Significant CD Programming Changes – 25/26 May

[MissJools 532]

 

While just over two weeks away, the centre of the course at Trentham is a Good2 and would require significant rain (50mm+) in order to safely hold a Steeplechase. The forecast for the next 10 days in Upper Hutt is largely for dry weather.

Consequently the four jumps races from Trentham on 25 May will move to Woodville the following day (26th). This includes the two feature jump races.

In turn four races – Mdn 2100m, Mdn 1300m, Mdn 2YO 1200m and R65 1200m will move from Woodville to Trentham on 25 May (all with relevant stake increases as they’re moving to a Feature Day).

[Zakhu 439]

Just a question, but could they have run the 2 hurdle races at Trentham on the Saturday and then run the 2 chase races at Woodville on the Sunday or logistically is that a bit silly?

[Leggy 4,159]

It also raises the question for me as to why they couldn't use pod irrigation to get the 50mms on the steeple course over the next 10 days?

[Insider 4,104]

Just as well they have decided to reverse their decision and keep Woodville for another few years, or at least until until the next venue review, otherwise they would really be in the shit.

As for putting more sand on Ellerslie, look what has just happened at the new Gold Coast course.

It all beggars belief.  

[Pak Star 743]

3 hours ago, Zakhu said:

Just a question, but could they have run the 2 hurdle races at Trentham on the Saturday and then run the 2 chase races at Woodville on the Sunday or logistically is that a bit silly?

Probably could have, but surely would have become an inconvenience for the already depleted jumps jockeys ranks to split over two days for a handful of races.

[We're Doomed 4,959]

5 hours ago, Zakhu said:

Just a question, but could they have run the 2 hurdle races at Trentham on the Saturday and then run the 2 chase races at Woodville on the Sunday or logistically is that a bit silly?

As Pak said, expecting the jumps jockeys to turn up to two meetings for one or two mounts at each is not a great idea.

[We're Doomed 4,959]

2 hours ago, Insider said:

Just as well they have decided to reverse their decision and keep Woodville for another few years, or at least until until the next venue review, otherwise they would really be in the shit.

As for putting more sand on Ellerslie, look what has just happened at the new Gold Coast course.

It all beggars belief.  

Woodville has basically been given the "fuck off, you're not wanted", followed very quickly by "Whoops, hold on a minute, not so quick".

Incredible arrogance really.

[Contentious 628]

Woodville does not have a figure 8 steeple course - it uses removable steeple fences on the course proper. 

So why can Trentham not use the same removable steeple fences on their course proper outside instead of running on the center figure 8?

 

 

[Insider 4,104]

4 hours ago, Contentious said:

Woodville does not have a figure 8 steeple course - it uses removable steeple fences on the course proper. 

So why can Trentham not use the same removable steeple fences on their course proper outside instead of running on the center figure 8?

 

 

Good question. 

[Crow 232]

22 hours ago, Insider said:

Just as well they have decided to reverse their decision and keep Woodville for another few years, or at least until until the next venue review, otherwise they would really be in the shit.

As for putting more sand on Ellerslie, look what has just happened at the new Gold Coast course.

It all beggars belief.  

Isn't Gold Coast a completely different track design? Ellerslie will become the best track in the country without a doubt. 

[Crow 232]

On 5/9/2024 at 4:55 PM, Leggy said:

It also raises the question for me as to why they couldn't use pod irrigation to get the 50mms on the steeple course over the next 10 days?

There's always one, everyone on this site moans about inconsistent irrigation and then you come out with something that would produce that and if you think you could get moisture through the profile with that little amount you're dreaming.

[Crow 232]

10 hours ago, Contentious said:

Woodville does not have a figure 8 steeple course - it uses removable steeple fences on the course proper. 

So why can Trentham not use the same removable steeple fences on their course proper outside instead of running on the center figure 8?

 

 

Why not Manawatu steeples never been figure eight before.

[Leggy 4,159]

2 minutes ago, Crow said:

There's always one, everyone on this site moans about inconsistent irrigation and then you come out with something that would produce that and if you think you could get moisture through the profile with that little amount you're dreaming.

That's the amount they suggested it needed. See the headpost.

[Crow 232]

7 minutes ago, Leggy said:

That's the amount they suggested it needed. See the headpost.

See that now sorry 50mm plus rainfall would be different if it got into profile to trying to irrigate 50mm plus. It normal takes 100mm of rainfall over a period of time to put moisture back into the profile once it's been\ so dry.

[Leggy 4,159]

1 minute ago, Crow said:

See that now sorry 50mm plus rainfall would be different if it got into profile to trying to irrigate 50mm plus. It normal takes 100mm of rainfall over a period of time to put moisture back into the profile once it's been\ so dry.

They had plenty of time to put on 100mm if that was necessary.

[Insider 4,104]

1 hour ago, Crow said:

Isn't Gold Coast a completely different track design? Ellerslie will become the best track in the country without a doubt. 

It might well be a different track design, but the problems seem identical. THIS WAS PUBLISHED DECEMBER 2023 before their big Day.

They the Gold Coast 5 months later [just like Ellerslie] and almost the same time frame, are suggesting that SAND is the answer to all their problems. 

I am not convinced Crow.

By Glenn Davis

The Gold Coast Turf Club is set to celebrate the highly anticipated return to racing on its new grass track this Saturday.

The Gold Coast’s main track has been out of action since January, undergoing a rebuild as a part of the Gold Coast tracks and lights project.

As a result, the club’s meetings have been held on the all-weather Polytrack throughout 2023.

Trainers and jockeys gave the new track a big tick of approval after barrier trials on the new grass were held last month.

Officials have given the Gold Coast time to recover from Saturday’s reopening with its next scheduled grass meeting on January 6 when it hosts the start of the Magic Millions Meeting.

As we both know know. I repeat, just like Ellerslie, they both think sand is the answer!  Yes it certainly is for a kids sand pit, but what else?

[Crow 232]

On 5/10/2024 at 8:11 PM, Insider said:

It might well be a different track design, but the problems seem identical. THIS WAS PUBLISHED DECEMBER 2023 before their big Day.

They the Gold Coast 5 months later [just like Ellerslie] and almost the same time frame, are suggesting that SAND is the answer to all their problems. 

I am not convinced Crow.

By Glenn Davis

The Gold Coast Turf Club is set to celebrate the highly anticipated return to racing on its new grass track this Saturday.

The Gold Coast’s main track has been out of action since January, undergoing a rebuild as a part of the Gold Coast tracks and lights project.

As a result, the club’s meetings have been held on the all-weather Polytrack throughout 2023.

Trainers and jockeys gave the new track a big tick of approval after barrier trials on the new grass were held last month.

Officials have given the Gold Coast time to recover from Saturday’s reopening with its next scheduled grass meeting on January 6 when it hosts the start of the Magic Millions Meeting.

As we both know know. I repeat, just like Ellerslie, they both think sand is the answer!  Yes it certainly is for a kids sand pit, but what else?

No, I suggest they are totally different as doesn't Gold Coast fly to bits, never seen that at Ellerslie where there is a slipping issue.

[Insider 4,104]

30 minutes ago, Crow said:

No, I suggest they are totally different as doesn't Gold Coast fly to bits, never seen that at Ellerslie where there is a slipping issue.

Whatever the difference is, both are suggesting that sand and even more sand is the answer.
Go figure everyone because I can’t.
Surely more sand isn’t the answer to both tracks, especially as you say the problems are totally different!

 

[Crow 232]

21 hours ago, Insider said:

Whatever the difference is, both are suggesting that sand and even more sand is the answer.
Go figure everyone because I can’t.
Surely more sand isn’t the answer to both tracks, especially as you say the problems are totally different!

 

Missed that where did it say they are adding more sand to Gold Coast track? All Metropolitan tracks in Aussie have sand added to them for the obvious reason.

[Leggy 4,159]

14 minutes ago, Crow said:

Missed that where did it say they are adding more sand to Gold Coast track? All Metropolitan tracks in Aussie have sand added to them for the obvious reason.

What? That's what they did isn't it? Made it worse.

A switch to the Gold Coast Poly Track, which has been the go-to back-up for Gold Coast racing since the flaws in the grass surface were so blatantly, and sadly, exposed in a sandstorm of excessive sand kickback at The Jewel race meeting back on March 9 was never an option for a feature race-day.

Having conducted planned drainage works and sand grooving immediately following The Star Gold Coast Magic Millions in January

[Crow 232]

12 minutes ago, Leggy said:

What? That's what they did isn't it? Made it worse.

A switch to the Gold Coast Poly Track, which has been the go-to back-up for Gold Coast racing since the flaws in the grass surface were so blatantly, and sadly, exposed in a sandstorm of excessive sand kickback at The Jewel race meeting back on March 9 was never an option for a feature race-day.

Having conducted planned drainage works and sand grooving immediately following The Star Gold Coast Magic Millions in January

Interesting approach

[Leggy 4,159]

6 minutes ago, Crow said:

Interesting approach

Yeahh and sounds like they are trying similar at Ellerslie.

[Leggy 4,159]

6 hours ago, Crow said:

Interesting approach

QTIS Jewel day.

[Crow 232]

20 hours ago, Leggy said:

Yeahh and sounds like they are trying similar at Ellerslie.

Ellerslie different as it has a fiber mesh in the sand to give it stability.

[Leggy 4,159]

20 minutes ago, Crow said:

Ellerslie different as it has a fiber mesh in the sand to give it stability.

So, the Gold Coast is a Strathayr with no fibre/mesh in the profile? Really? Did they forget to put it in?