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    poundforpound got a reaction from LongOwner in An old story that came to nothing   
    What do you think did happen ? 
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    poundforpound got a reaction from Gruff in And you wonder why 97% of people loath racing   
    Just another thought .
    It appears many are cynical about AW tracks being the answer to industry problems.
    Based on our habit of “half fixing” our problems I tend to agree because they’ll almost certainly do it on the cheap, and cut corners ( although I’d support Strathayr 101% ) 
    So if AW is not the solution, what hope does the industry really have ?
    I can’t see any reason why punters will ever come back, nor will going to the races ever be fashionable again, and there are no obvious collateral business opportunities, you can also reasonably presume that government will turn their back on the game once Winston is gone, and that’s almost certainly going to happen next month.
    Where does that leave the industry, and the licensees ?
    Seems a bit grim to me 
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    poundforpound got a reaction from Midget in Celebrating four years of Inca   
    Lights Out.
    Re Salinger.....the RIU and their agents told me that and given that Salinger is very close to one of the RIU agents I believe them 
    Re the 10 million betting abnormalities.....never on one race, that’s not possible ....you might be confused with what Grimstone started investigating in 2016 which was Beirne using other people to bet for him across multiple international agencies because the NZ TAB had put a stop to his fixed odds punting... 
    The inescapable bottom line here is that after four years there is NO money trail and there are NO betting irregularities, except for a net $60 result in one race ( and that is the only race still under scrutiny ) ....the Police got so desperate trying to find betting irregularities they even started ringing high profile sports broadcasters asking them to help, front of camera men.....that’s how bizarre this has become......and they’ve still got nothing 
     
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    poundforpound got a reaction from Midget in Celebrating four years of Inca   
    And that’s the head scratcher everyone on my side wants an answer to.... why the Organised Crime Unit ?
    This is so far outside their described role .... 
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    poundforpound got a reaction from Midget in Celebrating four years of Inca   
    Someone just sent me a screen shot of an email from the RIU to the Organised Crime Unit the night before the dawn raids on all the stables where the RIU employee asks the head investigating cop “is it bad that I’m so excited about tomorrow?”
    I’ll name him when Inca is done and dusted .... 
    Mind you he’s not as bad as the RIU investigator who whilst knowing that the Equine Blood Solutions lab had been approved by the RIU ( because it was just centrifuged serum with an anti inflammatory protein in it ) proceeded to tell the head Inca investigator that two of NZ’s leading stables were “blood doping”...he named them, they’re both household names, and that “it’d be stopped soon”
    One of the two named has never used the EBS lab, never had a single blood processed there... not one 
    That’s a brazen disgraceful fucking lie right there by the RIU investigator and whilst I don’t have the full transcript of the lying bastards exchange with the Organized Crime Unit at my disposal I do have the cops summary of their conversation in front of me... and the cops claim ( based on the RIU investigators evidence ) that serum with Interleukin receptor antagonist protein in it is performance enhancing and thus a PED ... another fucking lie ... it doesn’t even have red blood cells or haemoglobin in it 
    I have another delightful example of how low the RIU will stoop here but I can’t describe it because the subject has name suppression but I can tell you that Mike Godber told me in a  one on one conversation that the RIU didn’t give a toss what happened in the criminal courts they were going to drive this household name out of the racing game forever because they just didn’t like him 
    Pretty average sort of behaviour by Godber right there 
    Should make a good story in about a months time I’d have thought  
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    poundforpound got a reaction from Midget in Celebrating four years of Inca   
    I’ve been told to stay quiet for one more month because Inca is nearly finished, done, brought to a screeching halt by the judiciary who’re said to be “over it”
    That said I think it’s important to keep this front of mind so we never forget this abuse of power, and that we ultimately make those who orchestrated it responsible 
    Here’s the time line and some relevant facts 
    1. September 2016 m, four years ago, Grimstone started the RIU investigation with the betting RIU analyst Payne after Kyle Salinger ( hope that’s spelt correctly ) decided to square the ledger with Graeme Bierne over his civil dispute by falsely narcing on most of the big players in the code 
    2. In January 2017 Grimstone extended the enquiry to include the RIU expert driving witness Nigel McIntyre
    Nigel is undoubtedly the worlds worst example of an expert witness having driven 8 winners from 170 drives in a 10 year career 
    To give that expert witness joke some perspective I can pick just 2 days from my modest riding career and combined they give me a total of 8 wins

    The following month in February the CHCH Press makes their first phone calls to various defendants asking for comments about pending “race fixing” charges ... RIU leaking badly already according to my sources 
     
    3. The Organised Crime Unit joins forces with the RIU to investigate transgressions allegedly so serious that the day all defendants are charged they have their driving and training licenses suspended, publicly, which is an outrageous breach of the court suppression orders and a clear case of guilty until proven innocent 
    4. The Organised Crime Unit decides to ignore their actual designated role of monitoring Mexican Drug Cartels, Commancheros bikie gangs, violent 501 deportees from Australia, and Brenton Tarrant ( who was busy in Dunedin at the firing range before his CHCH road trip ) so they can occupy themselves harassing hard working licensees, because they’ve been lied to by the narc, the RIU, and their advisers 
    5. The Police activate dozens of search and surveillance warrants in early 2018 after nearly a year of surveillance from Invercargill, Ascot motels, Mosgiel airport,  Forbury Park, following cars late into the night, half a dozen CHCH properties were under surveillance, various cars were bugged, telephones of all major players were tapped for 160 plus days, surveillance extended to Blenheim, the Manawatu, up to Auckland, hire cars and motels were bugged, back down to Cambridge ... for what ? for fucking nothing that led to a criminal trial ?
    6. So here we are now, I’ve traversed the entire period and avoided details ( they’ll follow next month ), we have one race left that’s still undecided by Judge Neave, and that race has no money trail, a net result of a $60 win, no betting irregularities ... and soon it’ll be gone west like the rest of these ludicrous claims 
    Meantime Neville Jenkins, the hopeless licensee Jenkins, he who drove Operation Blue Magic ( just two deaths there and four kids who lost their Dads ) is still stirring the pot claiming to the Organised Crime Unit that he knows of 7 other races that were “fixed”.... WTF would he know about anything involving winning races? ( granted he’d be an expert in losing based on his own record )
    Now I can’t say anything that might influence the judge because this is sub judice still, but I’d like some questions answered 
    Why listen to Kyle Salinger when he had a toxic agenda ?
    Why involve the Organised Crime Unit ?
    Why have they been unable to find any credible expert witnesses ?
    Why is this inquiry still going ?
    Is it true that the cost is over 10 million to date ?
    What reputations damage has it done to the industry ?
    What revenue has it cost the industry ?
    Why do they not have any money trails ?
    Why do they have no betting irregularities ?
    Why did the RIU accuse ( falsely ) NZ’s two leading stables of blood doping to fuel the fires of the enquiry and imply a large scale doping scandal ?
    That’s enough for today team, reflect on that and tell me which bits you disagree with 
     
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    poundforpound got a reaction from Robert Best in Celebrating four years of Inca   
    I’ve been told to stay quiet for one more month because Inca is nearly finished, done, brought to a screeching halt by the judiciary who’re said to be “over it”
    That said I think it’s important to keep this front of mind so we never forget this abuse of power, and that we ultimately make those who orchestrated it responsible 
    Here’s the time line and some relevant facts 
    1. September 2016 m, four years ago, Grimstone started the RIU investigation with the betting RIU analyst Payne after Kyle Salinger ( hope that’s spelt correctly ) decided to square the ledger with Graeme Bierne over his civil dispute by falsely narcing on most of the big players in the code 
    2. In January 2017 Grimstone extended the enquiry to include the RIU expert driving witness Nigel McIntyre
    Nigel is undoubtedly the worlds worst example of an expert witness having driven 8 winners from 170 drives in a 10 year career 
    To give that expert witness joke some perspective I can pick just 2 days from my modest riding career and combined they give me a total of 8 wins

    The following month in February the CHCH Press makes their first phone calls to various defendants asking for comments about pending “race fixing” charges ... RIU leaking badly already according to my sources 
     
    3. The Organised Crime Unit joins forces with the RIU to investigate transgressions allegedly so serious that the day all defendants are charged they have their driving and training licenses suspended, publicly, which is an outrageous breach of the court suppression orders and a clear case of guilty until proven innocent 
    4. The Organised Crime Unit decides to ignore their actual designated role of monitoring Mexican Drug Cartels, Commancheros bikie gangs, violent 501 deportees from Australia, and Brenton Tarrant ( who was busy in Dunedin at the firing range before his CHCH road trip ) so they can occupy themselves harassing hard working licensees, because they’ve been lied to by the narc, the RIU, and their advisers 
    5. The Police activate dozens of search and surveillance warrants in early 2018 after nearly a year of surveillance from Invercargill, Ascot motels, Mosgiel airport,  Forbury Park, following cars late into the night, half a dozen CHCH properties were under surveillance, various cars were bugged, telephones of all major players were tapped for 160 plus days, surveillance extended to Blenheim, the Manawatu, up to Auckland, hire cars and motels were bugged, back down to Cambridge ... for what ? for fucking nothing that led to a criminal trial ?
    6. So here we are now, I’ve traversed the entire period and avoided details ( they’ll follow next month ), we have one race left that’s still undecided by Judge Neave, and that race has no money trail, a net result of a $60 win, no betting irregularities ... and soon it’ll be gone west like the rest of these ludicrous claims 
    Meantime Neville Jenkins, the hopeless licensee Jenkins, he who drove Operation Blue Magic ( just two deaths there and four kids who lost their Dads ) is still stirring the pot claiming to the Organised Crime Unit that he knows of 7 other races that were “fixed”.... WTF would he know about anything involving winning races? ( granted he’d be an expert in losing based on his own record )
    Now I can’t say anything that might influence the judge because this is sub judice still, but I’d like some questions answered 
    Why listen to Kyle Salinger when he had a toxic agenda ?
    Why involve the Organised Crime Unit ?
    Why have they been unable to find any credible expert witnesses ?
    Why is this inquiry still going ?
    Is it true that the cost is over 10 million to date ?
    What reputations damage has it done to the industry ?
    What revenue has it cost the industry ?
    Why do they not have any money trails ?
    Why do they have no betting irregularities ?
    Why did the RIU accuse ( falsely ) NZ’s two leading stables of blood doping to fuel the fires of the enquiry and imply a large scale doping scandal ?
    That’s enough for today team, reflect on that and tell me which bits you disagree with 
     
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    poundforpound got a reaction from kilcoyne in Celebrating four years of Inca   
    Directly linked.....no......peripheral  for misdemeanors uncovered during surveillance ....probably yes......Matt Anderson being an example, however you need to ask yourself if the excruciating mental and financial pressure being applied by the Police and RIU is contributing to these secondary misdemeanors......and if the mental health of those being abused is in jeopardy as a result, which in turn leads me to suggest that if anyone takes their own life over this, as happened in Blue Magic, then the Police and RIU should be held accountable 
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    poundforpound got a reaction from kilcoyne in Matt Anderson: GUILTY   
    That’s why I’m asking ...... various versions are circulating and one version has it that the Police decided on the night of the incident that no charges were warranted.....but some time later the RIU got involved and these charges are the result 
    I simply don’t know, and I’m not accusing the RIU, I’m just asking for the facts rather than passing judgement like most on here 
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    poundforpound got a reaction from kilcoyne in Matt Anderson: GUILTY   
    Supporting Matt doesn’t preclude supporting his ex partner but you feel free to see it your warped way 
    You might also like to help us all understand exactly when Matt was charged .. on the night of the assault or some time later ?
    If later how much later, and who exactly laid the complaint with the Police ?
    Was the RIU involved in any way ?
    Did the RIU encourage the complainant to lay the complaint with the Police ? 
    If this was as described by the media would you agree that the Police must surely have acted to arrest Matt on the night ? 
     
    I don’t know the answers to the above questions but I’m sure you will
    Thanks 
     
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    poundforpound got a reaction from kilcoyne in Matt Anderson: GUILTY   
    Matt Anderson is a very interesting character 
    I certainly don’t condone what he’s allegedly done here, if it’s as described, but there are mitigating circumstances 
    When the RIU and the Police relentlessly and ruthlessly pursue an individual like Matt you often see their personal lives spin out of control
    Matt didn’t have what we’d describe as a normal upbringing and he doesn’t have the support most of us have
    To those of you who’re taking this opportunity to put the boot into Matt I say this, you’re low  and karma will get you eventually
    If you’re any sort of a decent human being you’d be reaching out to Matt and supporting him in his time of need, not putting a knife in his back 
     
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    poundforpound got a reaction from LongOwner in Matt Anderson: GUILTY   
    They both need support 
    This is a symptom of someone’s life spinning out of control and you need to ask what’s causing it .... no human can deal with this level of bullying and pressure for long and these people have had two years of it now, Police, RIU, and the inexorable grind of the associated costs and legal fees 
    That brings out the worst in anyone and that’s exactly what you’re seeing unfold here
    Those of you who continue these relentless attacks should be banned from this site under The Harmful Digital Communications Act  
    What are you going to do when you drive someone to harm themselves ? Blame everyone else ? 
    You’re all gutless cowards for behaving like this, and Majestic, you’re the worst 
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    poundforpound got a reaction from Baz (NZ) in And you wonder why 97% of people loath racing   
    Just another thought .
    It appears many are cynical about AW tracks being the answer to industry problems.
    Based on our habit of “half fixing” our problems I tend to agree because they’ll almost certainly do it on the cheap, and cut corners ( although I’d support Strathayr 101% ) 
    So if AW is not the solution, what hope does the industry really have ?
    I can’t see any reason why punters will ever come back, nor will going to the races ever be fashionable again, and there are no obvious collateral business opportunities, you can also reasonably presume that government will turn their back on the game once Winston is gone, and that’s almost certainly going to happen next month.
    Where does that leave the industry, and the licensees ?
    Seems a bit grim to me 
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    poundforpound got a reaction from Leggy in And you wonder why 97% of people loath racing   
    Just another thought .
    It appears many are cynical about AW tracks being the answer to industry problems.
    Based on our habit of “half fixing” our problems I tend to agree because they’ll almost certainly do it on the cheap, and cut corners ( although I’d support Strathayr 101% ) 
    So if AW is not the solution, what hope does the industry really have ?
    I can’t see any reason why punters will ever come back, nor will going to the races ever be fashionable again, and there are no obvious collateral business opportunities, you can also reasonably presume that government will turn their back on the game once Winston is gone, and that’s almost certainly going to happen next month.
    Where does that leave the industry, and the licensees ?
    Seems a bit grim to me 
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    poundforpound got a reaction from hedley in And you wonder why 97% of people loath racing   
    Just another thought .
    It appears many are cynical about AW tracks being the answer to industry problems.
    Based on our habit of “half fixing” our problems I tend to agree because they’ll almost certainly do it on the cheap, and cut corners ( although I’d support Strathayr 101% ) 
    So if AW is not the solution, what hope does the industry really have ?
    I can’t see any reason why punters will ever come back, nor will going to the races ever be fashionable again, and there are no obvious collateral business opportunities, you can also reasonably presume that government will turn their back on the game once Winston is gone, and that’s almost certainly going to happen next month.
    Where does that leave the industry, and the licensees ?
    Seems a bit grim to me 
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    poundforpound reacted to Pam Robson in And you wonder why 97% of people loath racing   
    Most I have spoken to are disgusted,  they think it is an unethical use of taxpayers money for a few greedy fat cats.
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    poundforpound got a reaction from Midget in Matt Anderson: GUILTY   
    They both need support 
    This is a symptom of someone’s life spinning out of control and you need to ask what’s causing it .... no human can deal with this level of bullying and pressure for long and these people have had two years of it now, Police, RIU, and the inexorable grind of the associated costs and legal fees 
    That brings out the worst in anyone and that’s exactly what you’re seeing unfold here
    Those of you who continue these relentless attacks should be banned from this site under The Harmful Digital Communications Act  
    What are you going to do when you drive someone to harm themselves ? Blame everyone else ? 
    You’re all gutless cowards for behaving like this, and Majestic, you’re the worst 
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    poundforpound got a reaction from Pam Robson in And you wonder why 97% of people loath racing   
    “ neither track can be used in wet weather “ !!!!
    And PGF finds cannot be used in a metropolitan area ... has someone moved Riccarton outside the city boundary ?
    FFS... who wrote that .. sounds like the RIU or Operation Inca blurb 
    How a Christchurch city race track bagged Provincial Growth Fund money - NZ Herald


    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12355055
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    poundforpound got a reaction from THE TORCH in And you wonder why 97% of people loath racing   
    What about the claim the industry loses 40 days per year due to weather
    Is that actually true ?
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    poundforpound got a reaction from LongOwner in Celebrating four years of Inca   
    And that’s the head scratcher everyone on my side wants an answer to.... why the Organised Crime Unit ?
    This is so far outside their described role .... 
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    poundforpound got a reaction from LongOwner in Addington Today. Woeful Crowd   
    It’s the RIU and Organized Crime Unit tearing your code apart .....destroying your credibility, your reputations......discouraging participants ......ask Neville Jenkins what he’s trying to achieve and when he’ll be happy ....his name pops up in the Police evidence as a driving force behind this self destruction 
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    poundforpound got a reaction from Hunter the punter in Matt Anderson: GUILTY   
    They both need support 
    This is a symptom of someone’s life spinning out of control and you need to ask what’s causing it .... no human can deal with this level of bullying and pressure for long and these people have had two years of it now, Police, RIU, and the inexorable grind of the associated costs and legal fees 
    That brings out the worst in anyone and that’s exactly what you’re seeing unfold here
    Those of you who continue these relentless attacks should be banned from this site under The Harmful Digital Communications Act  
    What are you going to do when you drive someone to harm themselves ? Blame everyone else ? 
    You’re all gutless cowards for behaving like this, and Majestic, you’re the worst 
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    poundforpound got a reaction from dkc in Matt Anderson: GUILTY   
    They both need support 
    This is a symptom of someone’s life spinning out of control and you need to ask what’s causing it .... no human can deal with this level of bullying and pressure for long and these people have had two years of it now, Police, RIU, and the inexorable grind of the associated costs and legal fees 
    That brings out the worst in anyone and that’s exactly what you’re seeing unfold here
    Those of you who continue these relentless attacks should be banned from this site under The Harmful Digital Communications Act  
    What are you going to do when you drive someone to harm themselves ? Blame everyone else ? 
    You’re all gutless cowards for behaving like this, and Majestic, you’re the worst 
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    poundforpound got a reaction from AndrewFitzgerald in Matt Anderson: GUILTY   
    They both need support 
    This is a symptom of someone’s life spinning out of control and you need to ask what’s causing it .... no human can deal with this level of bullying and pressure for long and these people have had two years of it now, Police, RIU, and the inexorable grind of the associated costs and legal fees 
    That brings out the worst in anyone and that’s exactly what you’re seeing unfold here
    Those of you who continue these relentless attacks should be banned from this site under The Harmful Digital Communications Act  
    What are you going to do when you drive someone to harm themselves ? Blame everyone else ? 
    You’re all gutless cowards for behaving like this, and Majestic, you’re the worst 
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    poundforpound got a reaction from Value Bell in Addington Today. Woeful Crowd   
    It’s the RIU and Organized Crime Unit tearing your code apart .....destroying your credibility, your reputations......discouraging participants ......ask Neville Jenkins what he’s trying to achieve and when he’ll be happy ....his name pops up in the Police evidence as a driving force behind this self destruction