Ohokaman 5,850 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 A more negative interview regarding a stable horse would be hard to imagine....R3 Tauranga "Oh, she hasn't had a trial or done much, so she could be vulnerable, don't know how she will handle that track, can't believe she is that short...etc. etc..." Pop then says "Big warning from Murray Baker there punters...". Really helpful for increasing betting revenue that..... What happens....The filly bolts in, head on chest.... Memphis2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 Perhaps a touch busy worrying about Jon Snow after stable clients advised to get on big time at Rosehill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,850 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 Either way NM, it was pure BS......he is here not there...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Ohokaman said: A more negative interview regarding a stable horse would be hard to imagine....R3 Tauranga "Oh, she hasn't had a trial or done much, so she could be vulnerable, don't know how she will handle that track, can't believe she is that short...etc. etc..." Pop then says "Big warning from Murray Baker there punters...". Really helpful for increasing betting revenue that..... What happens....The filly bolts in, head on chest.... R3 LET ME ROAR $2.50FF This mare has a stack of ability as I have told you some time ago and is now unbeaten in four starts. She hasn’t raced for nearly a year and missed a trial with a mishap at the Rotorua trials but the stable will have her ready to rock and roll. She can make it five in a row. For multiples Triaction, Cinematic and Maholo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincoln blue 14 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 They dont Miss a gallop in that stable,They are always ready if good enough! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumpole 483 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 stop bagging Murray.. he is the best Bimbo, Turny and gubellini 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2Admin2 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 Geezus runpole have you been asleep? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
puha 2,177 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 Mr Baker never said she wasn't going to win but was surprised at the $2.50 on offer considering the setbacks the horse had encountered and her interrupted preparation including two missed trials .I thought he was being honest . Ethereal 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 With her ability, three quarters ready was more than enough to beat that field today. She was headlines in track work on both Tuesday and Thursday leading into today's race. Tuesday: LET ME ROAR, CAMINO ROCOSO and MONGOLIAN WOLF worked well at Cambridge this morning. Galloping on the plough, stable mates LET ME ROAR, CAMINO ROCOSO and MONGOLIAN WOLF all travelled nicely from the 1000m in 1:5.3, sprinting the last 600m in 37.2. Thursday: LET ME ROAR looks ready to maintain her perfect record when she resumes at Tauranga this weekend. Galloping on the plough, LET ME ROAR, unbeaten in four starts, shaded stable mate MONGOLIAN WOLF at the completion of 1000 in 1:09, sprinting the final 600 in 37.6. And further indication was given yesterday when Camino Rocoso won at Avondale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,850 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 Yes, helpful if you read it Ted.... We all know how good she is, but those comments certainly didn't help the punter. Anyone wanting to have a last minute lash on the race would probably have had second thoughts after hearing them. And would then be highly pissed off at the result... Interesting that the stable "rep" was interviewed after the race.......funny that..... Phantom and BackPoonDrinkGoon 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 Damned if you do and damned if you don't though O'man.. Some trainers have every horse winning everything except Lotto, others are more guarded and realistic. I'd prefer caution and moderation myself, particularly if it's backed up by some rational comment. Huey, puha, We're Doomed and 2 others 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,850 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 You are probably right Midge. I just thought comments like that do little for our credibility. Anyone watching for the first time might not have been too impressed... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotare_Hunter 748 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: You are probably right Midge. I just thought comments like that do little for our credibility. Anyone watching for the first time might not have been too impressed... Anybody watching for the umpteenth time would have to be wary of what Mr Baker says in the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbtab 95 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 Well i was going to have a good bet ,but did not after hearing his comments was not that happy afterwards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumpole 483 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 16 hours ago, 2Admin2 said: Geezus runpole have you been asleep? I sleep often but Murray Baker is the best I heard his comments. He was being honestand yet people on here are bagging him rdytdy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 Murray has always been conservative when discussing his horses. Has always been so and will continue to be so. You just had to factor in the class of this mare as evidenced by her impressive four prior wins, her trackwork reports during the week which was available both on the net and in print. Another pointer was that the big race of the day was the sponsored Windsor Park Stud Japan NZ International and what better way than to have a very good horse win in your colours on the day. $2.50FF was overs I thought and she proved in no uncertain manner that she was one of the bets of the day. Andrew Forsman had advised: Which was on the NZTR website similar concerns about missing that trial which is fair enough, giving punters that information and it can't have put many off as she came into $2.10FF from $2.50FF and paid the same on the tote so she was never a drifter. Time forces hand with quality mare 22 March 2017, 1:37 p.m. Let Me Roar will have to overcome a minor set-back in her lead-up preparation if she is to successfully defend her unbeaten record this weekend. “She went to the trials at Rotorua, but a horse went off in the barrier next to her and hit her in the eye,” said Andrew Forsman, who prepares the well-related mare with Murray Baker. Let Me Roar Photo: Race Images Palmerston North “Not having a trial after a long break isn’t ideal, but we need to get her rolling.” The exciting Cambridge mare will be ridden by Jason Waddell when she steps out at Tauranga on Saturday in the in the NZB Insurance Pearl Series Race. A half-sister by Rip Van Winkle to the ill-fated dual Group One winner Lion Tamer, Let Me Roar hasn’t raced since she was successful at Te Rapa last May. She had previously won on debut at Rotorua and subsequently posted consecutive victories at Pukekohe Park. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindsay carston 81 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 Murry Baker said what any trainer should have said under the circumstances.Had missed a couple of trials therefore behind in her prep.Hes not going to say "shes a home run" in case his caution was right and she got beaten.All he said was he was surprised at her divvy after so long off.Remember Dummy Myers and his interview,which I never saw,insured he would never be interviewed again.Andrew Foresman or murry are interviewed on the radio almost every Saturday morning and for mine that's going out of their way.Their loyalty is to their owners who pay the bills and not jo blog punters who winge when they miss out on a winner.They always I think give honest comments on their runners and if it was me getting bagged for telling the truth I would do a Dummy rdytdy, porky, Shad and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,977 Report post Posted March 25, 2017 50 minutes ago, dbtab said: Well i was going to have a good bet ,but did not after hearing his comments was not that happy afterwards So who does he answer to... He said honestly what he thought and just because you wanted to have a bet does not mean he is dishonest. rdytdy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim vince 985 Report post Posted March 26, 2017 if it hadn't of won u would have been congratulating him- the answer really is use your own judgement. remember u back a lot of losers that you are convinced are going to win- its racing. rdytdy and puha 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike28 182 Report post Posted March 26, 2017 if u read to much into such comments you have no idea about racing the 4 wins beforehand on all types of tracks and in good time was more than enough for me to back it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talk 308 Report post Posted March 26, 2017 I have said before that trainers have an obligation to the industry to give honest opinions to the media about the prospects of their runners. The Baker stable certainly does their fair share of interviews. I doubt they purposefully mislead. Even as an owner (of a small share) I have been in the position of being told my horse is racing instead of going to the trials - it duly won; and have also been told it was 'ready', only for it to trail the field home. Regards tony Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen 3,226 Report post Posted March 26, 2017 22 hours ago, Kotare_Hunter said: Anybody watching for the umpteenth time would have to be wary of what Mr Baker says in the future. Anybody watching for the umpteenth time must only be able to get 1 channel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumpole 483 Report post Posted March 26, 2017 14 hours ago, talk said: I have said before that trainers have an obligation to the industry to give honest opinions to the media about the prospects of their runners. The Baker stable certainly does their fair share of interviews. I doubt they purposefully mislead. Even as an owner (of a small share) I have been in the position of being told my horse is racing instead of going to the trials - it duly won; and have also been told it was 'ready', only for it to trail the field home. Regards tony Please show me he rule that says trainers have any obligation to the media. I disagree Trainers have an obligation to their owners not the media who stretch and twist the facts Dummy Myers made a statement and he has stuck to it. Good on him !. He will not talk on TV but he does talk to Dennis Ryan puha 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumpole 483 Report post Posted March 26, 2017 On 26/03/2017 at 10:36 AM, Kotare_Hunter said: Anybody watching for the umpteenth time would have to be wary of what Mr Baker says in the future. Rubbish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talk 308 Report post Posted March 27, 2017 1 hour ago, rumpole said: Please show me he rule that says trainers have any obligation to the media. I disagree Trainers have an obligation to their owners I did not say there was a rule Rumpole. All you need to do is look at other professional sports; the more successful the sport, the more eloquent and accessible are the competitors/administrators. Punters need all the information they can to feel confident and willing to bet. It is the punters that bet through the tab that fund the industry. Trainers may have an obligation to their owners, but they also have an obligation to the industry as a whole or it will not survive. Thankfully most of our trainers recognise that. Regards tony Patiti 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...