biff 2,158 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 Great piece of horsemanship from Trudy today, saw what was happening with the Kelly incident, steered her horse into the riderless to ease it away from trouble.....hats off to you, that was intuitive Trudy, you are indeed a Lady. Jabba2, Black Kirrama, Fartoomuch and 6 others 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,854 Report post Posted October 11, 2016 Diabolical riding from the two that caused the fall....Kelly was squeezed like a pip...had no hope. Let's hope she is ok.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen 3,226 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 looks to me like the one on Kelly's inside will get a decent holiday. Fartoomuch and mr dickson cider 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biff 2,158 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 17 minutes ago, von Smallhaussen said: looks to me like the one on Kelly's inside will get a decent holiday. Absolutely...! Fartoomuch 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant R 348 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 Great horseman ship from Trudy bloody holidays for a couple i think Fartoomuch and Belinda 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racing84 254 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 I see the horse who caused the problem (to my eye) finished 4th and still held its spot. Can you just flatten your opponents these days without threat of relegation / disqualification? If it had happened in the home straight it'd be goooorne. Should be the same early in the race. Belinda 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racing84 254 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 And I agree, great horsemanship (or horsewomanship?). But surely the race should have been called to a halt. There needs to be a better system / safety measures in place than hoping the jockeys hear the commentator. The siren system seems to work well in Harness racing albeit generally racing on smaller tracks. Today could have had a far worse outcome and the fact it didn't was good luck more than good management. integrity 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 Never underestimate the vision of experienced jockeys, they are very sensory acute and have a " feel " for everything going on around them, and they have to be because often their lives depend on it. They'd have noticed the situation developing after the post a long way out, and if you watch Trudy she's working out her options and the various scenarios about 100m out, once she knows she can't win ( love the way the little bastards put winning first then saving their arse second ). The poor kid who rode the horse that caused the problem, Jasmine Fawcett ? I thought she just froze and didn't have the inherent strength to drag Baboonski around the corner. I don't like to criticize these young kids because they are often fragile and can't cope with criticism, but you'd have to note that we've seen a bit of this sort of thing lately and it must be worrying the senior jocks when they don't know what these kids are going to do, and thus can't follow them or trust them to ride in what might be described as conventional fashion. kdt, Fartoomuch, Belinda and 2 others 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belinda 143 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 There is no way Baboonski should have been able to hold its placing. Earned money by eliminating another horse. At the trots, it would have been placed behind Kelly's horse, ie last gubellini 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWJR 17 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/racing/85253975/kelly-mcculloch-taken-to-hospital-following-nasty-fall-at-ruakaka I am curious, can jockeys hear the commentator? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, DWJR said: http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/racing/85253975/kelly-mcculloch-taken-to-hospital-following-nasty-fall-at-ruakaka I am curious, can jockeys hear the commentator? I never heard a commentator when riding,just impossible with all the noise going on in a race and sometimes i had selective hearing when a fellow rider would call out. SNR Belinda 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen 3,226 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 17 minutes ago, Midget said: I never heard a commentator when riding,just impossible with all the noise going on in a race and sometimes i had selective hearing when a fellow rider would call out. SNR yeah - but he could talk under water Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimbo 734 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Belinda said: There is no way Baboonski should have been able to hold its placing. Earned money by eliminating another horse. At the trots, it would have been placed behind Kelly's horse, ie last Yeah but it's not the trots so the same rules do not apply. elbow 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belinda 143 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 Stating the obvious Bimbo, of course its not the bloody trots but same rule should apply. Racing84 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,015 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 Belinda agree with you. Same rule should apply to both codes or at least current galloping situation should be reviewed. Belinda 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr dickson cider 104 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 There are a couple of riders, one in particular that should never be allowed on a horse on raceday again after that carnage. Trudy used her head at the finish and certainly saved more trouble. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 It will be mighty interesting to read the Stipes report after this incident. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,985 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Midget said: I never heard a commentator when riding,just impossible with all the noise going on in a race and sometimes i had selective hearing when a fellow rider would call out. SNR Yeah but you rode when there were thousands on course, all screaming for their horse. These days at a midweek meeting there are only the strappers and a quarter of the trainers and a few pensioners with hearing aids. Most of the owners are at work trying to make the money to pay for the extra costs of getting their horse to Ruakaka. For God's sake the winning stake of the 7K races wont go very far, and that's for the winners. Of course they all heard him including the pensioners! elbow 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slam dunk 1,317 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 7 hours ago, Midget said: I don't like to criticize these young kids because they are often fragile and can't cope with criticism, H'mm some retired jockeys aren't too flash with criticsm either. MiDeBo Racing 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant R 348 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 Please read the stewards report on this race i know theres health and safety to consider but to have ago at the starter and club officials is crap or am i wrong and they wont decide on the young apprentice as Kelly wasnt there to give her side of things FFS she possibly may not remember Belinda, mr dickson cider, elbow and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,854 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 Looked pretty straightforward Grant. The Rogerson horse on the outside was just as much to blame IMO, so there might be two jockeys in the gun. Grant R 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,343 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 Exactly Ohokaman. Squeezed up and spat out by both Lord Westbury (B Hutton) and Baboonski (Jasmine Fawcett) gubellini and Grant R 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2Admin2 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 Stewards Report: ACEDECEE (K McCulloch) was crowded between BABOONSKI and LORD WESTBURY passing the 1700 metres clipping a heel and dislodging its rider. K McCulloch was knocked unconscious and was unable to be moved from the track before the field finished the race with runners being directed around the fallen rider. EL FORTUNA was steadied over the concluding stages when in third position after becoming aware of the fallen rider ahead. Stewards were satisfied that this had no bearing on the result of the race. K McCulloch was attended to by St John personnel before being transferred to Whangarei Hospital for further evaluation and observation. Riders T Thornton, B Hutton and apprentice J Fawcett were all interviewed regarding this incident. Due to the unavailability of Mrs McCulloch the matter was adjourned. Stewards spoke to the Club representative as to the number of people who gained access to the racetrack during this incident, also speaking with the Starter, the Assistant Starter and the Course Manager as to the positions they had placed themselves at close proximity to the winning post. The Starter and Assistant Starter were both reminded that under the protocols for this type of incident in a distance race they are to remain at the start until the conclusion of the race. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 Not sure why anyone is blaming Lord Westbury and Brendan Hutton, seems to me he merely held his line and all the pressure came from Baboonski. chevy86, army and Fartoomuch 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen 3,226 Report post Posted October 12, 2016 14 minutes ago, Midget said: Not sure why anyone is blaming Lord Westbury and Brendan Hutton, seems to me he merely held his line and all the pressure came from Baboonski. exactly - now like Midgets and Mr Dickson, Mrs vS has ridden plenty of trackwork and commented that Baboonski's rider never moved her head or arms just kept on going wherever the horse was taking her. chevy86, Fartoomuch, Leggy and 2 others 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...