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    mmmyb got a reaction from aquaman in Putting an end to rumours   
    It wasn't the riu that asked for he kibble to be tested.

    Dad requested it as it was the only common factor between the 3 kennels.
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    mmmyb got a reaction from aquaman in Putting an end to rumours   
    It wasn't the riu that asked for he kibble to be tested.

    Dad requested it as it was the only common factor between the 3 kennels.
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    mmmyb got a reaction from aquaman in Putting an end to rumours   
    It wasn't the riu that asked for he kibble to be tested.

    Dad requested it as it was the only common factor between the 3 kennels.
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    mmmyb got a reaction from aquaman in Putting an end to rumours   
    It wasn't the riu that asked for he kibble to be tested.

    Dad requested it as it was the only common factor between the 3 kennels.
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    mmmyb got a reaction from aquaman in Putting an end to rumours   
    It wasn't the riu that asked for he kibble to be tested.

    Dad requested it as it was the only common factor between the 3 kennels.
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    mmmyb got a reaction from Gary Sharp in Putting an end to rumours   
    Just to clarify.
    This is my account. Dad only posted once using this account as he doesn't have a racecafe username and wanted to say one thing.

    Regards
    Corey Steele
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    mmmyb got a reaction from Slim Shady in Putting an end to rumours   
    Sorry Scooby. The last bit was meant to be deleted as I couldn't word it right.

    By products I was going to mention.
    Vitamins.
    Biscuits

    above all produced by companies solely for the Consumption of a racing greyhound.
    So wouldn't you expect them to be clear of any prohibited substances as they would have knowledge of such .?

    Yes. It's our responsibility to take these dogs to the races free if prohibited substances.
    But the only time you really question the products your feeding your dog is when a positive swab comes back.

    I for one can't afford to get every product I give my 2 greyhounds tested. But should trust that the products provided manufactured for the sole consumption of the racing greyhound it should fit in with all drug rules our association and Australia have in place.
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    mmmyb got a reaction from punkrock in Putting an end to rumours   
    Johnnybooy,
     
    No one expects or even suspects there to be prohibited substances in a kibble formulated solely for the racing greyhound. Would you?
     
    Are you not glad that this has been picked up on the cause of the recent positives so other trainers can be aware when using it in the future?
     
    Everyone blaming someone or something?
    Well I don't think the trainers that have been found with the positives are purposely giving their dogs a prohibited substance, so no excuses, just reasons. two different words, two different meanings,
     
    What I worry, as a trainer myself, with your statements, is do we as trainers have to test every single product we provide our dogs?
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    mmmyb got a reaction from merv o brien in Putting an end to rumours   
    I do believe (as I've been informed) that the difference maybe for the horses (as I know it is thus way for greyhounds Australasia ) is levels of substances in the greyhound.

    We test for traces. Not the amounts in the system. Which plays the biggest part of the number of positive swabs in new Zealand.

    Minor traces don't have an effect on a dogs performance. But our system shows its their.

    The prohibited substance isn't of an amount to increase or decrease performance but enough to show its in the dogs system

    That is what we get penalties for.

    Traces. Not levels.

    (All as I've been told by trustworthy source)
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    mmmyb reacted to Slim Shady in strongest regions   
    Thought I'd just re visit this topic given that in recent weeks there have been some very nice young dog's coming through the ranks here in the North. My pick is in the next few month's the North will be close to, if not, the strongest region. We are already the strongest in distance racing hands down and by the look of some youngster up here at the moment the other two distances my be the North's too shortly. This Thursday we will all get to see a flying machine start it's racing career at Cambridge, trialled the house down there last week when easily breaking the 21 sec mark (20.86 for memory) so I'm picking that dog's got a huge future ahead of it.
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    mmmyb got a reaction from Slim Shady in Putting an end to rumours   
    Sorry Scooby. The last bit was meant to be deleted as I couldn't word it right.

    By products I was going to mention.
    Vitamins.
    Biscuits

    above all produced by companies solely for the Consumption of a racing greyhound.
    So wouldn't you expect them to be clear of any prohibited substances as they would have knowledge of such .?

    Yes. It's our responsibility to take these dogs to the races free if prohibited substances.
    But the only time you really question the products your feeding your dog is when a positive swab comes back.

    I for one can't afford to get every product I give my 2 greyhounds tested. But should trust that the products provided manufactured for the sole consumption of the racing greyhound it should fit in with all drug rules our association and Australia have in place.
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    mmmyb got a reaction from punkrock in Putting an end to rumours   
    Johnnybooy,
     
    No one expects or even suspects there to be prohibited substances in a kibble formulated solely for the racing greyhound. Would you?
     
    Are you not glad that this has been picked up on the cause of the recent positives so other trainers can be aware when using it in the future?
     
    Everyone blaming someone or something?
    Well I don't think the trainers that have been found with the positives are purposely giving their dogs a prohibited substance, so no excuses, just reasons. two different words, two different meanings,
     
    What I worry, as a trainer myself, with your statements, is do we as trainers have to test every single product we provide our dogs?
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    mmmyb got a reaction from punkrock in Putting an end to rumours   
    Johnnybooy,
     
    No one expects or even suspects there to be prohibited substances in a kibble formulated solely for the racing greyhound. Would you?
     
    Are you not glad that this has been picked up on the cause of the recent positives so other trainers can be aware when using it in the future?
     
    Everyone blaming someone or something?
    Well I don't think the trainers that have been found with the positives are purposely giving their dogs a prohibited substance, so no excuses, just reasons. two different words, two different meanings,
     
    What I worry, as a trainer myself, with your statements, is do we as trainers have to test every single product we provide our dogs?
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    mmmyb got a reaction from WhoKnows in Putting an end to rumours   
    Actually Greg, I was informed yesterday afternoon from the Riu that the kibble had returned positive to morphine and that they where scratching my dogs from today.
    I don't see why our dogs should be scratched when we are not the only ones that feed this kibble. The positives date back over 2 months now, all the trainers involved with the positives have been swabbed since with no more positive results. I can not see the justification in penalising us again. I have been using the product for at least a couple of years. I feel your inference of some other contamination in light of this result is quite unjustified. The kibble has been brought over different periods of time through two seperate retailers. Have you thought that maybe the manafacturers may have received a contaminated product ie wheat that inadvertently may have wild poppy seeds, maybe it is just the one batch, which would seem the most likely. If  every dog that has raced recently was swabbed maybe some other kennels may have been in this boat also. As I said not all of my swabs have been positive so may be some dogs have different excretion times than others. I thought this was the best result having the biscuits proven to contain morphine. At least I could save mine, Tracy's, Alysha and Arch's reputation as being honest as it is all you have in this game sometimes. Its obvious though that this is going to be just as stressfull and ongoing for a while yet. At this stage we may not even be allowed to race this week either. At least I can now see who my real friends are.
     
    Wayne Steele
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    mmmyb got a reaction from WhoKnows in Putting an end to rumours   
    Actually Greg, I was informed yesterday afternoon from the Riu that the kibble had returned positive to morphine and that they where scratching my dogs from today.
    I don't see why our dogs should be scratched when we are not the only ones that feed this kibble. The positives date back over 2 months now, all the trainers involved with the positives have been swabbed since with no more positive results. I can not see the justification in penalising us again. I have been using the product for at least a couple of years. I feel your inference of some other contamination in light of this result is quite unjustified. The kibble has been brought over different periods of time through two seperate retailers. Have you thought that maybe the manafacturers may have received a contaminated product ie wheat that inadvertently may have wild poppy seeds, maybe it is just the one batch, which would seem the most likely. If  every dog that has raced recently was swabbed maybe some other kennels may have been in this boat also. As I said not all of my swabs have been positive so may be some dogs have different excretion times than others. I thought this was the best result having the biscuits proven to contain morphine. At least I could save mine, Tracy's, Alysha and Arch's reputation as being honest as it is all you have in this game sometimes. Its obvious though that this is going to be just as stressfull and ongoing for a while yet. At this stage we may not even be allowed to race this week either. At least I can now see who my real friends are.
     
    Wayne Steele
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    mmmyb got a reaction from WhoKnows in Putting an end to rumours   
    Actually Greg, I was informed yesterday afternoon from the Riu that the kibble had returned positive to morphine and that they where scratching my dogs from today.
    I don't see why our dogs should be scratched when we are not the only ones that feed this kibble. The positives date back over 2 months now, all the trainers involved with the positives have been swabbed since with no more positive results. I can not see the justification in penalising us again. I have been using the product for at least a couple of years. I feel your inference of some other contamination in light of this result is quite unjustified. The kibble has been brought over different periods of time through two seperate retailers. Have you thought that maybe the manafacturers may have received a contaminated product ie wheat that inadvertently may have wild poppy seeds, maybe it is just the one batch, which would seem the most likely. If  every dog that has raced recently was swabbed maybe some other kennels may have been in this boat also. As I said not all of my swabs have been positive so may be some dogs have different excretion times than others. I thought this was the best result having the biscuits proven to contain morphine. At least I could save mine, Tracy's, Alysha and Arch's reputation as being honest as it is all you have in this game sometimes. Its obvious though that this is going to be just as stressfull and ongoing for a while yet. At this stage we may not even be allowed to race this week either. At least I can now see who my real friends are.
     
    Wayne Steele
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    mmmyb reacted to rollyb in Putting an end to rumours   
    While i get the fact that greyhounds (and horses) are to be produced drug free I would have thought that in a situation where there were mitigating circumstances such as this that there could be some discretion given around charging someone - there are a couple of rules that say 'shall be' either disqualified (as in the case of the animal) or guilty of an offence (as in the case of the person in charge of the animal).  In a situation such as this should the word be 'may be'?  (Rule 86 Prohibited Substances).
     
    I know this example happened a long time ago and in a different code but I seem to remember when a horse had won an Auckland Cup (I think) returned a positive and subsequently found to have been fed some contaminated feed - the horse kept the race.  I would think that the rules have changed a lot since then but thing like this can and do happen.  
     
    If something is out of the control of the trainer (or person in charge of the animal) then maybe some discretion?
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    mmmyb got a reaction from WhoKnows in Putting an end to rumours   
    Actually Greg, I was informed yesterday afternoon from the Riu that the kibble had returned positive to morphine and that they where scratching my dogs from today.
    I don't see why our dogs should be scratched when we are not the only ones that feed this kibble. The positives date back over 2 months now, all the trainers involved with the positives have been swabbed since with no more positive results. I can not see the justification in penalising us again. I have been using the product for at least a couple of years. I feel your inference of some other contamination in light of this result is quite unjustified. The kibble has been brought over different periods of time through two seperate retailers. Have you thought that maybe the manafacturers may have received a contaminated product ie wheat that inadvertently may have wild poppy seeds, maybe it is just the one batch, which would seem the most likely. If  every dog that has raced recently was swabbed maybe some other kennels may have been in this boat also. As I said not all of my swabs have been positive so may be some dogs have different excretion times than others. I thought this was the best result having the biscuits proven to contain morphine. At least I could save mine, Tracy's, Alysha and Arch's reputation as being honest as it is all you have in this game sometimes. Its obvious though that this is going to be just as stressfull and ongoing for a while yet. At this stage we may not even be allowed to race this week either. At least I can now see who my real friends are.
     
    Wayne Steele
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    mmmyb got a reaction from WhoKnows in Putting an end to rumours   
    Actually Greg, I was informed yesterday afternoon from the Riu that the kibble had returned positive to morphine and that they where scratching my dogs from today.
    I don't see why our dogs should be scratched when we are not the only ones that feed this kibble. The positives date back over 2 months now, all the trainers involved with the positives have been swabbed since with no more positive results. I can not see the justification in penalising us again. I have been using the product for at least a couple of years. I feel your inference of some other contamination in light of this result is quite unjustified. The kibble has been brought over different periods of time through two seperate retailers. Have you thought that maybe the manafacturers may have received a contaminated product ie wheat that inadvertently may have wild poppy seeds, maybe it is just the one batch, which would seem the most likely. If  every dog that has raced recently was swabbed maybe some other kennels may have been in this boat also. As I said not all of my swabs have been positive so may be some dogs have different excretion times than others. I thought this was the best result having the biscuits proven to contain morphine. At least I could save mine, Tracy's, Alysha and Arch's reputation as being honest as it is all you have in this game sometimes. Its obvious though that this is going to be just as stressfull and ongoing for a while yet. At this stage we may not even be allowed to race this week either. At least I can now see who my real friends are.
     
    Wayne Steele
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    mmmyb got a reaction from WhoKnows in Putting an end to rumours   
    Actually Greg, I was informed yesterday afternoon from the Riu that the kibble had returned positive to morphine and that they where scratching my dogs from today.
    I don't see why our dogs should be scratched when we are not the only ones that feed this kibble. The positives date back over 2 months now, all the trainers involved with the positives have been swabbed since with no more positive results. I can not see the justification in penalising us again. I have been using the product for at least a couple of years. I feel your inference of some other contamination in light of this result is quite unjustified. The kibble has been brought over different periods of time through two seperate retailers. Have you thought that maybe the manafacturers may have received a contaminated product ie wheat that inadvertently may have wild poppy seeds, maybe it is just the one batch, which would seem the most likely. If  every dog that has raced recently was swabbed maybe some other kennels may have been in this boat also. As I said not all of my swabs have been positive so may be some dogs have different excretion times than others. I thought this was the best result having the biscuits proven to contain morphine. At least I could save mine, Tracy's, Alysha and Arch's reputation as being honest as it is all you have in this game sometimes. Its obvious though that this is going to be just as stressfull and ongoing for a while yet. At this stage we may not even be allowed to race this week either. At least I can now see who my real friends are.
     
    Wayne Steele
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    mmmyb got a reaction from WhoKnows in Putting an end to rumours   
    Actually Greg, I was informed yesterday afternoon from the Riu that the kibble had returned positive to morphine and that they where scratching my dogs from today.
    I don't see why our dogs should be scratched when we are not the only ones that feed this kibble. The positives date back over 2 months now, all the trainers involved with the positives have been swabbed since with no more positive results. I can not see the justification in penalising us again. I have been using the product for at least a couple of years. I feel your inference of some other contamination in light of this result is quite unjustified. The kibble has been brought over different periods of time through two seperate retailers. Have you thought that maybe the manafacturers may have received a contaminated product ie wheat that inadvertently may have wild poppy seeds, maybe it is just the one batch, which would seem the most likely. If  every dog that has raced recently was swabbed maybe some other kennels may have been in this boat also. As I said not all of my swabs have been positive so may be some dogs have different excretion times than others. I thought this was the best result having the biscuits proven to contain morphine. At least I could save mine, Tracy's, Alysha and Arch's reputation as being honest as it is all you have in this game sometimes. Its obvious though that this is going to be just as stressfull and ongoing for a while yet. At this stage we may not even be allowed to race this week either. At least I can now see who my real friends are.
     
    Wayne Steele
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    mmmyb got a reaction from WhoKnows in Putting an end to rumours   
    Actually Greg, I was informed yesterday afternoon from the Riu that the kibble had returned positive to morphine and that they where scratching my dogs from today.
    I don't see why our dogs should be scratched when we are not the only ones that feed this kibble. The positives date back over 2 months now, all the trainers involved with the positives have been swabbed since with no more positive results. I can not see the justification in penalising us again. I have been using the product for at least a couple of years. I feel your inference of some other contamination in light of this result is quite unjustified. The kibble has been brought over different periods of time through two seperate retailers. Have you thought that maybe the manafacturers may have received a contaminated product ie wheat that inadvertently may have wild poppy seeds, maybe it is just the one batch, which would seem the most likely. If  every dog that has raced recently was swabbed maybe some other kennels may have been in this boat also. As I said not all of my swabs have been positive so may be some dogs have different excretion times than others. I thought this was the best result having the biscuits proven to contain morphine. At least I could save mine, Tracy's, Alysha and Arch's reputation as being honest as it is all you have in this game sometimes. Its obvious though that this is going to be just as stressfull and ongoing for a while yet. At this stage we may not even be allowed to race this week either. At least I can now see who my real friends are.
     
    Wayne Steele
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    mmmyb got a reaction from WhoKnows in Putting an end to rumours   
    Actually Greg, I was informed yesterday afternoon from the Riu that the kibble had returned positive to morphine and that they where scratching my dogs from today.
    I don't see why our dogs should be scratched when we are not the only ones that feed this kibble. The positives date back over 2 months now, all the trainers involved with the positives have been swabbed since with no more positive results. I can not see the justification in penalising us again. I have been using the product for at least a couple of years. I feel your inference of some other contamination in light of this result is quite unjustified. The kibble has been brought over different periods of time through two seperate retailers. Have you thought that maybe the manafacturers may have received a contaminated product ie wheat that inadvertently may have wild poppy seeds, maybe it is just the one batch, which would seem the most likely. If  every dog that has raced recently was swabbed maybe some other kennels may have been in this boat also. As I said not all of my swabs have been positive so may be some dogs have different excretion times than others. I thought this was the best result having the biscuits proven to contain morphine. At least I could save mine, Tracy's, Alysha and Arch's reputation as being honest as it is all you have in this game sometimes. Its obvious though that this is going to be just as stressfull and ongoing for a while yet. At this stage we may not even be allowed to race this week either. At least I can now see who my real friends are.
     
    Wayne Steele
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    mmmyb got a reaction from WhoKnows in Putting an end to rumours   
    Actually Greg, I was informed yesterday afternoon from the Riu that the kibble had returned positive to morphine and that they where scratching my dogs from today.
    I don't see why our dogs should be scratched when we are not the only ones that feed this kibble. The positives date back over 2 months now, all the trainers involved with the positives have been swabbed since with no more positive results. I can not see the justification in penalising us again. I have been using the product for at least a couple of years. I feel your inference of some other contamination in light of this result is quite unjustified. The kibble has been brought over different periods of time through two seperate retailers. Have you thought that maybe the manafacturers may have received a contaminated product ie wheat that inadvertently may have wild poppy seeds, maybe it is just the one batch, which would seem the most likely. If  every dog that has raced recently was swabbed maybe some other kennels may have been in this boat also. As I said not all of my swabs have been positive so may be some dogs have different excretion times than others. I thought this was the best result having the biscuits proven to contain morphine. At least I could save mine, Tracy's, Alysha and Arch's reputation as being honest as it is all you have in this game sometimes. Its obvious though that this is going to be just as stressfull and ongoing for a while yet. At this stage we may not even be allowed to race this week either. At least I can now see who my real friends are.
     
    Wayne Steele
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    mmmyb got a reaction from WhoKnows in Putting an end to rumours   
    Actually Greg, I was informed yesterday afternoon from the Riu that the kibble had returned positive to morphine and that they where scratching my dogs from today.
    I don't see why our dogs should be scratched when we are not the only ones that feed this kibble. The positives date back over 2 months now, all the trainers involved with the positives have been swabbed since with no more positive results. I can not see the justification in penalising us again. I have been using the product for at least a couple of years. I feel your inference of some other contamination in light of this result is quite unjustified. The kibble has been brought over different periods of time through two seperate retailers. Have you thought that maybe the manafacturers may have received a contaminated product ie wheat that inadvertently may have wild poppy seeds, maybe it is just the one batch, which would seem the most likely. If  every dog that has raced recently was swabbed maybe some other kennels may have been in this boat also. As I said not all of my swabs have been positive so may be some dogs have different excretion times than others. I thought this was the best result having the biscuits proven to contain morphine. At least I could save mine, Tracy's, Alysha and Arch's reputation as being honest as it is all you have in this game sometimes. Its obvious though that this is going to be just as stressfull and ongoing for a while yet. At this stage we may not even be allowed to race this week either. At least I can now see who my real friends are.
     
    Wayne Steele