Thoroughbred Trainers Forum

Seems the only thing different is they are having to vertidrain before most meetings...that in itself seems very unusual, but lets see what comes out after this weekend's I said even though I and many have been critical the Industry needs it to be fixed.

Well he picked up $6.5k for 2nd and stays at 69 so from that point of view it was a successful day out.  Nothing to say he won’t target any 4 year old races as well although many of the famous 4 year old races are now just open class races.  

Looks a decent type and can run...fast !!!

You just wont give up knocking the Guy will you??? Starting to sound like you only joined here as you have some hidden agenda against him.

Zelia, by Fierce Impact out of the unraced mare Kakariko Village (Shooting To Win). Sold at the Sydney Inglis Weaning Sale for $11000. Got this info from ANZ Bloodstock News.

See Mr Hickey gets a mention. Laurie won the !981 Crisp Steeplechase , well waltzed in really .... and then ran 2nd to Kaimoto (Rick Hore-Lacy, trainer) in the Grand National a week or 2 later 

Which means: The NZ Racing Hall of Fame Board has recognized that many mainstream media journalists do not have an awareness of the NZ racing and breeding industries so at the 2014 Induction dinner it announced the establishment of the above award which has as its objective “to improve the awareness of mainstream media people in the NZ horse breeding and racing industries”.   Three practical components have been established for this award: 1. Attendance at selected race meetings at Ellerslie where the awardee would be the guest of the Auckland Racing Club; 2 Attendance as an observer at the Karaka Premier Yearling sales with Trackside and to also meet industry leaders at Karaka; and 3 As an observer with the Australian television crews when they visit Waikato and Auckland stud farms.   As noted above the award will provide the awardee with a practical exposure to the NZ racing and breeding industries which will enable them to present our industry in an informative manner during their future media career.

I think Luke has bigger fish to fry these days. https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/district-court-judges-appointed-9

Canterbury Man fyi Guy does have a background in racing. He was the NZ Racing Hall Of Fame 2018 Leishman Media Racing Awareness Awardee. 

Tend to agree. A while off the winners list to be aiming that high but he's got $2m plus in the bank and they can't take that away from him.

Yeh !!! Bring Back Steve Davis ! Bring Back Andre Neill ! Bring Back The Cuz ! Bring Back Scot Edgecumbe .... ok maybe not  Bring Back Dave MacDonald ! Bring Back Tony Lee !! Bring Back Rodney Lowry ! Bring Back Donna Beck ! Guy Heveldt or Andrew Gourdie ???  

OPINION  Some heat being generated over NZTR assessing future of jumps racing. There will be no intention to end it in near future as many flag wavers suggest. The October deadline is proof of that to me, a much longer one being likely if support to be withdrawn. Maybe an accelerated season and more moves away from Saturday feature tracks? There is no question that, Trackside cheerleaders apart, jumps racing has declined to where some action must be taken.  It's the old racing story of knocking leadership for lack of action then knock them again when they take it .The outcry over the Northerns faded to a whisper in a very short time considering even tho the character of those races has gone with the hill forever for traditionalists. Let's face it three stables,all Central based, win most of the major events. They are top horsemen in any sphere but can pick and choose a little in that situation.The  traditional wider stable interest (Browne's, Anderton's etc )have gone and not replaced now that time, money and  resources are  essential training measuring rods.They won't be back.  We still produce top horses but it  is easier  to acclaim champions when maximum and minimum weights are spead over only 6kg and with maiden and 1 win jumpers competing.The other side is that true champions are then being short changed on their achievements being made to look easy. Media talk,mostly in Central,is  about how spectacular it all is  but its hardly backed up by public interest and especially attendance. The crowd at Riccarton for the Grand National was the smallest I can remember. Once it had a bigger crowd than Cup Day. And it is poor Riccarton who now may face unique challenges with any changes. The South Island has long abandoned jumps racing for reasons above but  Riccarton has always relied on a rewarding August meeting to bolster the coffers. It was once dominated by jumps races over three days, now there's a handful over two.The Winter Cup is a great betting race and a great watch.It is the punting highlight of the meeting but  additional attractions  are not easy to find on the flat at that time of the southern season, and poly racing and betting is not cutting it. So what happens?  My guess is that industry leaders may want to move jumps racing away from major Saturday city tracks like Riccarton as  happened at Ellerslie -who had a better cover story . You can hardly blame them. A lot of Saturday turnover comes from Australia and odds-on shots in a 4-6000m jumps race have little appeal. In addition the public   don't really want to see horses maimed, exhausted or dying on a city track in the PC age of animal protection. In older days of rural support those sort of accidents were more acceptable as what happens to animals on farms. No more An sound argument in favour of retaining jumps racing is that  in large public flat stables where jumps riders or former ones are otherwise employed they are really appreciated.Fair enough. But those stables seem to have limited interest (read hardly any ) in actually sending out jumpers on raceday. Economics and resources 101.  Once most of the the big flat stables had jumpers and plenty of them with jumps riders attached Many of our horsemen are "imports" temporary and permanent which is a boon to trainers but another reflection of reality rather than a growth in public appeal. The dedication is still strong just not the growth and the two codes are now essentially separate. Loads of people still like watching the jumps races and they will. What they need to do is bet more on the outcome. That's the bottom line and my pick is it is well in the red compared to the use of financial resources because of the lack of true wider competition. Jumps fans can't expect to get a free ride. A number of blogs talking about Ireland and England are irrelevant. The infrastructure history there is a long and strong tradition  and standout races like the Grand National attract huge public interest-greater than most flat features. It also caters for the hunter type slower performer as opposed to former flat runners and on a variety of tracks, so its numbers hold up with opportunities especially as there is no flat racing on turf in winter as a rival. But even so the English industry is struggling,public support is down  and its currently dominated by Irish -trained horses and stables as a result. Modern owners,even wealthy ones, chafe at waiting five or six  years for a return.  The issues to overcome seem to be  1) the end of farmer/fan  supported horse paddocks in favour of economic return  over a long period, so increased costs for professional racing reducing owner and rural appeal 2) the reduction in number and size of fences which has removed the traditional slower hunter type from contention in favour of former/present  flat horses while also removing the "thrill" for those who accept animals being potentially injured. 3) the change in betting trends  especially among younger punters chiefly through preference for sports betting,quicker easier and less pain 4) the always present loss of top horsemen and horses to  Australia.  We are not going to overcome all of those,maybe none,so can only adapt as best we can. A five month season with limited open grade performers seems one aspect worthy of review.  The panickers needn't. It will survive.But the present form has not improved the situation and it has not earned the increased funding needed for further development. Hence the NZTR move. The fact it is necessary tells a good part of the story.

Colic is one of the worst for horses RIP you little star.

Isn't closer to the rail where the problems arose? Given recent rainfall It would surprise me a bit, at least for this meeting, though I shouldn't be surprised at anything coming from HQ of late.  

Very sad , had the look of a 3yo that would go on and be a contender .

We all embellish our moisture content , especially to the Mrs .

Gruff you are apply in logic to an illogical thinker , this bastard will prove to be crackers but you never know he may have helped Super Don , my thoughts are he is still going to win .

Terrible news out of the Waller camp. Lovely horse gone way too soon…RIP Champ…..😔 Three-time Group 1-winner Riff Rocket has died following complications relating to colic surgery. The Chris Waller-trained VRC Derby winner underwent surgery to address a complication with his bowel last week and while his initial recovery appeared promising sadly he was unable to overcome the persistent issues. In a statement, Chris Waller paid tribute to his star galloper. “Riff Rocket's career as a three-year-old was nothing short of remarkable,” Waller said. “He captured the Victorian Derby in 2023, followed by victories in the Rosehill Guineas and the Australian Derby in 2024, along with other prestigious wins. He was also honoured as the New South Wales Three-Year-Old of the Year for the 2023-24 racing season. “This is a heartbreaking loss not only for the Kepitis family, but also for the entire team at Chris Waller Racing. Riff Rocket will forever hold a special place in our hearts, remembered for the fighting spirit he displayed both on the racetrack and in his final days. “Our thoughts go out to all those who had the privilege of working with and supporting Riff Rocket throughout his career. He will be deeply missed, but his legacy will continue to inspire us all.” From his 12 career starts, Riff Rocket won seven times and was only out of the placings in two races during his short career.

Should get bigger fields at Oamaru. It opens it up to all the Timaru and Canterbury horses, while still being reasonably handy for Wingatui and Southland. Gee, aren't they lucky to still have Oamaru?