Insider 4,520 Report post Posted February 19 1 minute ago, Idolmite said: Best thread ever, n0? yEs it certainly is. Can I give a bIG welcome back to POGO sTICK as he has really livened the threads iF only his wife would post, wouldn’t it be something n0? Alf Riston and pogo(aus) 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,640 Report post Posted February 19 Bring back Thommo, very much missed MLB specialist and loves his favs Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,842 Report post Posted February 19 2 minutes ago, TurnyTom said: Bring back Thommo, very much missed MLB specialist and loves his favs One of his most spruiked horses ever, Espiona, ran a good third at the weekend. Finally running up to its potential without carrying the weight of CT's expectations as well as the jockey Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 937 Report post Posted February 19 23 minutes ago, Insider said: yEs it certainly is. Can I give a bIG welcome back to POGO sTICK as he has really livened the threads iF only his wife would post, wouldn’t it be something n0? funniest post ever zelda is bursting to paste agian but the scoobster has barred her she beleives , probably because of her spelling n0? Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friend Family 357 Report post Posted February 19 FFS ...BREATHING = the most important thing in a race for any horse. You try sprinting down the drive to the dairy to get the milk ......your breath is gone and you walk home .....and any judge with half a brain could see that in the straight he couldn't level his BREATHING and was battling because of this.......you see it time and time again and this one was no different. Drawing wide (and the early rush) cost him the race...... he couldn't correct his breathing. As I said previously you simply MUST ride a horse in his or her comfort zone wether the Pogomiester agree's or not. Good debate ....but when the jury returns they will say ......'All rise .....have you reached a verdict?' .....and the verdict will be that the horse himself was NOT GUILTY. FF. Insider 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 937 Report post Posted February 19 haha the air at Cranbourne is just as thin as your argument Pure Steel, nomates and wph 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Riston 1,827 Report post Posted February 19 25 minutes ago, Friend Family said: and any judge with half a brain could see that in the straight he couldn't level his BREATHING and was battling Any judge with half a brain and phenomenal eyesight.... I spent significant money getting my eyesight corrected but even then couldn't make out Jimmy's breath Back to Specsavers for me... Memphis3, wph, Pure Steel and 4 others 1 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Steel 1,460 Report post Posted February 19 FF they are All possibly struggling for a bit of air the last bit . Jockey's included sometimes . How was the Craig Williams brain explosion on Bella Nipotina in the previous race?. only 4th but with-in a length of Imperatriz. totally stuffed in the breathing . Imperatriz gave them a real gassing ? lol.. Goot it right in the First Leg of the Quaddie though. RIFF ROCKET (the Vic Derby Winner resuming) home like an express train in race 7 the CS Hayes for Willow. Had them All out of breath the last bit. It was a 'breath taking' finish by the Rocket . Riff Rocket owner fat Debbie still gloating to camera's ok after . she has good set of lungs at least Hope you enjoyed Willow breathing fire on that one . Keep up the good Willow nomates, wph, Memphis3 and 2 others 2 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,892 Report post Posted February 19 Chesty is spot on Every dog has it's day, Dandy Andy dropped Vo Rogue and Bonecrusher and never produced anything else. Touch of Silver wins a rating 65 on Rotorua Cup Day 16 lens faster than the Cup 2 races later, does Kiwi lead the 83 Cup and Win.???? We will never know but on the day at One moment in time shit can happen. Can Pour the wine lead and win? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis3 1,365 Report post Posted February 19 If they change the jockey it would be a blue. He’s been nabbed by a roughie on the line. I’m thinking all the high profile owners having a bellyache has made the ride a big deal. Basically the draw beat him. End of. Be interesting to see how horse progresses from now. Probably a few good benchmark races there for him. Leggy and nomates 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 937 Report post Posted February 19 only at Cranbourne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 937 Report post Posted February 19 1 minute ago, Memphis3 said: If they change the jockey it would be a blue. He’s been nabbed by a roughie on the line. I’m thinking all the high profile owners having a bellyache has made the ride a big deal. Basically the draw beat him. End of. Be interesting to see how horse progresses from now. Probably a few good benchmark races there for him. there is a reason why Gai Waterhouse and Adrian Botts horses are ridden forward' they breathe well Memphis3, chiknsmack, nomates and 1 other 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,892 Report post Posted February 19 3 minutes ago, Memphis3 said: If they change the jockey it would be a blue. He’s been nabbed by a roughie on the line. I’m thinking all the high profile owners having a bellyache has made the ride a big deal. Basically the draw beat him. End of. Be interesting to see how horse progresses from now. Probably a few good benchmark races there for him. Funny we are having this discussion after Ryan Elliot got grilled for his ride on Legarto ... he supposedly rode for luck and everyone berated him..Williams takes it out of the equation and same result Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis3 1,365 Report post Posted February 19 All those people who backed Buenos Noches take comfort from Nash . “ he went outstanding” he must of because he said it twice. Wonder what he says if he wins. nomates 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 4,512 Report post Posted February 19 35 minutes ago, Friend Family said: FFS ...BREATHING = the most important thing in a race for any horse. You try sprinting down the drive to the dairy to get the milk ......your breath is gone and you walk home .....and any judge with half a brain could see that in the straight he couldn't level his BREATHING and was battling because of this.......you see it time and time again and this one was no different. Drawing wide (and the early rush) cost him the race...... he couldn't correct his breathing. As I said previously you simply MUST ride a horse in his or her comfort zone wether the Pogomiester agree's or not. Good debate ....but when the jury returns they will say ......'All rise .....have you reached a verdict?' .....and the verdict will be that the horse himself was NOT GUILTY. FF. For all his breathing issues only ONE , that's ONE horse , was breathing evenly enough to just catch him on the line . How bad were the rides on the others to not get them breathing them evenly enough to get over the top of the one horse that was breathing out and in instead of in and out . Idolmite, Alf Riston and Memphis3 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 4,512 Report post Posted February 19 4 minutes ago, pogo(aus) said: there is a reason why Gai Waterhouse and Adrian Botts horses are ridden forward' they breathe well I imagine they would stop breathing if they got caught in behind . Gruff and Pam Robson 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis3 1,365 Report post Posted February 19 Just now, Gruff said: Funny we are having this discussion after Ryan Elliot got grilled for his ride on Legarto ... he supposedly rode for luck and everyone berated him..Williams takes it out of the equation and same result He rode it for luck in the Karaka 3 year old and it went pear shaped as well. Mick Dee will be on in Oz. Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 4,512 Report post Posted February 19 1 minute ago, Memphis3 said: All those people who backed Buenos Noches take comfort from Nash . “ he went outstanding” he must of because he said it twice. Wonder what he says if he wins. Sounds more like personal arse covering than rapping the horse . Even if it was an outstanding effort . Memphis3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,892 Report post Posted February 19 Just now, Memphis3 said: He rode it for luck in the Karaka 3 year old and it went pear shaped as well. Mick Dee will be on in Oz. He rode precisely to trainers instructions and somehow won after playing up terribly at Riccarton.Dee suits this horses pattern and is a phenomenal rider but Ryan has done a great job Memphis3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,892 Report post Posted February 19 Memps, have you actually seen those instructions.Most know .Being relaxed is intergral Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Riston 1,827 Report post Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Memphis3 said: Basically the draw beat him. End of. 1 hour ago, Friend Family said: Drawing wide (and the early rush) cost him the race..... Williams may have played a role but it's not like he butchered it from a nice draw ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,892 Report post Posted February 19 Give Makram it's due. Solid late and that didn't look a one off Alf Riston 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis3 1,365 Report post Posted February 19 4 hours ago, Gruff said: Memps, have you actually seen those instructions.Most know .Being relaxed is intergral The trainer must have been on the drink. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis3 1,365 Report post Posted February 19 5 hours ago, Pure Steel said: FF they are All possibly struggling for a bit of air the last bit . Jockey's included sometimes . How was the Craig Williams brain explosion on Bella Nipotina in the previous race?. only 4th but with-in a length of Imperatriz. totally stuffed in the breathing . Imperatriz gave them a real gassing ? lol.. Goot it right in the First Leg of the Quaddie though. RIFF ROCKET (the Vic Derby Winner resuming) home like an express train in race 7 the CS Hayes for Willow. Had them All out of breath the last bit. It was a 'breath taking' finish by the Rocket . Riff Rocket owner fat Debbie still gloating to camera's ok after . she has good set of lungs at least Hope you enjoyed Willow breathing fire on that one . Keep up the good Willow You have a crush on fat Debbie. She had a fat day. Riff Rocket AND Fangirl. Prob had a chook from Woolies on the way home. Pure Steel 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pak Star 897 Report post Posted February 19 3 pages now and I am not sure why the stable email hasnt been discussed more if it is indeed true. It makes Ciarons reaction and finger pointing look a bit disingenuous if you ask me. chiknsmack 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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