True Story...almost.

[scooby3051 4,586]

14 minutes ago, CBT said:

How exactly is the truth poor form Colin? 

I’ll tell what poor form is. Poor form is trolling and deliberately disputing an indisputable fact. Something I should receive an apology for but I won’t.

And yes, Janet did give approval for me to quote her and I’m more than happy to give short stuff her mobile number to confirm. 

 

I think you are really showing your true colors now, two people are disputing you side of the story..where are your facts to back up your side. You are also twisting the story, being offered a share and her selling through the ring as you said are not the same, you are changing the facts now to suit yourself.

You stated

She told me of a story many years ago at the horse sales where she purchased a yearling for 10K. The lot immediately after was purchased by Trevor and he offered Janet a share in the horse. Janet laughed and told Trevor the horse looks like a mutt declining his offer. 

So she may have been offered a share but not the way you described it so I think Leo is 100% correct in the way he detailed it...you however were factually incorrect so stop saying P4P owes you anything...he does not. 

Also please stop trying to drag Trevor into this some of your comments are in poor taste with him just passing.

[CBT 82]

On 4/15/2019 at 5:38 AM, scooby3051 said:

I think you are really showing your true colors now, two people are disputing you side of the story..where are your facts to back up your side. You are also twisting the story, being offered a share and her selling through the ring as you said are not the same, you are changing the facts now to suit yourself.

You stated

She told me of a story many years ago at the horse sales where she purchased a yearling for 10K. The lot immediately after was purchased by Trevor and he offered Janet a share in the horse. Janet laughed and told Trevor the horse looks like a mutt declining his offer. 

So she may have been offered a share but not the way you described it so I think Leo is 100% correct in the way he detailed it...you however were factually incorrect so stop saying P4P owes you anything...he does not. 

He’s called me a liar numerous times on this forum, the latest being after I quoted what our close family friend (Sir Woolf Fisher’s daughter) told me yesterday. 

I have NEVER lied on this forum Leigh EVER.

That is slander and deserves an apology but we all know how biased you have always been Leigh.

Edited April 19, 2019 by scooby3051
Inflammatory content towards P4P removed

[rdytdy 4,798]

Sunline never went through the sales to be purchased by Trevor McKee and that is a fact. One fact is that Trevor didn't want to even train her and only relented in taking the filly after some hassling.

CBT  -  Perhaps you had better read the book Sunline - Heart Of A Champion by Fiona McKee pages 57 - 61 

[Idolmite 408]

5 minutes ago, rdytdy said:

Sunline never went through the sales to be purchased by Trevor McKee and that is a fact. One fact is that Trevor didn't want to even train her and only relented in taking the filly after some hassling.

CBT  -  Perhaps you had better read the book Sunline - Heart Of A Champion by Fiona McKee pages 57 - 61 

Boom!!!!!

[scooby3051 4,586]

57 minutes ago, CBT said:

He’s called me a liar numerous times on this forum, the latest being after I quoted what our close family friend (Sir Woolf Fisher’s daughter) told me yesterday. 

I have NEVER lied on this forum Leigh EVER.

That is slander and deserves an apology but we all know how biased you have always been Leigh, even though you have slightly changed your tune to suit your own agenda after losing many valued members of this once amazing thoroughbred forum. 

No you are wrong again CBT..where did i call you a liar????...you stated a fact that was proven wrong...now by 3 posters in here...I am biased to people telling the truth...thats something it seems you wont apologise for...you got it wrong big deal but be man enough to admit that...no need to start to throw shit at me either...you were wrong have been proven wrong thats a fact !!!!

[CBT 82]

1 minute ago, rdytdy said:

Sunline never went through the sales to be purchased by Trevor McKee and that is a fact. One fact is that Trevor didn't want to even train her and only relented in taking the filly after some hassling.

CBT  -  Perhaps you had better read the book Sunline - Heart Of A Champion by Fiona McKee pages 57 - 61 

Ted, you are one of the rare few I truely respect on this forum (Mark, Gary and Maria who I’ve all personally met being the others).

I’ll check out the book but to be honest the truth has probably left the earth along with Trevor as he would’ve been the only one to confirm this once  and for all.

Janet is 73 and a bit dottery on her feet now so maybe the exact details are a bit hazy but I don’t dispute the fact that she was offered a share in Sunline before Thayne Green and Helen Lusty. She offered that information to me yesterday afternoon of her own volition and has confirmed it to me this morning via text message after clarifying with her. 

This woman has been heavily involved in racing her whole life and my mother has known her for over 60 years having gone to St Cuthberts together so I have no reason to dispute that she was offered a share in Sunline by Trevor. 

[scooby3051 4,586]

Nobody has disputed that in here, just disputed your now disproven version of events...Ted would be on the money as always I suspect.

[CBT 82]

On 4/15/2019 at 6:39 AM, scooby3051 said:

No you are wrong again CBT..where did i call you a liar????...you stated a fact that was proven wrong...now by 3 posters in here...I am biased to people telling the truth...thats something it seems you wont apologise for...you got it wrong big deal but be man enough to admit that...no need to start to throw shit at me either...you were wrong have been proven wrong thats a fact !!!!

Molloy has called me a liar several times including on this very thread Leigh. 

That is slander. Go and look up the definition of “libel”.

You try to come across as balanced and fair but to the contrary you have conveniently chosen to ignore this while at the same time scrutinise every word of my own. 

You have also omitted my full postings further emphasing my point that you have an agenda as nothing I have posted is not factual.

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[scooby3051 4,586]

I think that he was simply correcting your version of events...I am not ignoring anything least of all your version of the truth...now can we move on please i think the picture is clear now.

[shaneMcAlister 693]

I was offered a share in her too by Trevor (not sure if before or after Janet), but turned it down.  Big regrets.... 

[CBT 82]

1 hour ago, shaneMcAlister said:

I was offered a share in her too by Trevor (not sure if before or after Janet), but turned it down.  Big regrets.... 

Great Tui ad.

Shane McAlister invented Fisher & Paykel too.

Yeah right 

[We're Doomed 2,587]

Surely it is pretty straight forward to prove whether that Fisher woman purchased a yearling at a sale in 1997 for $10,000 and the very next lot was Sunline? Someone must have sales records from that time. It is hardly a "he says, she says" argument.

[Idolmite 408]

11 minutes ago, We're Doomed said:

Surely it is pretty straight forward to prove whether that Fisher woman purchased a yearling at a sale in 1997 for $10,000 and the very next lot was Sunline? Someone must have sales records from that time. It is hardly a "he says, she says" argument.

Well from what's been said, Sunline never went through the sales ring, so that being the case the theory is moot. 

[Fartoomuch 1,376]

6 hours ago, Idolmite said:

Boom!!!!!

Boom Boom. Knock out decision  to Ted. Again

[CBT 82]

2 minutes ago, Fartoomuch said:

Boom Boom. Knock out decision  to Ted. Again

How so? Please clarify.

A private conversation between Trevor McKee and Janet Fisher where he offered her a share in Sunline which she chose to make me privy to yesterday.

I’m confused exactly where this knockout decision to Ted is? 

[Idolmite 408]

6 minutes ago, CBT said:

How so? Please clarify.

A private conversation between Trevor McKee and Janet Fisher where he offered her a share in Sunline which she chose to make me privy to yesterday.

I’m confused exactly where this knockout decision to Ted is? 

How can Sunline of been the next horse through the sales ring after Ms Fisher's purchase, if Sunline never went through the sales ring?

[CBT 82]

5 minutes ago, Idolmite said:

How can Sunline of been the next horse through the sales ring after Ms Fisher's purchase, if Sunline never went through the sales ring?

I’ll give you Janet’s mobile number Barry and you can clarify that for yourself or alternatively you can go and knock on her door and see her face to face in Riddell Rd. She lives a few doors down from Graham Hart. 

 

[Absolutely Red 1]

Leigh my understanding of the situation was that this ownership group raced Interval trained by TJ and when he was sold for a considerable sum they leased Sunline prior to subsequent purchase.

[kdt 191]

C'mon CBT it is quite clear that Sunline never went through the sales ring. A cursory check on my part found this out very quickly and I wouldn't doubt Ted's info for a moment. The breeders offered her to Trevor McKee. Perhaps your friend is confusing Sunline with another horse. 

 

[CBT 82]

1 minute ago, kdt said:

C'mon CBT it is quite clear that Sunline never went through the sales ring. A cursory check on my part found this out very quickly and I wouldn't doubt Ted's info for a moment. The breeders offered her to Trevor McKee. Perhaps your friend is confusing Sunline with another horse. 

 

With all due respect kdt I’m not sure how you could confuse the most successful NZ trained horse to come out of the country in the last 20 odd years with another one.

Why would the daughter of Sir Woolf Fisher voluntarily offer me that information when the topic of Trevor McKee came up in conversation?

She has been in the thoroughbred industry her entire life with some good success and her father stood Desert Sun at his stud.

She has nothing to gain by lying about that. 

I’m just quoting word for word what she told me yesterday. Purely her words not mine. She was offered a share in Sunline by Trevor McKee and she turned it down. Unless anyone can prove that conversation didn’t occur between them I believe her.

[We're Doomed 2,587]

14 minutes ago, CBT said:

With all due respect kdt I’m not sure how you could confuse the most successful NZ trained horse to come out of the country in the last 20 odd years with another one.

Why would the daughter of Sir Woolf Fisher voluntarily offer me that information when the topic of Trevor McKee came up in conversation?

She has been in the thoroughbred industry her entire life with some good success and her father stood Desert Sun at his stud.

She has nothing to gain by lying about that. 

I’m just quoting word for word what she told me yesterday. Purely her words not mine. She was offered a share in Sunline by Trevor McKee and she turned it down. Unless anyone can prove that conversation didn’t occur between them I believe her.

Your original story was that sunline was the next horse through the sales ring after one that she purchased, she had a look at it and didn't like it. Is there now a variation on that story whereby they were merely chatting and he offered her a share in a horse that didn't actually go through the sales and that she hadn't seen?

[scooby3051 4,586]

4 minutes ago, We're Doomed said:

Your original story was that sunline was the next horse through the sales ring after one that she purchased, she had a look at it and didn't like it. Is there now a variation on that story whereby they were merely chatting and he offered her a share in a horse that didn't actually go through the sales and that she hadn't seen?

Well CBT has changed the story to try to cover up his factually incorrect opening statement, that was what was being pointed out to him but he seems to now be trying to say the lady was offered a share but nothing about the sales ring nonsense....so...CBT you are wrong..boom boom...sorry time to raise the white flag mate.

[CBT 82]

12 minutes ago, We're Doomed said:

Your original story was that sunline was the next horse through the sales ring after one that she purchased, she had a look at it and didn't like it. Is there now a variation on that story whereby they were merely chatting and he offered her a share in a horse that didn't actually go through the sales and that she hadn't seen?

My story or Janet’s story? 

[CBT 82]

7 minutes ago, scooby3051 said:

Well CBT has changed the story to try to cover up his factually incorrect opening statement, that was what was being pointed out to him but he seems to now be trying to say the lady was offered a share but nothing about the sales ring nonsense....so...CBT you are wrong..boom boom...sorry time to raise the white flag mate.

Since when is quoting Janet Fisher word for word verbatim “my story” Leigh? 

 

 

[Red Rum 1,405]

CBT is re telling a story given to him by an elderly person from an incident many many years before that was likely a short conversation between two people  , I think it's passage of time and sequence of events blurring some details  .The lady isn't making up she was offered a share I am sure  , it's just the exact circumstances and CBT is re telling what he was told. I don't think anyone at all is lying here , difference between incorrect recollections and straight out lying.