crustyngrizzly 1,454 Report post Posted April 2 This Saturday Easter meeting at Ellerslie in 1952 my good friend rode the winner of the first division of the Great Northern Oaks on,CHICKADEE. To make things even better her stablemate Sobriane ridden by Grenville Hughes won the 2nd Division. Both trained by Jack McDonald. Chickadee was the Grand Dam of Dee Dee and Urupukapuka Black Kirrama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Bukowski 256 Report post Posted April 2 Who rode Chickadee crusty ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crustyngrizzly 1,454 Report post Posted April 2 4 minutes ago, Charlie Bukowski said: Who rode Chickadee crusty ? The same guy who trained the winner of the 1967 Manawatu Sires Produce Stakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tasman man 401 Report post Posted April 3 11 hours ago, crustyngrizzly said: The same guy who trained the winner of the 1967 Manawatu Sires Produce Stakes. Mannix......Des Riordan ?? crustyngrizzly 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Bukowski 256 Report post Posted April 3 Mannix ! What a freak he was , could have been anything. DJ Riordan , one of 3 brilliant jockey brothers. Up there with the Harris and Skelton brothers. Oh , those were the days. Was Mateland another of Des's champions ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crustyngrizzly 1,454 Report post Posted April 3 12 hours ago, Charlie Bukowski said: Mannix ! What a freak he was , could have been anything. DJ Riordan , one of 3 brilliant jockey brothers. Up there with the Harris and Skelton brothers. Oh , those were the days. Was Mateland another of Des's champions ? Sure was in fact he told me recently that one morning he galloped him on the out side of the TA course proper along with John on another horse and it was the fastest 800 he has ever been.Just got off the phone with Des and John was riding Paye Gold. Black Kirrama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Sparrow 366 Report post Posted April 4 Great memories reignited for me too there Crusty. I loved watching the Skelton brothers riding and the Riordans were the same. I remember going to watch Jocasta run in a juvenile race at Trentham (may have been the Wellesley or Wakefield maybe) with an American workmate of mine (Bill Oppenheim, now a world-renowned bloodstock analyst) after Bill had declared it a "certainty" (I had counselled him there were no certainties in racing). Bill had put a grand on it at $3. That was 10 weeks wages at the time. I think Noel Riordan may have ridden it that day. Anyway, Jocasta went clear at the furlong and looked home for all money. Bill was already heading for the tote when about 100m out a stupid bloke standing near the rail threw his tickets on the track and the wind blew them in front of the horses and Jocasta shied and crashed through the running rail. Noel was lucky he was not seriously hurt. When I turned around Bill was lying on the ground with his head in his hands having just seen $1000 disappear. Dee Dee and Urupukapuka were a couple of my favourites. dock leaf and Gruff 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patiti 234 Report post Posted April 4 20 hours ago, Charlie Bukowski said: Mannix ! What a freak he was , could have been anything Traced back to Eulogy and spent 10 years at Stud in Japan. Anyone know how he got on there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crustyngrizzly 1,454 Report post Posted April 4 12 hours ago, Patiti said: Traced back to Eulogy and spent 10 years at Stud in Japan. Anyone know how he got on there. From what i have read 223 mares served from 71/78 150 foals 119 registered 102 started 2099 races started in 66 individual winners 234 races won Last progeny horse raced in 84 Seem to recall he left Count Mannix in NZ a winner possibly for Ray Johnson. Patiti 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meomy 829 Report post Posted April 5 Skelton stories https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers?items_per_page=25&query=skelton&snippet=true Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insider 2,134 Report post Posted April 18 On 4/4/2021 at 12:42 PM, High Sparrow said: Great memories reignited for me too there Crusty. I loved watching the Skelton brothers riding and the Riordans were the same. I remember going to watch Jocasta run in a juvenile race at Trentham (may have been the Wellesley or Wakefield maybe) with an American workmate of mine (Bill Oppenheim, now a world-renowned bloodstock analyst) after Bill had declared it a "certainty" (I had counselled him there were no certainties in racing). Bill had put a grand on it at $3. That was 10 weeks wages at the time. I think Noel Riordan may have ridden it that day. Anyway, Jocasta went clear at the furlong and looked home for all money. Bill was already heading for the tote when about 100m out a stupid bloke standing near the rail threw his tickets on the track and the wind blew them in front of the horses and Jocasta shied and crashed through the running rail. Noel was lucky he was not seriously hurt. When I turned around Bill was lying on the ground with his head in his hands having just seen $1000 disappear. Dee Dee and Urupukapuka were a couple of my favourites. Was Bill Oppenheimer working in NZ at the time? If so doing what? I met Bill at Riccarton about then. He was in the company of Tim Langer, young Bloodstock Agent based in Christchurch who around the same time found and introduced Sir Tristram to Patrick Hogan and the rest is history. Good God that must be about 45 + years ago! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gubellini 3,057 Report post Posted April 19 crustyngrizzly Count Mannix won a Maiden race at Te Rapa on the 28/10/74 ridden by Ken Reggett for Kevin Old. Fair Man won twice in the SI in the 1974-5 season for West Melton trainer Mrs VH Harris. Maurice Thornley and Ron McCann won on him. Black Kirrama and crustyngrizzly 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drewandjo 121 Report post Posted April 21 Des Riordan.....my first boss in this great industry back in 1972 or 73 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bryce waters 31 Report post Posted April 21 1 hour ago, drewandjo said: Des Riordan.....my first boss in this great industry back in 1972 or 73 Paul Sugden or Lindsay Botting? drewandjo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie Bukowski 256 Report post Posted April 21 Paul Sugden , Ocean Monarch , won the New Years Day Highweight at Ellerslie ? Or was it Bonnybard winning the same race the year before or after ? Lance Douglas another apprentice out of the Des Riordan barn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drewandjo 121 Report post Posted April 21 57 minutes ago, bryce waters said: Paul Sugden or Lindsay Botting? drewandjo neither Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crustyngrizzly 1,454 Report post Posted April 22 16 hours ago, drewandjo said: neither Was the late Jeff Marsh and Chunky Jenkins. there then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crustyngrizzly 1,454 Report post Posted April 22 18 hours ago, Charlie Bukowski said: Paul Sugden , Ocean Monarch , won the New Years Day Highweight at Ellerslie ? Or was it Bonnybard winning the same race the year before or after ? Lance Douglas another apprentice out of the Des Riordan barn Gary Bell rode Ocean Monarch on both days to win at Ellerslie. Bonnybard won 1 race from memory for Des at Paeroa riddeb by Howie Mathews. Paul Sugden rode 1 winner i think and it may have been Sir Charlie of Doncast Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drewandjo 121 Report post Posted April 23 don't remember Jeff Marsh - Chunky yes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
