Cubes 1,770 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 #1.....Never get involved in ownership in the 1st place , and then you might come out close to break-even #2....Get a horse that wins a Group 1 or somesuch , or otherwise you are pretty much screwed Cubes and Out ViewFromTheTop and Irishbay 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,094 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 Jeepers Cubes, did the Kingswood break down or something? Cubes 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis2 1,078 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 Cuber I has a horse that won somesuch and lost money. Probably won 2-3 somesuchs . If you are not in it for the fun it will be a stressful time gubellini and Shad 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,962 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 Cubes for you it is obviously all bad!!! Either you have bad luck? You have a bad judge buying for you? You have a bad trainer? You use bad jockeys? Or it's just a bad decision for you to be involved? Incidentally I don't know who trains for you, nor do I know the name of your nags, although most on here seem to know both given the comments that they make such as those a Friday or two ago.] Think about it! With a little bit of luck, good advice when buying, a good trainer, using good trainers and finally a little bit of patience, it is still fun and can be very rewarding EVEN in today's racing climate that bares no resemblance to 20/30 years ago. Look around you at the success stories.......there are still plenty of them. JOJAN 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimbo 734 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 From seeing it race I thought your one might be suited to NSW racing. Not quite Group One stuff, but reasonable stakes: http://www.racingnsw.com.au/default.aspx?s=article-display&id=20311 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contentious 616 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 13 hours ago, Cubes said: #1.....Never get involved in ownership in the 1st place , and then you might come out close to break-even #2....Get a horse that wins a Group 1 or somesuch , or otherwise you are pretty much screwed Cubes and Out old chinese proverb .. Confucius say only way to make money from racing is get top job in building Jackson St. Petone! bloke 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,702 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 I strapped for a guy who had a horse that won over 250k and it only cost him a few bags of oats to buy. Problem was the 4/5 horses he had before a good one came along and the 4/5 horses he had after the good one departed. To be fair he creamed it when he sold his land and stables. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,558 Report post Posted July 6, 2016 No use being in the game if you think its a way to make money, most people in it for the passion, if your not, find another hobby. JOJAN and elbow 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOM 1,017 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 How can you be passionate about frittering away 20,000 to 30,000 a year participating in a fantasy world and still call your self sane? kakama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,558 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 24 minutes ago, GOM said: How can you be passionate about frittering away 20,000 to 30,000 a year participating in a fantasy world and still call your self sane? Easy choice then, nobody forcing your hand, move on too bigger things im sure there is other interests to spend your money on, lotto worth 40mill, casino ect, plenty out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalano 951 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 I know the place that Cubes is speaking from - been there a few times myself, and nearly chucked it in. Owning a horse gives you unmatched highs, but no doubt those highs are so good, and you can live off them so long, because of the many, many lows. My wife talked me out of giving it all away, after yet another non-performer was retired to a good home; she said 'so what are you going to do then? It's your passion' So I got another one. And another. And now we have a good one in the paddock that I can't really afford, but there's no way I'm not going to afford, and I can't wait for the next couple of years to pass to see him on the track - in my mind, he's already winning the Cox; and that's a very happy thought to keep me going on the dark days. So, I don't think Cubes will give it away, and yes, we do know that racehorse ownership is a quick way to turn a large fortune into a small one, but I'm going to win the Cox Plate, take my boy to England, rent a tux and meet the Queen at Ascot - winning lotto won't get you that! Ashoka, Steve Paul, Memphis2 and 9 others 12 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazach 133 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 11 minutes ago, Catalano said: I know the place that Cubes is speaking from - been there a few times myself, and nearly chucked it in. Owning a horse gives you unmatched highs, but no doubt those highs are so good, and you can live off them so long, because of the many, many lows. My wife talked me out of giving it all away, after yet another non-performer was retired to a good home; she said 'so what are you going to do then? It's your passion' So I got another one. And another. And now we have a good one in the paddock that I can't really afford, but there's no way I'm not going to afford, and I can't wait for the next couple of years to pass to see him on the track - in my mind, he's already winning the Cox; and that's a very happy thought to keep me going on the dark days. So, I don't think Cubes will give it away, and yes, we do know that racehorse ownership is a quick way to turn a large fortune into a small one, but I'm going to win the Cox Plate, take my boy to England, rent a tux and meet the Queen at Ascot - winning lotto won't get you that! A great post, and really hits the nail on the head I think - so what if it's only a dream; life is short. The only difference between me and you Catalano is that my wife talked me INTO giving it away! Irishbay, elbow and Catalano 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crustyngrizzly 1,702 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 Don't waste all your money on your passion as I don't want my taxes paying for your rest home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,846 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 Despite Cubes downcast post, reliable sources tell me the Kingswood will be packed up and headed Ashvegas way, where better weather and a slightly firmer track could result in a more sunnier disposition if all goes well...all the best Cubes...... Cubes and Ashoka 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka 1,179 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 Cubes... You will be back...you know it and I know it. No matter how badly the low-life scum who currently run our country and our industry continue to behave, we will see them out or die trying. Head up...have a drink, then have several for me...cheers! All the best. Ashoka Cubes 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb 2,064 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ashoka said: Cubes... You will be back...you know it and I know it. No matter how badly the low-life scum who currently run our country and our industry continue to behave, we will see them out or die trying. Head up...have a drink, then have several for me...cheers! All the best. Ashoka Seriously? Low Life Scum, what an offensive thing to say. Very few of them running the country or racing would fit into that category (even Green party polys are not that), most are their trying to do good for all concerned and most are able to perform that function very well. The fact that they lack leadership & direction is not attributable to them, who in general are doing a good job and the job they are directed to do. Low life scum is more applicable to Murders, Rapists, sellers of Narcotics etc. Catalano 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseacol 2,488 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 Cubes is a sportsman in the true sense of the word. Takes rough with smooth and has a beer and a smile and carries on. But we all pull our hair out sometimes. I had a run of lasts and second lasts in a row (5 I think), then won a nice race at riccarton and yesterday found out another had done a pedal bone. Dead set - you'd have to like the game wouldn't you ? Good luck Cubes vanturk1, Cubes and richie 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,004 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 Cubes to use some poetic license from the timeless poem "If" by Rudyard Kipling If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster And treat those two impostors just the same You will be a successful owner my son! Cubes 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turny 1,224 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 Cubes is just a sympton of reality in nz - living the dream Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 22 minutes ago, kakama said: Hardly surprising that cubes thinks like this. Odds are really stacked against the poor old owner. These are the people, along with the poor old punters, who are really getting it up the date, getting fleeced each month. Yet, some on here , reckon the poor old trainers and jockeys are really finding it hard? Well, I know who I feel sorry for, and it ain't the trainer with a new truck and 30 acre farm! I know who I feel sorry for, your missus. By your own admission she's getting it up the date, and getting fleeced every month......when all she wants is a nice paddock of green grass.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,004 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 GOM having raced horses on and off for over 40 years I look forward to the men in white coats coming to take me away! elbow 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 18 hours ago, Ohokaman said: Despite Cubes downcast post, reliable sources tell me the Kingswood will be packed up and headed Ashvegas way, where better weather and a slightly firmer track could result in a more sunnier disposition if all goes well...all the best Cubes...... Tongue tie off this week but same jockey. Good Luck Cubes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted July 7, 2016 18 hours ago, Ohokaman said: Despite Cubes downcast post, reliable sources tell me the Kingswood will be packed up and headed Ashvegas way, where better weather and a slightly firmer track could result in a more sunnier disposition if all goes well...all the best Cubes...... Tongue tie off this week but same jockey. Good Luck Cubes richie 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,846 Report post Posted July 8, 2016 Much better run Cubes....only beaten by a pretty fair horse who had won in HK and banked $150k along the way. Hopefully the mood is a little better today....stick with it, your day will come..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fartoomuch 1,376 Report post Posted July 8, 2016 Given every chance after a better jump today. Winner came from behind it so chin up and remember it was a 20K race so 2nd money is not all bad. FYG it paid 4.50 in Oz as opposed to 3.10 here gubellini 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...