edor 67 Report post Posted September 17, 2023 what a spectacle today by far the best jumping course left We're Doomed 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,010 Report post Posted September 17, 2023 Only negative was Shaun Fanning being fined $4,000 for using his whip above the shoulders in the last part of the race. A manifestly severe sentence. Hope he appeals. A great ride on West Coast spoiled by over zealous stipendary stewards. Pak Star and Ragamuffin 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,973 Report post Posted September 17, 2023 38 minutes ago, edor said: what a spectacle today by far the best jumping course left In the north of the North. Trentham figure of 8 is special as is the Riccarton course with Cutt's Brush and Jumbo etc. Patiti, Baz (NZ), fermoy and 5 others 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,010 Report post Posted September 17, 2023 Te Aroha provide great jumping races. Hopefully they will race there next winter. fermoy and Baz (NZ) 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,096 Report post Posted September 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, gubellini said: Only negative was Shaun Fanning being fined $4,000 for using his whip above the shoulders in the last part of the race. A manifestly severe sentence. Hope he appeals. A great ride on West Coast spoiled by over zealous stipendary stewards. Why? Rules are rules. It's in line with the penalty guidelines and was a very bad look. It's the adjudicative committee that make the penalty decision not the stipes. In my view, the horse should lose the race to try and put an end to this sort of cruel behaviour. Nerula, KellyAnne and Ragamuffin 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,875 Report post Posted September 17, 2023 50 minutes ago, edor said: what a spectacle today by far the best jumping course left Te Rapa is an amazing track, seems to go around most weeks over the last year or so. Northern racing would have had to close down for this winter if they didn't have Te Rapa. If they had an award for track of the year each season I'm sure it would have gone to Te Rapa for the season just gone. Leggy, Pam Robson, Insider and 3 others 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,010 Report post Posted September 17, 2023 Leggy there were four stipendiary stewards at Te Rapa today- Messrs Jones (chair), Oatham, Dooley and Selvakumaran. Who comprised the adjudicative committee? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,096 Report post Posted September 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, gubellini said: Leggy there were four stipendiary stewards at Te Rapa today- Messrs Jones (chair), Oatham, Dooley and Selvakumaran. Who comprised the adjudicative committee? Sorry. Don't know. Last time he was charged for the same thing after the Wellington Steeplechase it was N Moffatt and N McCutcheon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,710 Report post Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Leggy said: Why? Rules are rules. It's in line with the penalty guidelines and was a very bad look. It's the adjudicative committee that make the penalty decision not the stipes. In my view, the horse should lose the race to try and put an end to this sort of cruel behaviour. While talking about whip use , and prior to me being aware of any sanction involving Fannin, the young lady's whip carriage ( I wouldn't say use)on Imprevu in the last 50 meters caught my eye. It appeared she had stopped actually using the whip but flicking the reins with her left hand while having the whip facing forward in that hand brought the whip very close? to the top of the horse's head. Maybe a warning or mentor education was in order.I'm not suggesting any ill-intent but a certain trans-Tasman jockey would have probably got 6 months.Thoughts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,010 Report post Posted September 17, 2023 Leggy perhaps someone who has a race book from Te Rapa today can advise us who were on the Adjudicative Commitee today. Penalty seems excessive in my opinion. Ragamuffin 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,096 Report post Posted September 17, 2023 4 hours ago, gubellini said: Leggy perhaps someone who has a race book from Te Rapa today can advise us who were on the Adjudicative Commitee today. Penalty seems excessive in my opinion. https://nztr.co.nz/sites/nztrindustry/files/2023-05/May22_WhipandCarelessRiding_Jumps-Highweight.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragamuffin 124 Report post Posted September 17, 2023 9 hours ago, edor said: what a spectacle today by far the best jumping course left Don't know about being the best course but the video coverage was spectacular. About time, shame it was spoilt by fine imposed. Maybe time to to stik whips where the sun don't shine & refuse to use the kash kow it's become. I recall yrs ago some called to refuse to use but few would stik together, typical kiwi. Watch the old Melbourne Cup wins & other big races, count how many times The pumper used his to get to the line. Too many uneducated do gooders & those trying to appease all those uneducated fools who've never probably ridden a nag let alone a racehorse gubellini 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue 1,099 Report post Posted September 17, 2023 Might be behind the eight ball but will this new surface at Ellerslie allow any jumps races or is that now completely finished there? Another thing that comes to mind, if it's going to be the all-weather surface it's purported to be, will it then make it unneccessary to travel all the way to Ruakaka for a good winter surface? Just wondering. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,875 Report post Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Blue said: Might be behind the eight ball but will this new surface at Ellerslie allow any jumps races or is that now completely finished there? Another thing that comes to mind, if it's going to be the all-weather surface it's purported to be, will it then make it unneccessary to travel all the way to Ruakaka for a good winter surface? Just wondering. Ellerslie has no interest in running jumps racing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,567 Report post Posted September 18, 2023 3 hours ago, We're Doomed said: Ellerslie has no interest in running jumps racing. Plus "The Hill" won't be there anymore, even if the new track surface was suitable to jumps racing. A big shame. Oh well, at least we've still got the spectacular Paeroa steeplechase course. Oh, that's right, that one has gone too. Te Aroha should be the place for "The Northerns" I think, once refurbished, although the steeplechase was a good watch at Te Rapa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjay 451 Report post Posted September 18, 2023 Riccarton, Jumbo and cutts are not the fences they were. Both used to be formidable jumps, but not now. Cutts had a slight dip on landing too. Iwas worried as a kid having to go over cutts in schooling a jumper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,096 Report post Posted September 18, 2023 20 hours ago, gubellini said: Leggy perhaps someone who has a race book from Te Rapa today can advise us who were on the Adjudicative Commitee today. Penalty seems excessive in my opinion. Adjudicators: Mr Adam Smith (Chair), G Jones https://racingintegrityboard.org.nz/decisions/waikato-tr-17-september-2023-r7-shaun-fannin/ Seems a generous penalty decision to me given the circumstances and they obviously are not severe enough to stop the behaviour. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissJools 509 Report post Posted September 18, 2023 7 hours ago, We're Doomed said: Ellerslie has no interest in running jumps racing. The strathayr turf isn't suitable for jumping which is why the jumps were removed and the Ellerslie hill was sold. The company that is putting in the strathayr turf has told Auckland Thoroughbred Racing that it isn't suitable for jumping. it's the same track that is at Moonee Valley. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,542 Report post Posted September 18, 2023 Thanks Miss J, I will ring Sweens and get the true oil. Sure he will know wph and scooby3051 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,567 Report post Posted September 18, 2023 37 minutes ago, MissJools said: The strathayr turf isn't suitable for jumping which is why the jumps were removed and the Ellerslie hill was sold. The company that is putting in the strathayr turf has told Auckland Thoroughbred Racing that it isn't suitable for jumping. it's the same track that is at Moonee Valley. As you would point out if and when somebody effectively reposted something you had ready posted; that information was already mentioned ^^^^up there^^^^ although it was is smaller writing than yours scooby3051, Pam Robson and wph 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wph 49 Report post Posted September 18, 2023 Watch out Idol.... You have a spelling mistake there mate. Don't want you getting detention Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,567 Report post Posted September 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, wph said: Watch out Idol.... You have a spelling mistake there mate. Don't want you getting detention I'm done for aren't I Pam Robson, TurnyTom, scooby3051 and 2 others 3 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_gee 417 Report post Posted September 19, 2023 talking to a lot of the jumps people and racing owners and trainers , they don't like it i am one rather keep jump's for te aroha Chestnut 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut 3,159 Report post Posted September 19, 2023 I see talk about Strathayr not being a jumps surface. Moonee Valley continued to host jumps racing for 15 plus years after changing to Strathayr. Finally moving the Hiskin in 2011'ish due to Victorian Racing changes in focus, nothing to do with the track .. why now is the surface not considered suitable for jumps? I have to admit... I'm not a fan of jumps races anymore, but I don't understand the logic of that statement. Pam Robson, chiknsmack and Leggy 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut 3,159 Report post Posted September 19, 2023 1 hour ago, mr_gee said: talking to a lot of the jumps people and racing owners and trainers , they don't like it i am one rather keep jump's for te aroha I've been to a jumps only day at TA and it was a very enjoyable day. I spent the day with Garrick.. G Unit to some who may remember him on here.. and I agree.. it is a good venue Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
