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Great , doesn't change the fact it has become another average stayers cup , what do you want me to say , it is what it is . I don't know how long you've been watching cup weeks , I'm 50+ years in , it's a shadow of what it was . I grew up at Trentham and if I can say the same about the Wgtn cup week then I'm not picking on your week . I get your passion but it doesn't change facts . -
The only way Timaru could be closed down is if a StrathAyr in at Riccarton, otherwise Canterbury is always going to need three tracks…..thats well proven now. -
Dont forget the NZ cup had higher turnover than the NZB Kiwi
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By We're Doomed · Posted
Before this venues thread runs out of steam we need to address the elephant in the room, which no one has brought up so far, probably waiting for me to mention it: Timaru. NZTR has an unhealthy obsession with eliminating Timaru. I have absolutely no idea why they think like this. There is obviously no science behind it. Messara wanted to close Timaru and keep Waikouaiti, which is really just too stupid for words. They can't even sell it and make lots of money as it isn't saleable and the trots are still there and it is a major training centre, probably producing more winners than Wingatui these days. NZTR are obsessive about centering Canterbury racing around the two Riccarton tracks and Ashburton. It has quickly become obvious how flawed this theory is. Timaru is a crucial track for the SI given its central location and generally good racing surface, especially now that so many other tracks have been closed. Rather than being slated for closure it needs to have money spent on it. If I was running the show, the first thing I would do would be to introduce a 1,400m start point at Timaru to give it some flexibility when setting programmes. With the healthy numbers of horses in Southland, Timaru and Oamaru are crucial tracks to give those horses in the deep south racing opportunities during the winter months if they wish to keep horses going. There is no better evidence of that than this weekend at Oamaru. Some NZTR decisions are just beyond comprehension and Timaru is one of them. -
By The Lone Stranger · Posted
Oscar, Arcee, BetnWin, London - then next tier Gus (who will be better next year after this series having not won top tier) but could win if the others don’t behave. If MP we’re driving itd be be Oscar by a street assuming he’s taken no harm from being just about tripped up by his own driver in the first round and galloping in the second. Credit to them for sticking with the caretaker but not sure I’d have shared the confidence at this point. -
Auckland may have zero interest in in tradition but really the whole industry has given up on it . As for the GNS I have stated they will be moved simply because they don't want to travel and they fill the field , makes managing racing and breaks easier , and simply they want what is easiest for the northern trainers . As for the CHCH carnival , it can continue , but not with the best horses , how many turn up on the first 2 days , then there is a flood on "Cup" day , large number don't care who the horses are just there for the party . So there can still be a carnival . Outside of the GNS the other 2 big races are the cup and the mile , both have had very average fields for the last few years , so I don't believe there is a lot of leverage there . I have always enjoyed cup week from afar , love Addington as much as the gallops , but to be honest I find the red hotters much more interesting now , simply because the fields at Riccarton have become so poor . I wish it were different , but I still advocate for a stand alone Iconic day , run a big sprint , mile , cup , and no reason not to put on a decent stake 3yo mile for those not wishing to take on the gun 3yos . One thing I know is that southerners are determined so it will be interesting to see where this ends up .
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By sunlineboy · Posted
Ninja (Race 2 Randwick) is my best of the day, but once again, at $2, you'll need to tighten the belt. -
By The Lone Stranger · Posted
Agree he’s definitely had some good ones so hope he does again it’s a tough road at the best of times for anyone -
By The Lone Stranger · Posted
Thanks for clarifying was just wondering for obvious reasons - took me hours to come up with Dieno’s Rulers name too even if I was on the wrong track - I could see the horse in my head and the name was just eluding me. Cheers -
By We're Doomed · Posted
I have more confidence than most in the ChCh Cup Week carnival surviving. It is pretty much the only traditional carnival still hanging in there. Probably only Riverton at Easter has retained a bit of tradition in a similar fashion. I even have a bit of confidence in Riccarton retaining the Guineas races for a while, largely because I ask myself what is the alternative? Riccarton is a big, open track that gives every runner a chance. The weather in almost always good. The best horses usually win the races and go on to be prominent at seasons end. And most importantly the races attract a big crowd and have a lot of atmosphere. If the races get moved north I presume they would go to Auckland. That club has zero interest in tradition. They don't even care about Group 1 races. The focus of their season is a couple of sweepstakes and a slot race. All listed races. They are embarrassed by their traditional feature Group races. They hide the Derby, Cup, and various other races away on slot day. On the day with their biggest attendance they only run six races. If the Guineas races went to Auckland they would be run in front of a small crowd sometime in November, probably with a newly introduced slot race as the feature event on the day. So although I think Riccarton has made a pig's arse of running their own affairs and has hardly helped themselves in retaining relevance I think they might retain the Guineas because the alternative is appalling.
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