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The Govt sure have - but they have absolutely nothing to do with running the event or regulating it etc. they support it with $ because it’s good for the economy (supposedly) in much the same way the Comm Games or Olympic Games receive funding. Why is there a Minister for Racing? Why is there a Racing Act? Is there a Rugby Act? -
Very sad and I hope Todd is well and fine Tough gig to knock over JA who has stolen a huge lead with her kindness platform which people want. Attacking style Todd was showing was always going to cost, we ain't in the Muldoon era. Irrelevant what JAs policies are as she wins on the be kind platform JA probably has 6 more years, possibly 9 if she wants it but I think the UN will grab her for a hugely significant world leading role within 5 years as she is a genuine international leader with the correct make up of people care -
And that heavy handed , hamfisted attitude is what has brought the industry to this current position . Some would say a very draconian attitude . -
First iv'e heard , if they have that was their tool to use , but that has never been raised as the reason for withdrawal of dates or wanting tracks to close . Perhaps that is because it might cause issues when some bigger clubs have issues with complying with those KPI's .
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Not saying the would even want to bother but they can still run a meeting as far as I can see. And offer betting via an overseas operator and contract the racefields and vision rights to them. They can advise the public of that arrangement, just the operator can't advertise here. The challenge might be as noted that NZTR would enact some draconian rule that would deregister/license trainers, jockeys, owners, horses etc. who participate. -
Well then lets try breeze ups. If NZB can do it then so can Stratford. Stratford would need an online TV deal and run breeze ups for online auction thus earning commission. The town get behind the scheme and welcome participants and buyers. A stumbling block could be pedigree catalogs which NZB have a monopoly over. However where there is a will there is a way -
They already have KPI's to meet in order to receive NZTR funding for racedays don't they?
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By crustyngrizzly · Posted
All politicians speak with a forked tongue making all parties undeserving of my vote. -
By tasman man 11 · Posted
I sense a bit of aggro there Mikie , us Tasman men should be more collaborative but NZ racing just ain't like that ! Even tho an enthusiastic , unlike you an Industry bigwig , I think I am doing my bit. I try to spread the love re NZ racing........pay my bills to a few trainers and syndicates , and regularly attend meetings.A small bettor ,since lockdown I have increased my bets by 5 x times as I aware betting on NZ TAB is the lifeblood of the Industry. I think I do my bit...more than the average NZ racing follower .....though I stopped the bleeding just last week on my 'breeding' career. My breeding and partner and I sold our mare for $600.......she was carrying a $15k service fee and had four winners from 4 foals at races. One other died so she bred no complete duds. And what are you doing ,other than posting aggressively on social media ? You and those close to you have been big players in Racing during the steep decline of the industry over the past 30 years.....I sit and watch the train wreck you have been an influence on.Like many you seem to long for the good old days , resistance to change........why encourage the like of Stratford and Avondale to go to court to thwart the Industry [again !! as they have done previous to resist change ] Methinks some racing people have been so close to the Industry they can't see the train wreck ! Its kinda sad ! With your experience you should start with a clean sheet on how the Industry should progress to give it some hope of survival.....accept change is necessary. Sadly your club is probably doomed as one that holds TAB meetings in your home town ! 100 years.....a good innings !And you had the Ranfurly Shield once ! -
You have to be a registered club and have a betting licence to run an equalisator meeting.
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Thats a bit tough on other politicians having no interest in Racing. It has been said that Oppositions Andrew Bayly and Ian McKelvie made a big input into the new Racing Bill to get it fit for purpose. Was cynically said probably more votes to do that than oppose it. Thats a bitt OTT as both have a good interest in Racing. But at pre Winston we have had some hopeless buggers and Bill English had a hatred of gambling, thus Racing and thats another reason that Winston would not promote English to another term. Its a time of change isn't it! -
By tasman man 11 · Posted
Sports like rugby ,in fact most sports in NZ come under a crown entity called Sport NZ which receives significant funding and there is a Minister of Sport.Currently he other things like Minister of Finance and deputy PM. You a bit tough on out Govt ,who have historically treated Racing as 'special' ,a unique part of NZ culture and community.Of course the tax take has had special interest to them ,along with the jobs and the international recognition. But not now.....other than Winston the current politicians care little about racing ,in fact some despise it.The racing industry blames the run of poor Ministers while these poor ministers are frankly amazed that racing has constantly shot itself in foot even though it has been in serious decline for well over 30 years. NZ racing has resisted change etc etc ....I guess when the Govt needed to bail us out for $72.5 mil recently , their position somewhat vindicated. Meanwhile Racing is still often in headlines for wrong reason , Inca simmers away , Messara report largely ignored , Clubs threaten to go to court [again] . Even in your beloved Aussie ,the government often is called in to bail out or boost the Industry which of course is massively bigger and more loved. Plus the grubby little fingers seemed to have handled Co-vid issue to many folks satisfaction . You will be pleased that your club has been prudent with its investments and club affairs .......if you contributed hugely to that ,well done. Ellerslie seemed to be able to progress in many areas when most others have faltered ! -
By Uriah Heap · Posted
No need to worry America. Dr Donald Trump MD is tweeting out blame from his surgery. That should fix your "worst in the world" stats. -
Well this is not going to happen , well done to all the trainers and owners that are supporting this meeting , enough nom's to run 10 races , good luck to all and have a great day . Must be having a great winter down there , track only H10 .
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Because for a very long time the only sport you could bet on was racing and the government loved to clip the ticket in the form of tax. If they could tax the major revenue sources of the other sports at the point of consumption, I believe they would. -
By Uriah Heap · Posted
Well i think you now vote for ACT, don't you Crusty. They're joined at the hip to National; would only ever support a National led Govt. Plus, by voting for them you register your protest at the inability of National party to get their shit togehter. -
This situation highlights the shitfest that the governing bodies of NZ racing have set in motion . From the first mention of track closures , thru to the Messara report , the underlying theme has been about reducing track numbers as we were seen as having too many , and i agree , but somewhere along the line someone upon high get the idea that these facilities actually belong to the industry as a whole . The idea being that the sale of said tracks would give a small pot of gold to the industry . But i keep asking why does the industry need this pot of gold , simply put , Serious Mismanagement . This pot of gold would fill the glaring hole in the industry funds that has pissed against the wall with as series of ill thought out and poorly managed ideas . The industry bodies have propagated the myth that the cost of maintaining all the tracks we have was a drain on the industry or put another way " sucking the industry dry " . I have yet to get a succinct and clear answer to the one question i and many others keep asking of the those that believe that the industry is being sucked dry , SHOW ME THE FIGURES ? . Even NZTR can produce any numbers to back their claim . They have now withdrawn dates to some clubs under the rouse of them being too expensive for owners to travel their horses to , yet we still have Ruakaka and Riverton with dates , go figure . We now have an industry that is at odds with itself , clubs having dates withdrawn for daring to stand their ground , others threatening legal action . Avondale back racing with 5 dates for next season by agreeing to a consultation process , but does anyone really believe they are going to relinquish their track and funds . My point is that this has all been poorly handled from racings management , they have for many years now treated lesser clubs with contempt , taking previously prime date and highly successful racedays , Stratford's New Years eve meeting was always a successful day for racing as a whole as well as the local community . Why would these lesser clubs ever feel like they belonged to one big happy industry , yet are now are be told for the betterment of their industry they should relinquish their assets . This all could have been managed a lot more professionally and still can . I favour all raceday venue tracks being given a set of KPI's that they must maintain to remain a viable . No if's or but's , no maybe's , you fail to fulfill the brief your gone . Obviously some of the KPI's would be the obvious such as track standard , turnovers and facilities . What all the KPI's would be is for others to decide , but , they must cover all tracks , no discrimination . My only worry there is , having seen the state of some tracks of our bigger clubs since resumption , would they be up to standard . I'm sure others have ideas that could solve these issues , but simply putting a gun to a clubs head isn't the solve . They say " for the betterment of the whole industry ", then the whole industry needs to be part of the solution and work together to find a solution . Not just bully , these clubs have a history that is part of our racing fabric and they should treated with such disdain . If MR B SAUNDRY isn't telling pork pies and that this is not about the "money " , then this should be easier to solve than the industry turning on each other .
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By Harry Newshound · Posted
Ken Church, a prominent national rider from the 1940s to the 1960s who transitioned to racetrack media work in Southern California, died July 13 at a hospital in Reno, Nevada, his daughter, Debbie Anderson, reported. He was 90. View the full article -
Thats what they told Kerry Packer and look what happened. One day cricket was born. If China was serious about horse racing they could purchase 100 horses have them trained and racing here at rebel meetings before export.
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