Friend Family 356 Report post Posted February 18 I reckon $1.30 pops ARE expected to win ......by a few punters anyway. And here this Pogo my man ....how many present or past stewards have EVER ridden a horse? .... I rest my case your honour.....send the jury out please. FF. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 937 Report post Posted February 18 it gets funnier 1.30 favourites are expected to win 77% of the time, not 100% of the time there are plenty of ex jockeys in the stewards ranks not many punters though here that my man ! jury out . napier and nomates 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,675 Report post Posted February 18 There's all this hereing going on, but no hearing. No listening. Nobody knows what would have happened had Willie settled last. The result is the result. nomates and Pam Robson 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 6,010 Report post Posted February 18 3 hours ago, pogo(aus) said: funniest post ever a restricted class horse beaten in a listed race @ $1.30 and the worlds coming to an end.............. and as was advised on the CMR stable mail Craig will likely take luck out of the occasion......... you blokes are dead set kidding yourselves if you think anything other than what the stewards reported, He certainly took “luck” out of the equation….for the horse, connections, trainer and punters….. scooby3051 and JJ Flash 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_gee 434 Report post Posted February 18 cracks me up nothing was said on the shocking ride of nash Chestnut, Pak Star and nomates 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytdy 5,358 Report post Posted February 18 1 hour ago, mr_gee said: cracks me up nothing was said on the shocking ride of nash Are you talknig about Buenos Noches? If so, he wasn't ridden upside down as Jimmysstar was. Buenos Noches has always been settled back in the running in his races. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis3 1,320 Report post Posted February 19 Not usually when he’s fresh Ted but maybe because he’s older. Shinn had him handier when he really was competitive with Imperatriz. Loves the Flemington straight so I’m keen on him in the Newmarket. nomates 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Roustoby 294 Report post Posted February 19 2 hours ago, mr_gee said: cracks me up nothing was said on the shocking ride of nash https://www.punters.com.au/news/buenos-noches-in-a-lengthy-randwick-stewards-report-featuring-nash-rawiller-while-jason-collett-suspended-20240218 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 4,110 Report post Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Michael Roustoby said: https://www.punters.com.au/news/buenos-noches-in-a-lengthy-randwick-stewards-report-featuring-nash-rawiller-while-jason-collett-suspended-20240218 He can say his hand was forced early but there was no excuse for sitting as long as he did , should have gotten closer than he was before the corner . A shocker . Pak Star 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 11,317 Report post Posted February 19 30 minutes ago, nomates said: He can say his hand was forced early but there was no excuse for sitting as long as he did , should have gotten closer than he was before the corner . A shocker . 100% agree awful ride, both as bad as each other... Pak Star 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 937 Report post Posted February 19 1 hour ago, nomates said: He can say his hand was forced early but there was no excuse for sitting as long as he did , should have gotten closer than he was before the corner . A shocker . a shocker ? n0 ! bigger fish to fry ? yes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 937 Report post Posted February 19 brad davidson @braddavo Anyone criticising Craig Williams for his ride on Jimmystar is off the mark IMO. Give me those tactics over easing from the mid gate any time. The other on pace runner ran third. Horse had every possible chance and Makram was too good on the day Leggy, Insider and rdytdy 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Riston 1,718 Report post Posted February 19 I didn't think it was that much of a shocker - seemed to jump well and then he didn't exactly have to hurry him to cross and landed the lead without too much energy spent. If good enough he should have won I feel. From that start they are running the bend for a fair way, so if he sat out there he would have covered a ton of extra and who knows if that would have been any better and changed the result. I think Williams biggest blunder was to not back himself on the option that he took - apologising fueled the fire Pak Star, Leggy, say no more and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Riston 1,718 Report post Posted February 19 Snap Pogo - posted at the same time with the same sentiment Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 11,317 Report post Posted February 19 7 minutes ago, Alf Riston said: I didn't think it was that much of a shocker - seemed to jump well and then he didn't exactly have to hurry him to cross and landed the lead without too much energy spent. If good enough he should have won I feel. From that start they are running the bend for a fair way, so if he sat out there he would have covered a ton of extra and who knows if that would have been any better and changed the result. I think Williams biggest blunder was to not back himself on the option that he took - apologising fueled the fire Sorry but I disagree, he made the decision to against the horses normal racing pattern and it failed to work out, his decision his mistake and good on him for owning it, after all we are humans and we are made to make mistakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 937 Report post Posted February 19 similar to his ride at cranbourne thats gone completely un mentioned, ridden out to be near the lead although not in front not to mention the CMR stable mail makes a mockery of the comments re the horses racing pattern absolute sour grapes about a 1.26 fav getting rissoled. had every chance on 54kg and the bookies reaction is 7/1 out the gate now to 14/1 in the all star mile ??? why? nomates and Pure Steel 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,185 Report post Posted February 19 1 minute ago, pogo(aus) said: similar to his ride at cranbourne thats gone completely un mentioned, ridden out to be near the lead although not in front not to mention the CMR stable mail makes a mockery of the comments re the horses racing pattern absolute sour grapes about a 1.26 fav getting rissoled. had every chance on 54kg and the bookies reaction is 7/1 out the gate now to 14/1 in the all star mile ??? why? Not good enough? Alf Riston and Pam Robson 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 937 Report post Posted February 19 its got a chance , i took 20/1 but after that weak effort on saturday maybe the bookies are right makram goes good. "never run up steps, never take odds on "" Ken.Howard "never eat the meat pies at a Monday long weekend race meeting " Zelda Kratchanova Insider and Leggy 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 4,237 Report post Posted February 19 I love the “position” that the “four” of you are taking. Whether “for or against” we won’t ever really know so keep posting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 937 Report post Posted February 19 6 minutes ago, Insider said: I love the “position” that the “four” of you are taking. Whether “for or against” we won’t ever really know so keep posting thats true Insider those arguing against Williams discount the Cranbourne run and tactics and ignore the CMR stable mail comments irrespective, theres only downside backing @ 1.26 Alf Riston and Insider 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Steel 1,382 Report post Posted February 19 15 minutes ago, Insider said: I love the “position” that the “four” of you are taking. Whether “for or against” we won’t ever really know so keep posting Far as I could see , it had it's chance to win. Was in front 100m out after showing guts and beating off Savannah Cloud. The straight is Loooonng at Flemington though. If you ran the race again i'd say he might get there 2nd time round. slightly less pressure from Savannah Cloud who went to him a Fraction to early . Wonder why it's rider Not Criticised ?? lol........ I thought JimmyStar looked good myself and was put there to win it. and Win it , he Nearly did lol.... None of this 'run on late' stuff that a lot of gallopers do (a lot of us trotting blokes love to lead. always gives you the chance to Win ) Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 4,110 Report post Posted February 19 Anybody would think this horse faded badly and finished amongst the tailenders , he ran second , 2ND , coming out of rating and benchmark races into a listed race , not an easy step at anytime but certainly tough in Aus , all at just his seventh start . I just don't get the angst , I've seen far worse rides for far worse results . Perspective required me thinks . Insider, Pure Steel and Memphis3 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Riston 1,718 Report post Posted February 19 1 hour ago, scooby3051 said: Sorry but I disagree, he made the decision to against the horses normal racing pattern and it failed to work out, his decision his mistake and good on him for owning it, after all we are humans and we are made to make mistakes. It's these difference of opinions that make it interesting Scooby and this one is a classic '2 sides of the fence' I think the horse went nicely enough but is no $1.30 Superstar. Not many gallopers command that sort of favoritism, given how much can go wrong in the running ..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,675 Report post Posted February 19 Best thread ever, n0? Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 4,237 Report post Posted February 19 4 minutes ago, Alf Riston said: It's these difference of opinions that make it interesting Scooby and this one is a classic '2 sides of the fence' I think the horse went nicely enough but is no $1.30 Superstar. Not many gallopers command that sort of favoritism, given how much can go wrong in the running ..... Especially if you or I make them our BB like I did along with my wife! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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