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Pedigree Pattern Analysis of Key Sires with PER INCANTO Broodmares (Sweynesse, Ardrossan, Shamexpress, Burgundy, Time Test, Derryn) Objective: *Evaluate six stallions – Sweynesse, Ardrossan, Shamexpress, Burgundy, Time Test, and Derryn – whose progeny (from Per Incanto mares) are stakes winners /performers to identify common ancestors and recurring pedigree patterns within seven generations. Focus on direct sire lines, dam lines, damsire lines, and notable duplicated ancestors (particularly emphasizing influential sires’ *sons* and maternal lines). Five of the six stallions descend tail-male from Nearco’s line through Northern Dancer, reflecting the dominance of that sire-line in modern breeding. For example, Ardrossan (by Redoute’s Choice) and Burgundy (also by Redoute’s Choice) trace directly back to Danzig → Northern Dancer, while Shamexpress (by O’Reilly) traces to Try My Best → Northern Dancer. Derryn (by Hinchinbrook, a son of Fastnet Rock) similarly comes down from Danehill → Northern Dancer. Sweynesse is the one Nearco-line exception in that his sire-line goes through Sir Tristram (a son of Sir Ivor, from the Turn-To branch of Nearco). The only outlier is Time Test, whose sire Dubawi is from the Mr. Prospector (Raise A Native / Native Dancer) sire-line yet even Time Test’s pedigree is rich in Northern Dancer influence elsewhere (see below). In summary, five stallions carry Nearco’s blood via Northern Dancer in their direct male line, and one via Raise a Native / Native Dancer’s line (Mr. Prospector). 1. Sire-Line Origins and Notable Lineage Links For Per incanto broodmare stakes winners…. Direct Sire Lines: Five of the six sires descend in tail-male from Danzig (a son of Northern Dancer) through Danehill [1]. For example, Ardrossan and Burgundy are grandsons of Danehill (via Redoute’s Choice), Derryn is a great-grandson of Danehill (via Fastnet Rock), Time Test’s damsire is Dansili (by Danehill), and Shamexpress’s damsire is Volksraad (by Green Desert, another Danzig son). The one exception is Sweynesse, whose sire Lonhro traces to Sir Tristram (by Sir Ivor, a different Nearco-line) rather than to Danzig. Sweynesse’s pedigree isn’t devoid of Northern Dancer’s influence – it simply comes via other sons. Not unusual today. Sire-Line Highlights: Danzig’s Speed Influence: Ardrossan, Burgundy, Derryn, and Time Test all carry Danzig (through Danehill or Green Desert). Sir Tristram’s Influence: Four sires feature the Sir Tristram/Sir Ivor line in their pedigree, adding classic stamina. Sweynesse (Sir Ivor line) and Burgundy (out of Zabeel mare (Zabeel being Sir Tristram’s son), Derryn’s maternal great grandsire is Zabeel (through Lonhro), and Shamexpress’s second dam-sire is Grosvenor (by Sir Tristram). A repeated pattern of blending Danzig’s speed with Sir Tristram’s stamina in Australasian pedigrees. Outcross Male Line: Time Test stands out slightly – his sire Dubawi is from the Mr. Prospector / Raise A Native line. Yet, Dubawi himself carries multiple crosses of ND’s sons (e.g., Shareef Dancer, a son of ND) and Time Test’s dam is by Dansili (a Danehill son), so even Time Test is far from ND-free. He does introduce however a Raise a Native 8-f / Native Dancer male line (noting Native Dancer is the sire of Natalma) Direct Dam Lines: The tail-female lines (direct dam lines) of these stallions are varied, but certain elite female families recur: Best in Show (Family 8-f): A famous matriarch, Best in Show, appears in the damlines of several sires. Redoute’s Choice (sire of Ardrossan & Burgundy) is out of Shantha’s Choice, a granddaughter of Best in Show. Shamexpress’s sire O’Reilly is by Last Tycoon, whose dam Sex Appeal is Best in Show’s daughter. This means Ardrossan, Burgundy, and Shamexpress all carry Best in Show blood – in fact, Ardrossan and Burgundy each have two doses (via Redoute’s Choice and via their damsires as noted below). This pattern of line-breeding to Best in Show is a known successful mating strategy in Australasia. Natalma (Family 2-d): The Almahmoud/Natalma female line (family 2-d, which produced Northern Dancer) obviously surfaces repeatedly – often via Danehill’s dam Razyana. Ardrossan, Burgundy, Derryn, and Time Test all have Razyana in their pedigree (through Danehill / his sons). Additionally, Sweynesse’s dam is by Singspiel (whose dam Glorious Song is a daughter of Halo, from Almahmoud’s other branch via Cosmah), again tapping into Almahmoud’s family albeit through a different daughter. Per Incanto brings in Raise A Native (Native Dancer) and importantly Machiavellian is also from Natalma (by Native Dancer) own 2-d family, and also he introduces Halo from the same. Dam-Sire (Broodmare Sire) Lines: Looking at each stallion’s damsire reveals another layer of commonality: Sweynesse’s damsire is Singspiel (by Sadler’s Wells, ND’s son); Ardrossan’s damsire is Iglesia (by Last Tycoon, a son of Try My Best, who is by ND); Shamexpress’s damsire is Volksraad (by Green Desert, a Danzig son); Time Test’s damsire is Dansili (by Danehill, a Danzig son); and Derryn’s damsire is Lonhro (by Octagonal, whose damsire is Sir Tristram – not ND, but Lonhro’s sire Octagonal is by Zabeel, blending ND via Nureyev with Sir Tristram). In summary, every stallion here has a broodmare sire from either the Danzig/Danehill line or the Sadler’s Wells line, reinforcing the Northern Dancer-son theme from the dam’s side as well. The Sir Tristram influence also appears via broodmare sires: Burgundy’s damsire is Zabeel (Sir Tristram) and Derryn’s 1st dam sireline has Zabeel (via Lonhro). Shamexpress’s second dam-sire Grosvenor is another Sir Tristram son[2]. This means multiple sires carry Sir Tristram / Sir Ivor in the maternal grandsire position, complementing the ND-line paternal grandsires. 2. Repeated Ancestors & Line-Breeding Patterns (7-Generation Scope) Analyzing the seven-generation pedigrees reveals: Danehill: As noted, Danehill’s lineage is everywhere. Ardrossan and Burgundy are inbred to Northern Dancer – via Redoute’s Choice on top and via Nijinsky (another ND son) through granddam Dancing Show. This means they carry two different sons of ND up close as well as Best in Show. Derryn has a similar double via Fastnet Rock (Danehill) and his dam’s Zabeel (who brings in ND’s son Nureyev via Zabeel’s dam). Shamexpress is inbred to ND through Try My Best (via O’Reilly’s sire, bringing ND and Best in Show’s daughter Sex Appeal in one package[2]) and Green Desert (Volksraad’s sire, another Danzig son). Sir Tristram / Sir Ivor linebreeding: Many of these sires carry multiple instances of Sir Ivor or his sire Sir Gaylord. Sweynesse, Burgundy, and Derryn each have Sir Ivor – typically one via Sir Tristram or via Green Desert’s dam Foreign Courier (a Sir Ivor mare). Shamexpress has Sir Ivor via both Volksraad’s dam (Foreign Courier, by Sir Ivor) and Grosvenor (by Sir Tristram, Sir Ivor’s son). Best in Show and other elite mares: Close line-breeding to top female families is another pattern. The Best in Show family (8-f) is in Shamexpress (via Sex Appeal). In Ardrossan and Burgundy, Redoute’s Choice provides one cross of Best in Show (through Dancing Show, his granddam, who is out of a Sir Ivor mare Show Lady, herself a daughter of Best in Show). Still, these examples underscore intentional reinforcement of certain female lines. We’ve discussed Natalma (2-d) and Best in Show (8-f); another is La Troienne’s lineage (family 1-x) via Buckpasser – in Sex Appeal (Buckpasser’s her sire) and in Razyana (Buckpasser was her damsire). 3. Influence on Progeny and Breeding Implications The common patterns identified – heavy Danzig/Danehill influence, presence of Sir Tristram, and line-breeding to elite families – help explain why these sires have nicked well with Per Incanto mares: Per Incanto (Street Cry × Pappa Reale) – from the Raise A Native line - offers an outcross to Northern Dancer (Street Cry had no ND in 5 generations). His daughters bring in Mr. Prospector (via Machiavellian) and Roberto (via his damsire), with strong female families (e.g., Pappa Reale belongs to family 1-n. Common Ancestors & Performance: Ka Ying Rising (Shamexpress x Missy Moo) boasted an line-bred pedigree (to ND via O’Reilly and Volksraad, and Sir Tristram/Sir Ivor via Grosvenor and Ka Ying Risings third dam Her Dynasty) – and turned out an exceptional sprinter. Look at the best so far in KA YING RISING. He brings in: Try my Best line stallion (ND / Sex Appeal) from Best in Show)) Shamexpress dam sire line is Green Desert (ND/Danzig from a Sir Ivor mare) Shamexpress second dam sire line is Sir Tristram / Sir Ivor Ka Ying Rising’s First dam by Per Incanto brings in Raise A Native and Try My Best and Sir Ivor noting importantly that Machiavellian is also from Natalma’s (by Native Dancer) own 2-d family, and Halo. Second dam is Rhythm - a Raise a Native / Native Dancer line stallion who is out of ND mare, out of a Buckpasser mare. Third dam is by Sir Tristram / Sir Ivor Future Breeding Strategies: Breeders aiming to replicate these successes might look for: Sires with Danehill (to mate with Per Incanto mares) as that has clearly worked – especially those also carrying a hint of Sir Tristram or other outcross lines for balance. In particular, sires that carry the Natalma 2-d female line (through daughters like Razyana or Cosmah) could be gold with Per Incanto mares, since nearly all successful examples had that element. It’s a way of re-introducing Northern Dancer’s dam line to pair with Per Incanto’s Mr. Prospector/Roberto background. Continuing to line-breed to Best in Show or La Troienne in these matings could also be fruitful. For example, if a Per Incanto mare herself carries a strain of Sex Appeal or Buckpasser, doubling it via a sire like Burgundy (who brings Best in Show and Buckpasser) Given the success of Shamexpress and Sweynesse with Per Incanto mares, one might also consider sires from the O’Reilly or Lonhro lines – they combine ND-speed with Sir Tristram and could similarly click with Per Incanto’s line. Indeed, Special Swey (by Sweynesse) and Ka Ying Rising (by Shamexpress) were two of the best examples, hinting that line-breeding the Sir Tristram–Northern Dancer blend with Per Incanto’s outcross might be particularly potent. In conclusion, although each stallion has a unique pedigree, the analysis reveals a tapestry of interwoven bloodlines: Danehill (and thus Natalma’s family) is a dominant thread, Sir Tristram/Sir Ivor provides a strong weft, and elite broodmares like Best in Show add golden highlights. These commonalities likely contribute to the consistency and quality of stakes winners produced when these sires are paired with Per Incanto mares For Per Incanto broodmares, Key horses to duplicate in the sire are therefore: - Redoubt’s Choice, - Sir Tristram, Sir Ivor, - Try my Best, - Best in Show - Danehill / Natalma - Green Desert - Raise a Native - Buckpasser - La Troienne

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Out of interest Here is his stats with mares by different sires (best nicks) I really like this sire, dependable, durable, speed

Wrote the Upgrader….like Vlad the Impailer… did things the hard way from the ground up

Snitzel from my visit in august 2018. RIP

HY has provided some strength in front that not normally provided compared to most from the family. Per Incanto mum so speed but not early - this colt has some real class about him. I’ll be racing a good slice.