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I was watching a work gallop at the Newmarket (UK) course. Calyx (Kingman) was one of those horses. He was louder than a hurricane going past us. Why do we allow genetic mutations such as laryngeal Hemiplegia  to be propagated by standing stallions that have so seriously gone in the wind?!>! It is hereditary. So Coolmore don't give a shit and still stand the stallion. They should be banned from doing so. It just screws the breed.

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18 minutes ago, Berri said:

I was watching a work gallop at the Newmarket (UK) course. Calyx (Kingman) was one of those horses. He was louder than a hurricane going past us. Why do we allow genetic mutations such as laryngeal Hemiplegia  to be propagated by standing stallions that have so seriously gone in the wind?!>! It is hereditary. So Coolmore don't give a shit and still stand the stallion. They should be banned from doing so. It just screws the breed.

Couldn't agree more. I don't think Germany would allow it so why should this part of the world?

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On 4/25/2020 at 12:16 PM, Berri said:

I was watching a work gallop at the Newmarket (UK) course. Calyx (Kingman) was one of those horses. He was louder than a hurricane going past us. Why do we allow genetic mutations such as laryngeal Hemiplegia  to be propagated by standing stallions that have so seriously gone in the wind?!>! It is hereditary. So Coolmore don't give a shit and still stand the stallion. They should be banned from doing so. It just screws the breed.

Laryngeal Hemiplegia - Was this why he was retired? Are there any studies done in regards to it being hereditary?.... Not doubting your knowledge Berri.... Just curious 🤔

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On 6/28/2020 at 10:56 PM, Kingshill said:

Laryngeal Hemiplegia - Was this why he was retired? Are there any studies done in regards to it being hereditary?.... Not doubting your knowledge Berri.... Just curious 🤔

Its heritable.  Plenty of research work done

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Berri or others ...do you know.of any research for bleeding in mares being passed on, is it hereditary as I have a mare who won well at her first start but bled after and was retired. 
any thoughts.

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Dopey I am pretty sure the reply from the experts will be yes. I had a beautiful filly who won easily first up then bleed. All my research indicated the trait would get passed on.

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Horses like Storm Cat and his son Giants Causeway have kept some lucky vets in the manner they are accustomed to through wind ops. Bleeding is a slightly different issue as there are many instance where the environment might have something to do with the condition. I remember and article in the 80's where one of the leading vet clinics in Kentucky scoped a serious number of horses to see what bleeding occurred. Percentage was huge (65% comes to mind) of which a percentage of that outwardly bled. I can't remember seeing heritability being mentioned.

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13 hours ago, Berri said:

Horses like Storm Cat and his son Giants Causeway have kept some lucky vets in the manner they are accustomed to through wind ops. Bleeding is a slightly different issue as there are many instance where the environment might have something to do with the condition. I remember and article in the 80's where one of the leading vet clinics in Kentucky scoped a serious number of horses to see what bleeding occurred. Percentage was huge (65% comes to mind) of which a percentage of that outwardly bled. I can't remember seeing heritability being mentioned.

I remember when working in the stables that we taught two older horses to swim ( not taught at a young age), both open class gallopers,  and they both bled after - stopped swimming and neither bled again. 

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I once bred a good race mare who had her racing career stopped due to bleeding.

2 of her 7 foals had bleeding episodes.

Then later from one of her daughters (ie: the next generation and also a good race mare that didn’t bleed), 1 of her 3 to race has had a problem with bleeding. 

 

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So did you see the stewards report from the Caulfield Guineas? It was reported Kings Legacy had a "throat abnormality" then 4 days later.... what do you know stewards correct the report to say "there was no abnormality". 
 

How can the breeding industry exert this sort of undue influence like this?

 

Unreal.

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