JJ Flash 2,137 Report post Posted November 20, 2023 What a performance Alf Riston and Pegasus 9 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,710 Report post Posted November 20, 2023 The next Christian Cullen? Thejanitor, Value Bell and wph 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,137 Report post Posted November 20, 2023 55 minutes ago, chevy86 said: The next Christian Cullen? Only time will tell Chevy but running 2.535 as a 2yr old says he has some potential. Coming to Addington soon to take on the best so lets see wph and Thejanitor 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,231 Report post Posted November 20, 2023 Whoar, he (DRFree) got some serious wheels, and for all he was hard out to get there he didn't look tapped out, looked to be more there.....hope all goes well for him Cheers Iraklis Value Bell and JJ Flash 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Riston 1,555 Report post Posted November 20, 2023 Just did a little research after watching that very impressive performance, and this, although not a winning run was also eye opening! Looks a great talent - it will be interesting to see if any big money offers come in. https://harness.hrnz.co.nz/gws/ws/r/infohorsews/wsd06x?Arg=hrnzg-Ptype&Arg=RaceVideo&Arg=hrnzg-RacehdrID&Arg=9B102E39-4E9A-4506-B897-63ED3107EE23&Arg=hrnzg-rSite&Arg=TRUE Iraklis 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,231 Report post Posted November 20, 2023 Holy moly Alf, he's definitely got summit did yuh see how fast he picked em up? what's good is Williamson is so patient with him after his faux pas, just lets him bowl along, puts him in the right spot and boom...offers? bound to be.... Cheers Iraklis Alf Riston 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,137 Report post Posted November 20, 2023 42 minutes ago, Alf Riston said: Looks a great talent - it will be interesting to see if any big money offers come in. All declined thus far. Based on 3 starts it does need to improve its starting manners. Wont get away with it against better opposition but im sure Nathan will sort it out Value Bell, Iraklis and Thejanitor 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,231 Report post Posted November 20, 2023 JJ mate, declined offers so far well good on them, we need talented youngsters comin through to stay here, we gotta build up our depleted racin stocks somehow.....given Nathan's patience so far reckon he'll get to him..... Cheers Iraklis Pure Steel 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Steel 1,303 Report post Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Iraklis said: JJ mate, declined offers so far well good on them, we need talented youngsters comin through to stay here, we gotta build up our depleted racin stocks somehow.....given Nathan's patience so far reckon he'll get to him..... Cheers Iraklis The value of the horse will almost double you would think matey , should the older brother at Marks Win the NZ Derby next month . 'Don't Stop Dreaming'. you'd be crazy to sell the 'Dreams are Free' horse before that event is run , . Nathan's big sale a couple of years ago RAGAZZO MACH for $400 000-500,000 odd, had won 7 of 13 and only about $80,000 in NZ. so seems it may be best idea to sell -up if seemingly not capable of Group 1 success with that money offered. (Ragazzo only Won another 4 races and $70,000 in the Wild Wast Oz in 2 years there so far ) Lee270744 and Thejanitor 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Riston 1,555 Report post Posted November 21, 2023 7 hours ago, Pure Steel said: The value of the horse will almost double you would think matey , should the older brother at Marks Win the NZ Derby next month . 'Don't Stop Dreaming'. you'd be crazy to sell the 'Dreams are Free' horse before that event is run , . Nathan's big sale a couple of years ago RAGAZZO MACH for $400 000-500,000 odd, had won 7 of 13 and only about $80,000 in NZ. so seems it may be best idea to sell -up if seemingly not capable of Group 1 success with that money offered. (Ragazzo only Won another 4 races and $70,000 in the Wild Wast Oz in 2 years there so far ) Personally I'm not sure if the brothers performances would matter so much to the price PS. I think I metioned here before the Bill Horn saying,"once the blue lights go on their mothers can't help them", and I think this would extend to immediate family It's early days, but this horse is the biggest raw talent I've seen in a long time and I could imagine what job he could do towing around the Gary Hall colours @ JJ Flash - Sure he has a few tricks, but his ringcraft is bound to improve with time so that wouldn't worry me too much - once settled in WA , with his high speed capability - leads, wins, many times over ..... Thejanitor and Pure Steel 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Riston 1,555 Report post Posted November 21, 2023 Just watched the replay again to confirm what I thought I saw this morning first time viewing, and as suspected he did lock wheels with the runner inside when making good progress through the field. No black mark against his manners for that race JJ Flash and Iraklis 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Value Bell 253 Report post Posted November 21, 2023 I notice Nathan looking down quite often during the race. JJ Flash 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Riston 1,555 Report post Posted November 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, Value Bell said: I notice Nathan looking down quite often during the race. Noticed that as well - hiding his face, getting ready for the windburn ? Lee270744, Iraklis and Value Bell 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,567 Report post Posted November 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Alf Riston said: Noticed that as well - hiding his face, getting ready for the windburn ? He was looking down a lot In both races. I thought the driver was just nodding off as they were in such 'cruise mode', even when 50 metres last. Very impressive. Hopefully it'll run a few more races around NZ before vanishing as so many of them do. diesel, Alf Riston, Value Bell and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Riston 1,555 Report post Posted March 16 On 11/21/2023 at 6:24 PM, Alf Riston said: It's early days, but this horse is the biggest raw talent I've seen in a long time Well, after last night I really do think we are seeing as good a talent as we've had on these shores for quite some time. Behaved perfectly on his first look at The Park and won as he liked really against some pretty decent types. Only shock for mine was the $5.50 dividend Iraklis and Value Bell 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Value Bell 253 Report post Posted March 16 Who had a collect off Mantra? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Riston 1,555 Report post Posted March 16 45 minutes ago, Value Bell said: Who had a collect off Mantra? Somebody I know of, but not me sadly ... Value Bell 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Value Bell 253 Report post Posted March 16 So good to see Nathan get some good horses around him. Hidden Talent almost got to open class, Pembroke Playboy almost got to open class. Nathan deserves a shot at the top. Father Phil had nearly 10 years without a winner years ago until Role Model turned up. Alf Riston and Iraklis 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnyTom 1,542 Report post Posted March 16 The Williamson’s are the pin up team for professionalism and integrity in the racing industry. Through hard work and tremendous skill sets and a superb up bringing by Phil and Bev they are high achievers and deservedly so They earn their success and will be a force in harness racing for many years to come Tremendous folk Alf Riston, lamour, Iraklis and 2 others 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraklis 2,231 Report post Posted March 16 Well guys they got themselves a real beaut he's big banger for sure good on them, can't wait to see how he goes as he moves up the ranks....we just need to make sure he stays here... Cheers Iraklis lamour and Value Bell 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Steel 1,303 Report post Posted April 21 Today is the BIG Test for the horse. can he cut the mustard or not ? 'Dreams Are Free' is chasing the Group 2 glory in his home Southern area today in the 'Southern Supremacy Final.' If he is going to step up to older brother 'Don't Stop Dreaming ' quality and be a chance in Group 1's he should win this Race 5 today. Trainer/driver Nathan Williamson also has the 2 year old brother 'Always Dreaming' in the 2 -year old $100,000 race group1 Diamond Creek classic Race 8. Sure seems is a lot of Dreaming going on in NZ ? . he won't win that though as Mark has taken one down there to beat him (Rubira) . Nathan W is a great chance of taking out the great Southern Oaks (G2) with Allstars not in it though !! with 'Ruby Roe' . showing $2.60 sportsbet. Thejanitor and Alf Riston 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Value Bell 253 Report post Posted April 21 Nathan drove DAF cold. Never put DAF in the race until the finishing straight. Should have made a move from the 600. Thejanitor and JJ Flash 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Steel 1,303 Report post Posted April 21 50 minutes ago, Value Bell said: Nathan drove DAF cold. Never put DAF in the race until the finishing straight. Should have made a move from the 600. yes it was quite a quiet drive in the that with Dreams Are Free, Great drive by Nathan on Always Dreaming though, in the 2 year old Diamond Creek classic. Picks up a large 2nd place cheque and nearly Won it. so close..... Got going early after the 2 leaders finished their duel for the lead. and took over . then took a sit on the HOT Allstars favourite Rubira (BlairO) . Rubira held on by a nose , but Nathan didn't die wondering in that race anyway. (nor the Oaks lol ) Nice to see he still trained the Southern Oaks winner with his second string runner , driven by Matthew . Nathan caught parked out and dropped out. Value Bell 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Riston 1,555 Report post Posted April 21 27.2 last quarter off the front was going to make it tough. Has lost his way a little bit, but does possess high speed and will kick on with things I'm sure. Sale to a Big Barn still on the cards? Thejanitor and Pure Steel 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash 2,137 Report post Posted April 21 19 hours ago, Pure Steel said: Nathan caught parked out and dropped out. As ive pointed out before on here IMO he's a southern driver only who gets found out when the smarts are driving against him. Unless he has the best horse by far i don't touch his drives especially when he heads North. I might add he has a good eye for younger horses and can train them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
