Kingshill

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Wouldn't it be nice to have 2yo races over 1600m in the second half of the season with a full field of runners - but with 4 runners in the 2yo race at Otaki today the aforementioned senario looks a long way away.

Sorry Ted.... You were correct. Saracino placed twice in group races as a 2yo before winning the Foxbridge.

I'm sure Saracino won as a 2yo.....

Was wondering the same thing.... Doesn't inspire a lot of confidence if wanting to patronise the stallion.... Highview might be able to enlighten us?

Red Rum.... Yes, I could have done more homework and was aware of the tie back operation as a 2yo... I was told she needed a good track and that seemed plausable looking at her winter form this campaign.... The tie back operation has obviously failed at some point....and I'm sure that it wouldn't have been on the float trip down the North Island,. No, have not made contact with the seller..... Gavelhouse are trying to on my behalf. If he's not talking to them I don't like my chances of a decent conversation.

Red Rum.... Yes, I could have done more homework and was aware of the tie back operation as a 2yo... I was told she needed a good track and that seemed plausable looking at her winter form this campaign.... The tie back operation has obviously failed at some point....and I'm sure that it wouldn't have been on the float trip down the North Island,.

There were four other fellow owners in the horse..... One G C O'Connor (Trackside presenter possibly?) These owners must have been aware that they were selling a suspect horse

Yes, same trainer.

Yes Puha.... Definitely a scope before payment next time.... Gavelhouse have been good to deal with, just annoying that someone "high profile" can dump on the little guy. No wonder racing has a hard time attracting new owners etc when things like this go on....

I'm still hoping the seller and his fellow owners will front up with a refund on this particular horse.... In fact I have a challenge for them..... If refund received I'll donate $1000 to the Catwalk Trust (my charity of choice) and will happily provide proof - So let's hope they come through and have something good come from this situation.

Sure is

Look up my Racecafe username in the results of the 5th August auction...... Seller/Part owner has also received a medal on behalf of the Queen

Have been landed with a horse that is not a racing proposition - After it was advertised as a "racing and breeding proposition" and needs a "good track" When I asked if it was sound for racing on I was told it was sound, but did have a tie back operation as a 2YO. Horse is sound in limb, but when scoped here at home it's left side airway is totally collapsed - so ex owner was "economical with the truth" Gavelhouse have been good but ex owner not returning their calls (suprise suprise) Doesn't look like I have a leg to stand on - due to not getting a scope within 72 hours - My only crime was trusting the seller too much. Come on ex owner - do the right thing - it's not too late - Horse is here, being fed and fully rugged up.

Levin breeders forum - Interested to hear more about it - heard about it years ago but didn't realise it was still going.