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    • You would laugh if it wasn’t so sad.   NZ Racing management seems doomed to repeat past failures.
    • Sounds correct. The two clubs you list had their own tracks. The other oncourse only clubs, such as the Riccarton Turf Club, all raced at other clubs venues and ceased to exist..
    • The same is true here in a way it wasn't when I marked the board for Mecca Bookmakers in Soho 40 years ago. Back then, 90% of bets in shops were on horse or dog racing - you had the occasional footie punter who did the midweek and weekend coupons. Now, the share of shop turnover from horse and greyhound racing has fallen below 50%. Shops now have FOBTs (Fixed Odds Betting Terminals - you call them POKIEs I believe). Cartoon racing, as I call it, means there's something going on every couple of minutes but it's essentially horse bingo. Football betting has exploded with the coming of the Premier League and fewer people bet on racing off-course as a result while off-course dog racing is almost non-existant in the shops I frequent these days. If horse racing stopped tomorrow, the bookies would fill the space with more cartoon racing - they don't need horse racing in the day they once did.
    • Yes, and EntainNZ certainly have a vested interest in supporting NZ racing as betting events. However, if NZ racing closed down tomorrow, I'm sure their NZ business would survive.
    • I was a member at Trentham for 20 plus years. This was mainly because I am a Wellingtonian and horse racing was one of my loves of life along with the beautiful game and my wife. The First AGM I attended was 2005 when they declared themselves broke.  John Fokerd was the Treasurer who went onto be President and later was struck off as an accountant for stealing clients' money. The AGM in 2005 was held at The Duxton which at the time was a plush Hotel so of course nothing but the best for a Club about to go broke. The meeting was a shambles but the members in their wisdom voted the President and Treasurer back to loud applause which i found astonishing and I recall that when any members raised concerns about the Club's plight, they were met with derision from a group of elderly members who were clearly there just for the post AGM piss up. At a later date Trentham joined Race and yes, the members of the Race Board appointed by The WRC were the President and Treasurer who had overseen the club going broke. Then came the massive blunder of building the Conference Centre at Awapuni with no money as somehow, they managed to convince the BNZ to lend them $9M to build it with repayment to be made from the sale of residential property sections which were being developed at Awapuni. So, the Conference Centre was built just prior to The Global Financial Collapse after which they were unable to sell many sections and those that were sold only partially paid off interest with no principal to the debt. There was no way that the debt could be repaid from cash flow, so Race embarked on a mission of selling off assets mainly at Trentham to reduce debt which has been ongoing over the last 20 years. In addition to the debt, they continued to record trading losses to compound their problems. One disturbing point for me is that they were selling off property without it going on the open market. I stand to be corrected but I do not recall any of the Trentham property being listed onto the market. The beneficiary of the land sold at Trentham was Malcolm Gillies, a successful property developer who has done very well out of the deals. In fact, my understanding is that Race only owns the track and the stables. The inside of the course is owned by HIBS and Gillies owns the remainder One common denominator in all this has been Wayne Guppy the President of many years who is also the Mayor of Upper Hutt. A nice guy but must take considerable blame for the position that they find themselves. Their choice of CEOs had also been questionable with a number of ongoing blunders. Also, the committee with the exception of a few achieve little.  
    • Isn't betting important to racing? If Entain control the betting, it must be in their interests to see a prosperous betting market based on horse and harness racing do well. Bookmakers are a key part of the racing politics here as well - they sponsor big races and primarily the quality handicaps which bring in betting turnover and profits for them (and valuable revenue for the Government).
    • Wynne recovering after kick to head LOVERACING.NZ News Desk@LOVERACINGNZ   Samantha Wynne (Image: Race Image) Southern horsewoman Samantha Wynne is recuperating in Christchurch Hospital after sustaining serious head injuries in a horse-related incident on Saturday morning. Wynne, who relocated to New Zealand from her native Ireland more than a decade ago, has made Canterbury home, where she has been both a successful jockey and more recently a trainer. She had enjoyed a memorable season, highlighted by three Stakes victories with Pivotal Ten, who she rode in the inaugural $3.5 million NZB Kiwi (1500m) at Ellerslie in March. As she does on a regular basis, the 36-year-old had taken a team of horses to the track on Saturday but can't recall anything further after she was kicked in the head and taken to hospital, where she underwent surgery for a fractured skull and badly damaged ear. Her family, friends and colleagues were relieved to hear from Wynne on Monday after a couple of days resting in hospital. "I've been in hospital for the last couple of days and I'm feeling a little bit better this morning," she said. "I can't really remember what happened, but the girls filled me in. One of the two-year-old fillies wouldn't walk into the tie-ups and she ran backwards and kicked me in the head. It pretty much took my ear off and I've got a fractured skull. "I was knocked out for about five or six minutes and apparently when the ambulance came, I was fighting them because I didn't want to go to the hospital. Once they got me in, they gave me some good painkillers and I went into surgery that night. "I got my ear sewed back on, they removed fragments out of the fractures and pulled a bone out of my head. They had to make sure I had no brain injuries and I'm very lucky that I don't think I have. There is just a lot of swelling, but hopefully that will go down and the fracture will heal. "My partner has spoken to a lot of people and I've responded to a couple. I've been able to use my phone a little bit more today after being a bit too dizzy over the last couple of days." Wynne is very grateful to have the support of her staff. "I was hoping to go home today, but the doctors think it'll be tomorrow," she said on Monday. "I have to go for a hearing test later on and a couple of other tests as well. "I just feel upset and frustrated because I don't know what happened, but I'm grateful for the support I've had. "I'd be lost without the girls, I'm so grateful for them. They're just the best team that you could have. We're doing okay." The news comes during an extremely tough period for the New Zealand racing community, following the tragic passing of apprentice jockey Ngakau Hailey last Wednesday and fellow rider Triston Moodley also recovering from a kick to the head at the Waipa trials last Tuesday. 
    • I feel that Bet n Win is due for some bad luck. He's had it sweet last few starts and hasn't worked hard. Had everything to suit him. I feel that may change. Just my opinion of course.
    • There in all honesty has been a failure to understand and respect Rule of Law and the ins and outs of Legislation since Deregulation/ opening of markets and selling off of State Owned Assets in the mid 1980's. We put that down to the use of computers and EDS ( Electronic Data Services) Templates and Forms for all online leaving those expected to fill them out unable to do so in accordance with fundamental rights.   Remember the fiascos with INCIS? Then the most recent Census? It's one botch up after another by those controlling the Communications systems.   As an aside, you may be interested in locating and reading The life and Inventions of Thomas Edison, written by Dickson and published by Chatto as it's insightful about the wider Communications systems. What worked for years has effectively been reversed hence the screw ups.
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