rdytdy 5,358 Report post Posted April 13 Ohokaman and Gruff 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig hitchcock 72 Report post Posted April 13 Certainly was , unbelievable really, considering the horses behind her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lane 747 Report post Posted April 13 I can't remember a more comprehensive Group 1 win. Just breathtaking. I think she even surprised the trainer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,587 Report post Posted April 13 Certainly picked the right race to win, but for every horse that wins using those tactics, I'd hate to think how many don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz (NZ) 1,738 Report post Posted April 13 I haven't seen a performance like that since 1987! Outstanding! virtual1 and Pete Lane 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taksan 10 Report post Posted April 13 Yes Kotare Chief's great Auckland Cup. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lane 747 Report post Posted April 13 https://www.racenet.com.au/news/postrace-jockey-reports-from-the-2024-queen-elizabeth-stakes-20240413 James McDonald "Embarrassing". Baz (NZ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckenzie 616 Report post Posted April 13 A brilliant front-running performance, but the lack of urgency from a few of those other riders makes you wonder what they were thinking. From the comments it seems C Williams was more excited about turning the tables on Cascadian whereas the other jocks think he was responsible for letting the leader get away. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,871 Report post Posted April 13 2 minutes ago, mckenzie said: A brilliant front-running performance, but the lack of urgency from a few of those other riders makes you wonder what they were thinking. From the comments it seems C Williams was more excited about turning the tables on Cascadian whereas the other jocks think he was responsible for letting the leader get away. Ultimately the 2.02.2 answers all questions and confirms the riders rate... Was 2.02 at 2000m relative to track state? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Kelly 101 Report post Posted April 13 Can’t understand why any of the other jockeys would blame Craig in anyway they made their own decisions, amazing run from pride of Jenny Gruff, elbow and Pak Star 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 937 Report post Posted April 13 4th – CASCADIAN (Ben Melham) Dunno what to say really. The race was over after three furlongs. Second and third horses should have tacked up. It was always going to win with a scenario like that. yes 100% correct if this was a BM 64 at Gosford the stewards would be all over it . credit to the winner but it was a joke surely. Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,871 Report post Posted April 13 A large lead means nothing until the finish. Kotare Chief went sub 1.40 through the opening mile....it's all on the jock...caddigan...but others rating their mounts ..its not a time trial all the same Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,675 Report post Posted April 13 16 minutes ago, mckenzie said: A brilliant front-running performance, but the lack of urgency from a few of those other riders makes you wonder what they were thinking. From the comments it seems C Williams was more excited about turning the tables on Cascadian whereas the other jocks think he was responsible for letting the leader get away. There certainly appeared to be a distinct lack of urgency (that could be seen from the wide shot - the veeerrryyy wide and ever widening shot, at least), especially when most of those same jockeys have already been chasing the same horse running in the same style - admittedly by slightly lesser margins - and rarely failing to catch her on numerous occasions recently. What were they thinking? Gruff and Ned Kelly 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pak Star 801 Report post Posted April 13 Craig/Mr B were tasked with leading the PoJ chase in the Australian Cup and Mr B put in its worst performance in a long time so im not surprised he didnt want to play that role today. I wouldnt call myself a PoJ fan but I must say that race was a lot more exciting to watch than 90% of the "get to the lead, slam the brakes on and outsprint them from in front" races we see these days Idolmite 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pak Star 801 Report post Posted April 13 49 minutes ago, Pete Lane said: https://www.racenet.com.au/news/postrace-jockey-reports-from-the-2024-queen-elizabeth-stakes-20240413 James McDonald "Embarrassing". Second time riding a fave beaten by Jenni. Happened in the 2023 Empire Rose when riding Atishu he swung for home 30+ off the lead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis3 1,320 Report post Posted April 13 Brilliant. Win by Pride of Jenni. Just too good. Funny how folk have to find a fall guy for the rest of them. Pam Robson, Ned Kelly, elbow and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,871 Report post Posted April 13 It seemed from the timepiece 11.6 200m was the rate from the 1200 at least till the 400 46.4....so 1.15.8 for the other 1200.... all's boils down to your opposition ? Are they shit or are they rating their mounts to 2000 ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,871 Report post Posted April 13 3 minutes ago, Memphis3 said: Brilliant. Win by Pride of Jenni. Just too good. Funny how folk have to find a fall guy for the rest of them. Why not 3M ? Wasn't a Track record Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,871 Report post Posted April 13 1 hour ago, Baz (NZ) said: I haven't seen a performance like that since 1987! Outstanding! Kotare went 3.15 Baz.... and you couldn't question riders chasing that tempo Kotare Chief went sub 2.02 running 3200m in 3.15 so in this instance riders fell asleep Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckenzie 616 Report post Posted April 13 Chris Waller on how the Queen Elizabeth Stakes played out: "I don't know why they let the race unfold like that." "Most of my boys said it was out of their control but I think they all said that." Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogo(aus) 937 Report post Posted April 13 zelda went to royal randwick today and reported that "pride of jenny breathes better than jimmysastar no? " she also said the Ham rolls are to dye for even if you need to lay buy them n0? Alf Riston, Memphis3 and Pam Robson 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stodge 2,112 Report post Posted April 13 Just watched the race waiting for the afternoon's festivities at Aintree to get underway. Memories of CRISP in 1973....of course he got collared on the line. Thoughts - I'm not sure Declan Bates had much say in what happened - she was tanking (as we say up here) after the first 600m and it was going to be a question of whether she stopped quickly or slowly. He managed to get her settled just in time to conserve her energy but she was tying up fast in the final 200m. The other jockeys probably knew what was going to happen but seemed to take their time reacting - they started chasing on the home turn rather than 200m before when it might have made a difference. Enterprising from Bates but will he be so lucky next time? Could he do that in a Cox Plate for example? Reminded me a little of FRANKEL's 2000 Guineas in 2012 but he wasn't stopping at the end - VIA SISTINA ran well enough but was firmly put in her place by the winner. Too early to call her a superstar - she's clearly very good but if she gets taken on for the lead, what then? No one will ever give her that kind of rope again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,210 Report post Posted April 13 Herculean Secretariat 1973 Belmont Stakes type run. Pam Robson and Alf Riston 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phar Lap Fan 105 Report post Posted April 13 What Idolmite said - other jockeys knew that she was a good horse. At the 1,000 m., still 30 lengths ahead, was the time to panic but I could not see her losing from there. Kotare Chief went to the lead about 1,700 m. from winning post in 1987 Auckland Cup. Was an outsider so other jockeys might have thought that he would come back. Should have done their homeowrk - still regret picking but not backing him as the only horse that had form over 2 miles. As she was a few spaces out from the rail, the track may have been slightly off so the time was very smart. Smarter than the other horses and jockeys. In the same class as Secretariat's Belmont Stakes win but he set a World Record and apparently acclerated every quarter mile. Still it was absolutely f. brilliant and a joy to see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattski 185 Report post Posted April 13 The 2.02 time is misleading. Look at the splits at the top of the replay and the first 200 is 15.14 despite her coming out of the gates like a bull!! Then she racks off mid 11s. I think the distance was circa 2040 (I have no idea why - the rail was out on the bend but that doesn't explain 40m). In summary; - This was an exceptional performance against quality opposition. Nothing the other jocks could have done. The race was over by the 1000! - In October Jenni was 3 wins from 22 starts. Now she's racked up 4 G1s and produced an amazing performance. I'd love to know the back story - on her third trainer and didn't race for 10mths at one point. - What amazing viewing! I backed a loser and was screaming for Jenni at the 300. Poetry in motion Alf Riston, Pak Star, swampfox and 4 others 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...