Pete Lane 1,445 Report post Posted May 9 , Friday 9 May 2025 MEDIA RELEASE $200,000 Racecourse Hotel & Motor Lodge Grand National Steeplechase The Canterbury Jockey Club is delighted to announce that in conjunction with New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing and the Trustees of the Christchurch Racecourse, the 2025 Racecourse Hotel & Motor Lodge sponsored Grand National Steeplechase will be run for a stake of $200,000. To be held on Saturday 9 August, this yearās renewal of one of Riccarton Parkās signature races will be contested for the 150th time, something that was not lost on the Trustees. Peter Cordner, Chairman of the Trustees of the Christchurch Racecourse said āIn 1878 the land now commonly known as Riccarton Park Racecourse was vested in the Trustees of the Christchurch Racecourse. It is fitting that our Board supports the celebration of the 150th running of a race that is such an integral part of the fabric of this famous piece of New Zealand land that we administerā. Racecourse Hotel & Motor Lodge principal Nigel Butterfield said āOur hotel has sat opposite Riccarton Park Racecourse since 1883 and is honoured to be associated with one of New Zealand racingās iconic events. The pub has hosted countless Grand National celebrations and welcomes this synergy with the Canterbury Jockey Club continuing.ā The Grand National Steeplechase joins other iconic Riccarton Park races the New Zealand Cup and Canterbury Gold Cup as having reached their sesquicentennial. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 13,675 Report post Posted May 9 To me this is where everything goes wrong, where are the horses going to come from for this...there is NO jumps races in the SI any more it just seems to me a dying race...or am I wrong here???It has a long history but how long will NI stables fork out the cost to go down to support it...sorry but it looks another bad decision. Insider, We're Doomed, nomates and 1 other 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 6,139 Report post Posted May 9 I get the impression the trustees of the racecourse are pretty thick. They seem to waste money on things that have no upside.Ā Last season they pissed away $100,000 adding an extra bonus to the NZ Cup, which I doubt hardly anyone knew about as it wasn't included in the stake. Now all concerned have doubled the stake of the Grand National. What do they hope to achieve by that? Possibly increase the field size from 8 to 9. Possibly increase turnover by $2,000. Do they think the people of ChCh are going to think "wow the grand National is worth $200,000 this year, lets pop along." Do they not realise the value of a big stake like that is mostly in the way it creates interest in lead up races. But there are no lead up races at Riccarton or in the SI. What do SI trainers think of their so called premium club pissing away another $100,000 to help out Northern trainers? I doubt it is going to boost southern participation in the race. Perhaps if they had reintroduced the Homeby two weeks before and made it $100,000 it might have achieved something. I hate to sound negative, but what a waste of money. If they had put that $100,000 into The Stewards during Cup Week and made it $250,000 they might have lifted it up to a group race where it belongs and attracted extra subsidies. Makes everyone involved look pretty dopey. Pam Robson, Insider, nomates and 6 others 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lane 1,445 Report post Posted May 9 Iād say Kevin Myers and Mark Oulaghan would be rubbing their hands with glee at this news. Complete waste of money in my view.Ā . Ā arjay, nomates, Pam Robson and 2 others 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 5,853 Report post Posted May 9 Be lucky if they get more than 7/8 runners . More scatter gun strategy out of NZTR . I would love to know the actual rationale behind this increase . Meanwhile others are struggling on reduced 17k stakes . Pete Lane, scooby3051, Baz (NZ) and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,313 Report post Posted May 9 One would be hoping it's not wet and run on the Synthetic, be hard on the horses, probably wouldn't do the track any good either Pete Lane and scooby3051 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 13,675 Report post Posted May 9 I will give you the benefit of very grave doubts that you are not serious.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,313 Report post Posted May 9 I'm only serious 50% of the time, you get the best of both worlds that way Ā JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesio 75 Report post Posted May 9 WTF are CJC thinkingā¦ā¦..can the strategic decision making of that joint get any worseĀ arjay and We're Doomed 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy 4,233 Report post Posted May 9 16 minutes ago, Tesio said: WTF are CJC thinkingā¦ā¦..can the strategic decision making of that joint get any worseĀ You do have to wonder. Since there are no jumpers in the SI, why not put the money towards fully funding costs for connections willing to bring jumpers down for the meeting, if the purpose is to improve field sizes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,829 Report post Posted May 9 Absolutely no logic or business case in this decision Just plain dumb, crazy nomates 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demophon 40 Report post Posted May 9 As a jump racing fan I think the stakes increase is outstanding.Ā Ā Ā Any whispers about the Grand National Hurdles Stakes? Ā The club will be rewarded with full fields and a great carnival. mckenzie and Aaron Bidlake 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,313 Report post Posted May 9 They may have had intentions of running the steeples on a Central Districts but they couldn't find one suitable. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 6,139 Report post Posted May 9 1 hour ago, Tesio said: WTF are CJC thinkingā¦ā¦..can the strategic decision making of that joint get any worseĀ Probably Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 6,139 Report post Posted May 9 9 minutes ago, Demophon said: As a jump racing fan I think the stakes increase is outstanding.Ā Ā Ā Any whispers about the Grand National Hurdles Stakes? Ā The club will be rewarded with full fields and a great carnival. Define full fields Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demophon 40 Report post Posted May 9 5 minutes ago, We're Doomed said: Define full fields 12 in the steeples and 12 in the hurdles.Ā That will also be the maximun amount of riders as well.Ā There are a few riders over from the UK to increase rider numbers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz (NZ) 1,769 Report post Posted May 9 Could this be a case of just "Berrying The Cash" until August? Blaird, scooby3051, Tesio and 1 other 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,715 Report post Posted May 9 11 hours ago, scooby3051 said: I will give you the benefit of very grave doubts that you are not serious.... Based on his many previous posts on here i doubt it nomates 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates 5,853 Report post Posted May 9 1 hour ago, JJ Flash said: Based on his many previous posts on here i doubt it I didn't want to say anything but I thought he was stretching it saying he was only serious 50% of the time , I couldn't put it above 5%. JJ Flash and scooby3051 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Moi 21 Report post Posted May 9 obviously Berry The Cash will be steeplechasing this season.Ā Crazy decision trying to stave off the inevitable move north.Ā That money would be way better going into 2 or 3 lead up races in the south to build momentum, media and punter interest.Ā Ā TurnyTom, JJ Flash and Blaird 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toblerone 247 Report post Posted May 10 In 2006, the 100th running of the Great Western Steeplechase at Riverton saw the stake raised from XXX to $100,000. A field of nine was drawn but it drew the champion jumper No Hero, who won by 26L. Also there was the top performers Crafty Dancer, Bit Of A Myth (all the way from Cambridge) and the top locals, Kalsoy and Variable.Ā A huge crowd turned out and it remains to this day a memorable race and meeting. The year before? 4 horses - all locals - for $10,000 and the third horse was beaten 88L. In 2004? 5 horses for $10,000.. the year after that 100th running, they got 5 horses (granted, for a stake of $53,000) and only 2 horses finished. Now, I get it Riverton and Riccarton isn't apples with apples but my opinion is you are nothing without the history of horse racing. That 100th running of the Great Western was a momentous occasion and fitting tribute to the race that had been entrenched in Southland racing for a century. The Grand National is bigger and I am sure the increased stake will ensure there are no ifs, buts or maybes around the best local jumpers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toblerone 247 Report post Posted May 10 55 minutes ago, Toblerone said: Ā saw the stake raised from XXX to $100,000. Ā Ā saw the stake raised from $10,000 to $100,000. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam Robson 1,938 Report post Posted May 10 59 minutes ago, Toblerone said: In 2006, the 100th running of the Great Western Steeplechase at Riverton saw the stake raised from XXX to $100,000. A field of nine was drawn but it drew the champion jumper No Hero, who won by 26L. Also there was the top performers Crafty Dancer, Bit Of A Myth (all the way from Cambridge) and the top locals, Kalsoy and Variable.Ā A huge crowd turned out and it remains to this day a memorable race and meeting. The year before? 4 horses - all locals - for $10,000 and the third horse was beaten 88L. In 2004? 5 horses for $10,000.. the year after that 100th running, they got 5 horses (granted, for a stake of $53,000) and only 2 horses finished. Now, I get it Riverton and Riccarton isn't apples with apples but my opinion is you are nothing without the history of horse racing. That 100th running of the Great Western was a momentous occasion and fitting tribute to the race that had been entrenched in Southland racing for a century. The Grand National is bigger and I am sure the increased stake will ensure there are no ifs, buts or maybes around the best local jumpers. Define 'local jumpers' please? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 13,675 Report post Posted May 10 31 minutes ago, Pam Robson said: Define 'local jumpers' please? There are no local as In South Island jumpers....they are all imports from the North......I think he is a bit confused Pam. Pam Robson and Leggy 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenz 1,313 Report post Posted May 11 So the question is if there are no mainland runners how long before the Grand National isĀ obsolete at RiccartonĀ where else if not there,? CD maybe but where,? Just watched a race from.Whanganui and no Justin Evens again, seems to miss more meetings than he's at, would trackside miss him if he was no longer employed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...