2020 Cox Plate field.....

[Ohokaman]

What are they thinking ???? A R64 3 year old gets in ahead of International Buckhurst....?????  Did they think 4 was enough...?!

2020 COX PLATE (2040m)

Saturday, October 24 - TAB prices

1 - Kolding (10) 59kg - $17

2 - Humidor (14) 59kg - $26

3 - Fierce Impact (12) 59kg - $26 

4 - Master Of Wine (1) 59kg - $26

5 - Mugatoo (9) 59kg - $26

6 - Aspetar (3) 59kg - $13

7 - Sir Dragonet (7) 59kg - $9

8 - Magic Wand (4) 57kg - $21

9 - Arcadia Queen (8) 57kg - $5

10 - Nettoyer (13) 57kg - $201

11 - Russian Camelot (15) 57kg - $4

12 - Armory (6) 56.5kg - $6

13 - Probabeel (2) 55.5kg - $13

14 - Grandslam (5) 49.5kg - $26

15 (em) - Buckhurst (11) 59kg - $26

[Ohokaman]

And Williams camp ain’t happy either...don’t blame them.

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/lloyd-and-nick-williams-fuming-after-buckhurst-misses-out-on-cox-plate-chance-20201019

[Gruff]

You have to like Grandslams pedigree but really  

Does C B Mckenna carry more clout than the Williams at Moonee Valley ?

[Ohokaman]

1 hour ago, Gruff said:

You have to like Grandslams pedigree but really  

Does C B Mckenna carry more clout than the Williams at Moonee Valley ?

$200,000 late entry fee probably helped.....

[Red Rum]

Best form guide race for this is Armoury's 2nd in the Group 1 2019 Criterium International  at Longchamp , a gallant effort to place .

[Trump]

Remember the maiden winning? Shamus Award? The handicapper and selectors are always right. 

[Ohokaman]

34 minutes ago, Trump said:

Remember the maiden winning? Shamus Award? The handicapper and selectors are always right. 

Of course they are.....Because the Chairman “likes to see a 3 year old in it...” 

If that thing wins the Cox Plate as a prestigious race is finished.

[Gruff]

43 minutes ago, Ohokaman said:

Of course they are.....Because the Chairman “likes to see a 3 year old in it...” 

If that thing wins the Cox Plate as a prestigious race is finished.

Jameka won the oaks with a leg in the air, if Maher sees ‘that thing’ as  a realistic chance with 200k to back it up you need to take notice, get your Cox/ Derby doubles on now 

[Ohokaman]

11 minutes ago, Gruff said:

Jameka won the oaks with a leg in the air, if Maher sees ‘that thing’ as  a realistic chance with 200k to back it up you need to take notice, get your Cox/ Derby doubles on now 

You go for it, picking losers is a hobby.....

[Gruff]

5 minutes ago, Ohokaman said:

You go for it, picking losers is a hobby.....

For most in this game 

and im sure your no exception 

[Trump]

I think Team Williams have every right to feel hard done by. By any measure of current form or results over the last 12 - 18 months, Buckhurst deserved to be ahead of a couple or more (including Grandslam), but thank goodness Buckhurst is not kiwi owned and trained - the stink would be unbearable! Realistically, I think I’ve got it nabbed in 3 picks and look forward to Sat. 

[scoobysnacks]

2 hours ago, Ohokaman said:

Of course they are.....Because the Chairman “likes to see a 3 year old in it...” 

If that thing wins the Cox Plate as a prestigious race is finished.

But Shamus Award won it, having never won a race prior. 

So the Cox Plate was finished after that?

[Ohokaman]

1 hour ago, NextPlease said:

But Shamus Award won it, having never won a race prior. 

So the Cox Plate was finished after that?

Shamus ran and placed in 8 Group and Listed races before the Cox Plate.....Grandslam has won a 2 year old race in Adelaide.

No difference there then......

[scoobysnacks]

Sure, but the addition of a 3YO adds interest - as opposed to yet another European that no one has heard of.

[Gruff]

2 hours ago, Ohokaman said:

Shamus ran and placed in 8 Group and Listed races before the Cox Plate.....Grandslam has won a 2 year old race in Adelaide.

No difference there then......

The Bookies have Grandslam at a similar quote to Shamus Award in 2013. 

Someones way off the mark here and i cant see it being the  Bookies or Maher and Eustace  

[stodge]

14 hours ago, Red Rum said:

Best form guide race for this is Armoury's 2nd in the Group 1 2019 Criterium International  at Longchamp , a gallant effort to place .

He was beaten 20 lengths in a match race on bottomless ground. He's better judged on his third to VICTOR LUDORUM in the Jean-Luc Lagardere last year and on his most recent effort when third to MAGICAL in the Irish Champion finishing in front of subsequent Arc winner SOTTSASS.

I'm not convinced - quick ground and Australia might be the making of him. I'd prefer him to SIR DRAGONET who looks a bit of a dodgepot as we say up here. ASPETAR is rated 116 and if that's good enough to win a Cox Plate, the Aussies and Kiwis are in a world of trouble. ASPETAR won a Group 2 at York last time but had to go to Germany to find a Group 1.

MAGIC WAND has a huge chance if you forgive her last effort which was dismal. The earlier Eclipse fourth was decent and the Nassau fifth okay. She was fourth in the Cox Plate last year and beat a certain MELODY BELLE in the MacKinnon so if she brings her best form doesn't she win the Cox Plate or go very close?

[Maximus]

Have to say this year's Cox Plate is underwhelming. Would have preferred to see Verry Ellegant tackle this race rather than Caulfield Cup. Her turn of foot and ability to make ground while cornering would have been dynamite at MV.

[Houlahan's Dream]

Agree Weasel. Lacks the pzazzz....Probabeel, Humidor, Magic Wand and Armory (perhaps) for mine. 

[stodge]

Both MAGIC WAND and ARMORY have to overcome slight injuries to run on Saturday but the former's foot abscess is more serious. A second veterinary inspection on Friday morning (Aus) will determine if the two O'Brien runners are cleared to race.

[Ohokaman]

11 hours ago, stodge said:

Both MAGIC WAND and ARMORY have to overcome slight injuries to run on Saturday but the former's foot abscess is more serious. A second veterinary inspection on Friday morning (Aus) will determine if the two O'Brien runners are cleared to race.

Magic Wand out. Buckhurst in. No doubt Williams camp is happy. Lot of rain forecast there which could upset a few tonight and tomorrow.

[Houlahan's Dream]

Keep coming back to Humidor. He's drawn out but if the rains come, that won't matter. Loves this race. Seems to be in very good form and at 21s perhaps represents value. 

[Ohokaman]

On 10/20/2020 at 10:55 PM, Gruff said:

The Bookies have Grandslam at a similar quote to Shamus Award in 2013. 

Someones way off the mark here and i cant see it being the  Bookies or Maher and Eustace  

Any more words of wisdom ?? 

[Gruff]

Didnt like it Hokesy,after reviewing some video how could you 

Interesting rides on Slam and Probabee l, dont reckon the connections would of been that excited at the 800

[Red Rum]

8 minutes ago, Gruff said:

Didnt like it Hokesy,after reviewing some video how could you 

Interesting rides on Slam and Probabee l, dont reckon the connections would of been that excited at the 800

They could have put those two in horsefloats  and drove them round track  , they still not beating  the first two from up North . Placed Listed Royal Ascot form good enough this year , let alone a group race up  there. 

[Breeder]

Great win by the winner. I'm not up to date with the riding rules in Aussie but will the stipes have a go at Glen Boss for his celebrations before the finish line?