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Not espousing everything good about AUSSIE, I’m trying to explain to you that MM, Everest etc has lit a firecracker and its having a positive effect on funding across Country Racing as well. Everybody seems to want change in NZ, even the most powerful Stable in NZ came out and demanded change. You’ve gone from bagging the KM type races, the ARC and now you can’t see what I’m telling exactly what you say yourself. Racing NZ needs to support Country racing, one off carnivals and get the betting platform and distribution of stakes right - from the top end to the bottom end. Racing NZ has been undermined imho by failure at Admin level. There’s been no Driver. Good luck. Look to Aust racing and learn what can be done. Therea no better example of what can be done with the right leadership and drive.

Huey, you are living in the past. You probably still use pen and paper, or perhaps graduated to a typewriter? Old habits die hard. Mine is still to sit down with a copy of The Australian and read it while enjoying my freshly grounded Vittoria Coffee Bean homemade coffee. I do this even though I’ve read every good news story earlier - from my iPhone. As I say, old habits I understand 100% where you’re coming from, I really do. I used to love going to the Feilding races. They are still going strong but at Awapuni. They wouldn’t have survived if they’d stayed at their Feilding track. But mate, keep the tradition but move with times. That’s what’s holding NZ Racing back. It’s a bit like Ireland. A good btreeding ground but most of the good horses racing offshore for the big $. Going to the races at The Curragh reminded me of going to Trentham. Great tracks - old and poor amenities. Enjoy your racing.

Then why didn’t Avondale merge with Auckland when the opportunity came. Golf Clubs merge, race clubs merge, football clubs merge etc. By not merging, the ones that suffered were the Members. Their main races are held at Ellerslie now anyway.

You only have to see the success of the Magic Millions, Everest, Kosciusko, All Stars Mile, etc and get a lesson. They are lauded by the entire Aust Racing Industry. Support for these types of races (Qld govt sunk about $35m into MM on the Gold Coast for stakes) is massive, the public interest is massive, course attendance is massive. At this years Gold Coast MM, the Skyline Lounge dining lounge was $750 per person ( normal Sat about $150) and it sold out within a couple of hours bookings opened. These races drag the races up to another level and pressure stakes increases in all races behind them. The $5m All Star Mile was born because of the Everest. Originally, the VRC were pissed off but it forced them to get of their lazy butts and stop poncing around like prims thinking they are racing’s leaders. V’Landys showed them they weren’t. Racing is better for it and it’s caused stakes increases at every level. And Mr Burrows, Specsavers may be your next best move if you can’t see that this is the root cause of NZ racing being under pressure. It’s treading water and knocking ARC is definitely not the answer. The races behind these KM type races need lifting as do all the other races down to maidens. That’s NZ’s problem. Many suggest and are agreed with that there’s been a lotta $ wasted by the Bodies, but it certainly can’t be at Auckland. I would be embracing the KM concept and force Stakes up elsewhere. Imagine if the G1Sires Produce was worth $1m. Would that be a target? NZ has an underlying huge Stakes issue (amongst others!). The Australian Racing Industry scattered among so many State Jurisdictions had similar problems until V’Landys lit the firecracker. All the others got off their arses and racing is now surging ahead. Even Racecafe runs its best comps by incl Aust racing. Have a look at the Golden Slipper meeting. What a beauty. No Winx but new stars and plenty of $ and interest on offer! Mr Burrows you need to move into the future. The KM type races should be the catalyst for raising the bar across the Board in NZ. But this can only happen with support from Racing NZ, Govt and the Industry itself. The fact that you see the sweepstakes as “The Main Gripe”, shows you don’t get it and are living in the past. Someone like yourself, a passionate racing man with skin the game, should see the Aussie example and embrace it. Get out of your WRC suit and open your eyes or races like the 2yo Wakefield will really lose all its status. Major change is needed in NZ - everyone knows that. ARC, Sweepstakes Races etc have not caused these need for change. A combination of bad management and poor decision making at a high level has been the major cause.

You talk crap and fail to recognise they are the best managed Club by far in NZ. Their retention of land for long term benefit should be applauded. Unlike many other Clubs who have not had the same long term vision. They have made mistakes sure - but that’s what people in action do, in business or sport, because they are doing things with that long term vision. you need to see that for your own good. They have tried to join up with Avondale, they supported Counties financially and what have they got from them? Nothing because they have got little to offer and paddle their own selfish canoe. ARC will be operating long after you and I are gone because they have a vision, and going by Tasman Man’s post and his reference to The Oaks and the miserable $40k the Club put in, I think you need to fact check. Anyway, it’s obvious the ARC have their detractors but that’s part and parcel of the TPS. Not sure why you can’t see that?

I can’t answer that question for you as I’m not privy to the arrangements of that funding. I’m not commenting so much on the funding. All I’m saying is that ARC shouldn’t be condemned or penalised for being so fiscally responsible. Sure they have made mistakes. Some would say that their $2m gift to Counties to upgrade their training track was a mistake. But if NZTR are prepared to fund successful Clubs then why should they be looked down on? Question NZTR’s use of funds by all means, but don’t blame ARC.

They are obviously entitled to get what they are entitled to. That surely doesn’t take anything away from their business acumen does it? I would have thought thats an issue for NZTR. Your comment Pam reeks of the TPS that exists in NZ and Aust. I think you could have used different words to convey your message? Perhaps, “Due to the fiscal prudence and long term forward planning , something many would suggest has been missing at NZTR for many years, perhaps ARC no longer needs such support from NZTR and any funding should be reviewed”. But really, if they are entitled to it then they shouldn’t be penalised for being successful. It’s an issue for NZTR - if it is an issue. JMHO

Ellerslie would have more money and investments than all the other NZ Clubs. That’s what having a diligent Board with a 15 year Plan does to a Club!

Agree, the paying down to 14th imho, many may regard as a magicians trick. With average field being about 11, I dream of how much they are saving. However, if it is being applied elsewhere for “Stakes”, then I would be ok with that. But ultimately, everything with regards to $$$$ should always be 100% transparent to all stakeholders.

If the main racing jurisdictions in Oz (viz, Qld , NSW and Vic 3%) all have deductions for Their Horse Welfare and Jockeys fund, why can’t NZ do it? Sure stakes are still a big concern but so is the welfare of horses and jockeys.

Owners will be funding horse welfare through a Stakes Levy.

I had a horse racing at Counties one day and the Trainer was giving the jockey instructions. He told him not to make his run until he reached about 250m out. The Jockey must have thought he was racing at Cranbourne or The Valley! He hit the lead at the top of the Counties straight and was beaten a nose trying to lead all the way up that long straight. I cannot repeat on here what the Trainer said to the Jockey after the race!

I bet you a $100 that Vulpine will not run a place at Rosehill today

Rosehill abandoned!

Trentham R1: 5/6 Trentham R2: 3/4 Trentham R4: 1/8 Trentham R5: 3/4 Rosehill R2: 2/12 Trentham R6: 2/8 Rosehill R3: 13/15 Trentham R7: 6/8 Trentham R8: 1/11 Rosehill R5: 3/4 Rosehill R6: 2/11 Rosehill R7: 8/10 Rosehill R8: 12/13 Rosehill R9: 5/7

If they shove it off to the Castlepoint Picnics and over a 1000m it may we’ll win again

If they shove it off to the Castlepoint Picnics and over a 1000m it may we’ll win again

One of the fastest 1000m courses in Australia is arguably Sandown. However, it wouldn’t matter how many fast 1000m races are won there, it wouldn’t have any bearing on a Lightning Stakes 1000m race at Flemington.

Mate, FORGET about times. Also, it’s not about Key races. Concentrate (even in maiden races) on the quality of the field. That’s the key. Winning a maiden at Ruakaka against moderate performers in a fast time 15 months ago, is not a good yardstick to base your punting on. If Godolphin, Moody, Mick Price, Maher/Eustace and Lindsay Park all have horses in a maiden and they finish close together AND in a good time, then one should jot down the names of the horses for future ref. It’s who finishes behind the winner that determines the quality of the win. Now issue the apology for linking DJ to your “Corrupt” headline. A gentleman would do that.

If you’re up for accepting advice Mule, forget completely “times”. Go by the competition. You’ll be much better off.

Well Mulebacker, as you say, “Plenty of bullshit in this game”. The Alan T you’re referring to, I presume that’s the retired Qld Commentator? The one that’s Racing Manager for David Vandyke? You know the stable that lost the MM $2m race due to a positive returned by The Alligator? Is that the AT? Unless you are privy to the riding instructions given, one should not point the finger at Jocks - even though some do put in some bad ones. If you’re going to finger point and name a Jockey, I think you should first declare if you are talking thru the pocket. Who in their right mind would back a 4yo mare, that won a Ruakaka Maiden in Dec 2019 and has done absolutely nothing on racetrack or at trials since then that would cause one to think it could run well? You owe DJ an apology. The headline you posted up using words like “Corrupt” and “dirty”, might see DJ visiting a defamation lawyer for a bit of advice! Just saying. The horse is clearly no star - and its form for the last 15 months confirms that. In a human analogy, Ron Clarke, now deceased champion runner, held 17 World records for running. But he never won a Olympic Gold Medal. I played squash against him at his home court when he lived in Melbourne and over a beer after the game in his room full of hundreds and hundreds of trophies he won at World Athletic meets. There was one framed display with the 17 World Record Gold Medals he had been awarded. He said to me, “I’d swap them all for just one Olympic Gold”. moral of the story is, backing horses on times is very risky. It’s who finished behind them that counts most. Remember that.

Idiot. Ever heard of photoshop in your warped world?

Mate of mine’s Parents had a farm out Pak way many years ago from early 60’s onwards. Back then Pakenham was in the sticks and you couldn’t give land away. It was brown dry and worth buggar all. Melbourne expanded and the suburbs moved further and further out east. More so than West due to the airports out west. The small farm was sold for $25million !! Now Pak is really part of Melb.

Biden couldn’t address an envelope.

She’s an average actor (good description- Actor) from a NETFLIX show. Name a Box Office hit or major film she’s been in and starred? The Monarchy will come out even stronger after this rubbish.