to be highly risky.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,979 Report post Posted April 10 8 minutes ago, gubellini said: $55 million spent on the Ellerslie track "upgrade". Horses in R3 slipping at the crossing and top of the straight. No horses trained at Ellerslie these days so having problems with the crossing is beyond belief. Obviously drainage problems at the top of the straight? And you know what we will accept it and say it needs to bed in...what a joke...heads should roll but you bet nothing happens a bullshit report will be commissioned and another load of waffle will be put out to placate everyone...but they can throw as much as they want at stakes but it fixes nothing our tracks not even the new whizzbang ones are not up to scratch ...and sorry but thats a fact....!!!!!!!! THE TORCH, canon47 and Ragamuffin 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,979 Report post Posted April 10 On 4/8/2024 at 10:20 AM, Chris Wood said: For gods Sake, horses break down on any track Scooby, you know that. Super Sid has gone around a few times, Pearl of Alsace might have felt the firm track, some do some don’t. Injuries happen, it’s called an attrition rate, if you read all stripes reports from all tracks things will be pretty similar. Give Ellerslie some time, I for one, along with a lot of others will race there when it is in use…. It’s Headquarters, and not the other Famous landmark at the Viaduct! So still no issues with the track...give me a break...it needs to be out in the open not swept under the rug...the sooner we face up to the issues openly and honestly the sooner they can get fixed....or am I missing something. Ragamuffin and Palliser 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contentious 616 Report post Posted April 10 Just another way to encourage people to not get involved in ownership! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,854 Report post Posted April 10 Get Michael Wood over from Randwick to show them how it should be done ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,979 Report post Posted April 10 Just now, Ohokaman said: Get Michael Wood over from Randwick to show them how it should be done ? Nah mate no help needed they have the experts doing it, just ask them, they know everything, no need for outside input. Insider, Pam Robson, Ragamuffin and 2 others 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pak Star 716 Report post Posted April 10 10 minutes ago, scooby3051 said: No he dislocated his shoulder so nothing to do with the abandonment. Ah ok, i just heard George say something had happened to him after the line and then I see they were inspecting the ground just past the post Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 3,632 Report post Posted April 10 All the money in the world poured into stakes do not cover up the major cracks we have in this industry . But it seems all you ever hear from the big names within the industry is how great things are and it's a great time to be involved . Why is it no one , and I mean no one , within the hierarchy or one of the big players have the character to come out and start being honest , because until that starts nothing is ever going to be solved . You know giving critique doesn't have to be a negative . It's fantastic the direction stakes are going but it breaks my heart that these real issues within our sport as Scooby says , just dealt with bullshit and waffle . No one ever says right enough is enough , we are going to deal with these issues once and for all . Or as I suspect , is everybody just too busy counting their dollars and don't want to rock the boat . Please someone stand up and show some leadership , no not some , how about true leadership . We're Doomed, Idolmite, Ragamuffin and 2 others 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snapper 25 Report post Posted April 10 If it is correct what Leggy has said that they chose to use their own grass instead of the Strathayr product MegAyr its hard to understand why. But don't worry sugar lips will spin a good story and everyone will believe him. Leggy, Hedley Jordan and dock leaf 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 3,632 Report post Posted April 10 4 minutes ago, Snapper said: If it is correct what Leggy has said that they chose to use their own grass instead of the Strathayr product MegAyr its hard to understand why. But don't worry sugar lips will spin a good story and everyone will believe him. Would love to know their reasoning for doing that , hopefully they get it right , but not a good look . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,979 Report post Posted April 10 8 minutes ago, nomates said: All the money in the world poured into stakes do not cover up the major cracks we have in this industry . But it seems all you ever hear from the big names within the industry is how great things are and it's a great time to be involved . Why is it no one , and I mean no one , within the hierarchy or one of the big players have the character to come out and start being honest , because until that starts nothing is ever going to be solved . You know giving critique doesn't have to be a negative . It's fantastic the direction stakes are going but it breaks my heart that these real issues within our sport as Scooby says , just dealt with bullshit and waffle . No one ever says right enough is enough , we are going to deal with these issues once and for all . Or as I suspect , is everybody just too busy counting their dollars and don't want to rock the boat . Please someone stand up and show some leadership , no not some , how about true leadership . I even had a run in with a trainer on here when I dared to say Ellerslie has issues...IT BLOODY WELL HAS...and the sooner we all as an industry face up to it the sooner it can be fixed...JMO. Insider, Pam Robson, Ragamuffin and 2 others 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pak Star 716 Report post Posted April 10 7 minutes ago, nomates said: Why is it no one , and I mean no one , within the hierarchy or one of the big players have the character to come out and start being honest , because until that starts nothing is ever going to be solved . You know giving critique doesn't have to be a negative . Probably end up fined like Wayne Walters was per the thread on here last week. Wonder how bad it was comparative to KM night. Guess its much easier to pull the pin on 2 Maidens, a R60 and an R65. THE TORCH, scooby3051, chiknsmack and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,015 Report post Posted April 10 scooby3051 maybe the Ellerslie club will dish out free fig jam sandwiches to the public at their next meeting. Idolmite, Gruff, Palliser and 4 others 3 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Feilding 293 Report post Posted April 10 Come in Winston Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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