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  1. With Deep Impact out of action for serving duties this will mean Winx will likely stay in Australia to be served. My guess for the stallion they go to is Pierro, ahead of I Am Invincible and Snitzel.
  2. Statistics - Sire Details - 2019 Australian Easter Yearling Sale Name Entries Sold Passed In Withdrawn Aggregate Av Price Top Price Median Deep Impact (JPN) 4 4 0 0 $3,400,000 $850,000 $1,700,000 $700,000 Time for War 1 1 0 0 $800,000 $800,000 $800,000 $800,000 Lonhro 6 3 3 0 $1,810,000 $603,333 $1,400,000 $300,000 Snitzel 37 24 10 3 $12,895,000 $537,292 $2,800,000 $400,000 Not a Single Doubt 17 15 0 2 $7,925,000 $528,333 $1,100,000 $480,000 Exceed and Excel 13 12 1 0 $6,295,000 $524,583 $1,700,000 $395,000 Savabeel 4 2 1 1 $1,010,000 $505,000 $850,000 $505,000 I Am Invincible 31 25 2 4 $12,340,000 $493,600 $1,400,000 $380,000 Rubick 3 3 0 0 $1,450,000 $483,333 $900,000 $300,000 Fastnet Rock 31 27 3 1 $12,527,500 $463,981 $2,300,000 $300,000 Read more at https://inglis.com.au/misc/sales/sireaverages/?sale=19EAY&sale_session=A#bBr94TIEqjgxSzHA.99
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    stallion for 2019

    While I agree with Berri that Almazor's win in the Irish Champion Stakes was outstanding a would like add a couple comments. I Can Fly might have raced out of his skin that day but there were some very smart Group One winners in behind that day. Deauville was third in the Queen Elizabeth but he was 3.15 lengths behind. Nothing wrong with flopping on dirt if you are a turf horse. One must also compare pedigrees rather than just race record. I Am Invincible as an example was only a Group Three winner and 2nd at Group one but win a great pedigree! A quick sire comparison- KITTEN'S JOY (USA)Ch. 2001GW 9 winsf:1185 r:1028 w:735 SW:90 WOOTTON BASSETT (GB)B. 2008GW 5 winsf:165 r:99 w:52 SW:5
  4. While there is some debate over what rating a horse should be at I do think comparing a race rating by the average Timeform Rating of each entrant gives a good starting point. After all I would rather have a Cox Plate placegetter than some 2yo or 3yo New Zealand Group One race when you don't know how good the rest of the field really is! Some have gone over to Australia only to be six lengths behind the them at Group One. Not trying to point out horses but merely trying to say placing against the best Timeform Rated horses is still better than comparing a horse winning against some average Timeform Rated horses. Obviously going to another country to race is not easy.
  5. While race ability has been shown to have a major component on a stallions success at stud, there are other factors also such as pedigree. A reminder Savabeel won the Cox Plate. Great thing about breeding- there are no rules!
  6. Forth placegetter in the Japan Cup was Cheval Grand. You stated above 3 wins from 22 starts. His recorded form is -Cheval Grand 28 starts, 7 wins,6 seconds and 7 thirds. Plus last start second in the Dubai Sheema Classic not included in that form! https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001152403/ As shown above the Japan Cup is currently rated equal to the Cox Plate.
  7. Firstly the Japan Cup is one of the world most highly ranked races based on facts. THE WORLD'S TOP 100 GROUP/GRADE ONE RACES for 3yo's and upwards - 2018 Rank Race Distance (Metres) Cat. Surface Race Track Country Qualification Pattern Race Rating 1 Qatar Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe 2400 L T PARISLONGCHAMP FR 3+ 125.00 2 LONGINES Queen Elizabeth Stakes 2000 I T RANDWICK AUS 3+ 123.75 3 Prince of Wales's Stakes 2000 I T ASCOT GB 4+ 123.25 4= Juddmonte International Stakes 2080 I T YORK GB 3+ 123.00 4= LONGINES Dubai Sheema Classic 2410 L T MEYDAN UAE 4+ 123.00 6 Breeders' Cup Classic 2000 I D CHURCHILL DOWNS USA 3+ 122.75 7= Japan Cup in association with LONGINES 2400 L T TOKYO JPN 3+ 122.50 7= Ladbrokes Cox Plate 2040 I T MOONEE VALLEY AUS 3+ 122.50 9= The Agency George Ryder Stakes 1500 M T ROSEHILL AUS 3+ 122.25 9= Colgate Optic White Stakes 1600 M T RANDWICK AUS 3+ 122.25 9= Prix Ganay - Prix de l'Inauguration de ParisLongchamp 2100 I T PARISLONGCHAMP FR 4+ 122.25 12= Investec Derby 2400 L T EPSOM DOWNS GB 3yo 121.75 12= King George VI & Queen Elizabeth Stakes 2400 L T ASCOT GB 3+ 121.75 12= Coral-Eclipse 2000 I T SANDOWN PARK GB 3+ 121.25 12= QIPCO Champion Stakes 2000 I T ASCOT GB 3+ 121.25 16 Darley T. J. Smith Stakes 1200 S T RANDWICK AUS 3+ 121.00 17= Arima Kinen (The Grand Prix) 2500 L T NAKAYAMA JPN 3+ 120.75 17= Kentucky Derby Presented by Woodford Reserve 2000 I D CHURCHILL DOWNS USA 3yo 120.75 17= Tenno Sho (Autumn) 2000 I T TOKYO JPN 3+ 120.75 17= Winx Stakes (Ex Warwick) 1400 M T RANDWICK AUS 3yo+ 120.75 21= Grand Prix de Saint-Cloud 2400 L T SAINT-CLOUD FR 4+ 120.25 21= LONGINES Breeders' Cup Turf 2400 L T CHURCHILL DOWNS USA 3+ 120.25 21= QIPCO Irish Champion Stakes 2000 I T LEOPARDSTOWN IRE 3+ 120.25 21= Tab Turnbull Stakes 2000 I T FLEMINGTON AUS 4+ 120.25 25 Prix du Haras de Fresnay-le-Buffard - Jacques Le Marois 1600 M T DEAUVILLE FR 3+ 120.00 26= Kirin Doomben 10,000 1200 S T DOOMBEN AUS 3+ 119.75 26= Prix du Moulin de Longchamp 1600 M T PARISLONGCHAMP FR 3+ 119.75 28 Schweppes All Aged Stakes 1400 M T RANDWICK AUS 3+ 119.50 29= Champions Mile 1600 M T SHA TIN HK 3+ 119.25 29= Citi Hong Kong Gold Cup 2000 I T SHA TIN HK 3+ 119.25 29= LONGINES Hong Kong Mile 1600 M T SHA TIN HK 3+ 119.25 29= Queen Elizabeth II Stakes 1600 M T ASCOT GB 3+ 119.25 29= TwinSpires Breeders' Cup Sprint 1200 S D CHURCHILL DOWNS USA 3+ 119.25 34= Chairman's Sprint Prize 1200 S T SHA TIN HK 3+ 119.00 34= LONGINES Hong Kong Cup 2000 I T SHA TIN HK 3+ 119.00 34= Mostyn Copper Group Randwick Guineas 1600 M T RANDWICK AUS 3yo 119.00 34= Pegasus World Cup Invitational Stakes 1800 M D GULFSTREAM PARK USA 4+ 119.00 34= Preakness Stakes 1900 I D PIMLICO USA 3yo 119.00 34= VRC Sprint Classic 1200 S T FLEMINGTON AUS 3+ 119.00 40= Coolmore Fastnet Rock Matron Stakes 1600 M T LEOPARDSTOWN IRE 3+ F&M 118.75 40= Investec Coronation Cup 2400 L T EPSOM DOWNS GB 4+ 118.75 42= Coolmore Nunthorpe Stakes 1000 S T YORK GB 2+ 118.50 42= Ladbrokes Caulfield Stakes 2000 I T CAULFIELD AUS 3+ 118.50 42= LONGINES Hong Kong Sprint 1200 S T SHA TIN HK 3+ 118.50 42= Queen's Silver Jubilee Cup 1400 M T SHA TIN HK 3+ 118.50 42= Sun Met Celebrated with G. H. Mumm 2000 I T KENILWORTH SAF 3+ 118.50 47= Belmont Stakes Presented by NYRA Bets 2400 L D BELMONT PARK USA 3yo 118.25 47= Dubai Turf Sponsored by DP World 1800 M T MEYDAN UAE 4+ 118.25 47= Gold Cup at Santa Anita H'cap (ex Hollywood Gold Cup) 2000 I D SANTA ANITA USA 3+ 118.25 47= Osaka Hai 2000 I T HANSHIN JPN 4+ 118.25 47= Tab Epsom Handicap 1600 M T RANDWICK AUS 3+ 118.25
  8. Not sure how they compare the two. But best to check out her Japan Cup run. Almond Eye did win the Japan Cup over 2400m at her previous start in a world record 2:20.6. I think Almond Eye will be better suited over 2400m of the Arc. For
  9. News- Winx’s mum Vegas Showgirl was served by Japan’s phenomenal stallion Deep Impact this week as her owner John Camilleri continues his philosophy of mating the best with the best. Vegas Showgirl is the third of three broodmares Camilleri sent to Deep Impact, with A Time For Julia and Peron already returning positive pregnancy tests at Paca Paca Farm in Japan. The trio will return to Australia and Camilleri expected to continued his policy of keeping the offspring if the resultant foals are fillies, while and colts are likely to be sold. If the Deep Impact-Vegas Showgirl mating produces a colt and it makes its way to the sales ring, it would most likely set a new benchmark for yearlings sold in Australia.
  10. The dam of Vegas Showgirl was sent to Deep Impact and Winx would very likely go there if she was served outside Australia. Service fee of Yen 40,000,000 which is $540,000. I understand there is no discount on service fee at Shadai where Deep Impact stands but if you sent all your mares you may get a discount on agistment. Avilius out of a Sunday Silence mare. Sunday Silence the sire of Deep Impact. Almond Eye out of a Sunday Silence mare. She won a big race in Dubai last night and should will now be rated higher than Winx on World rankings.
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    2019 new stallions

    Staphanos Timeform 123. Makes him the highest rated of the stallions discussed above so far. Should sell well to Australians given Arrowfield taking a lead and that he was a multiple Group One horse in Hong Kong they will know him also .
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    stallion for 2019

    https://www.thoroughbredracing.com/articles/unravelling-mystery-galileos-failure-southern-hemisphere/ Unravelling the mystery of Galileo’s ‘failure’ in the Southern Hemisphere Linton, winner of the G1 Stradbroke Handicap over seven furlongs at Eagle Farm in 2013, is the highest ranking among Galileo’s offspring bred in Australia. Photo: maluaracing.com.au The Galileo enigma. A Southern Hemisphere disappointment or not? Galileo’s reputation in the Northern Hemisphere is well earned. His achievements there have made him perhaps the outstanding stallion on the planet, a longtime world #1 in the TRC Global Rankings (#2 in September 2018). He has been champion British and Irish sire eight times (a ninth title has been added since this article was written). In Europe this year, his progeny have won more prize money than the next five stallions on the list put together. Worldwide he tops the G1 earnings earnings list, his total even bettering that of Deep Impact in Japan. His stakes winner strike rate in the Northern Hemisphere hovers at around 14 percent. With his 57 G1 winners up north, there is no doubt he is one of the all-time greats. But not in Australia, where he stood at Coolmore Stud’s Hunter Valley base for five seasons. Here he is generally considered a disappointment. And the figures seem to back that up. While Galileo’s Southern Hemisphere stakes winners-to-runners ratio of around five percent is by no means the statistic of a poorly performed stallion, it is not in the realm of his success elsewhere. Galileo has had 24 stakes winners in Australasia; of those six were bred in the Northern Hemisphere. The gap between his best European-bred horse - the unbeaten superstar Frankel - and his best performing Australian-bred horse - the sprinter Linton - is a sizeable one (with no disrespect to the latter). Though among Galileo’s best is the Australian-bred Igugu (see YouTube video above), a four-time G1 winner who earned among several titles that of South African Horse Of The Year. Another to have raced with distinction in that country is the champion 2-year-old filly Mahbooba, out of an Australian Red Ransom mare. Sydney Cup winner Niwot and Spring Champion Stakes winner Sousa are Galileo’s other local G1 winners. A nice group of horses, but there is no doubt that Galileo’s record in the Northern Hemisphere far surpasses his in Australasia. Why? PEDIGREE “In the Northern Hemisphere, Galileo was supported by quality mares from day one. Here he at best got the second-tier mares.” - Nick Williams, of Macedon Lodge, home to several talented imported Galileos “It has to be the mares he got down here compared to the Northern Hemisphere. There is no other way to explain it.” -Troy Corstens, co-trainer of Galileo’s Stradbroke Handicap winner Linton “The genetic make-up of our broodmare band - there is so much speed tracing back for generations.” - William Inglis’ Jonathan D’Arcy So let’s take a look at the broodmare sires out of whose daughters Galileo has sired multiple stakes winners. They are: Air Express, Alysheba, Anabaa, Danehill, Danehill Dancer, Darshaan, Diesis, Dr Fong, Erins Isle, Grand Lodge, Green Desert, Indian Ridge, Intikhab, Kaldoun, Kingmambo, Kris, Kris S, Last Tycoon, Machiavellian, Mark Of Esteem, Mozart, Nashwan, Nureyev, Pennekamp, Pivotal, Rainbow Quest, Red Ransom, Shirley Heights, Silver Hawk, Spectrum, Ri Pekan, Storm Cat, Stravinsky Of this list, only Danehill had significant numbers of daughters visit Galileo in both hemispheres, not surprising since he was his stud mate at Coolmore. Frankel is the headliner for the Galileo/Danehill cross in Europe, one that has produced another 39 black-type runners with an outstanding stakes winner ratio of 21.5 percent. Of those 40 stakes winners, three were Australian-bred, the only one successful on Australian soil being the listed winner Banc de Fortune. Galileo served mares by Danehill on around 50 occasions in Australia. While this cross has been disappointing in this part of the world, it can be said in Galileo’s defence that much of his success in the Northern Hemisphere has been with mares from lines that have had much more influence there than here. For example, his strike rates with mares by Air Express, Alysheba, Darshaan, Dr Fong, Erins Isle, Indian Ridge, Kingmambo, Kris, Kris S, Mark Of Esteem, Mozart, Nashwan, Pennekamp, Pivotal and Silver Hawk are impressive - but these are not names commonly seen in Australia or New Zealand. The only broodmare sire to have produced multiple Galileo stakes winners in Australasia is Last Tycoon (Sousa, Saint Minerva, Jacquinot Bay) while mares by Diesis (Sixties Icon/Gallant Tess), Grand Lodge (Sword Fighter/Lightinthenite), Intikhab (Found, Best In The World, Magical Dream/Igugu), Red Ransom (Ard Na Greine/Mahbooba), Stravinsky (Rip Van Winkle, Easter/Sea Galleon) have produced Galileo stakes winners bred in Europe and Australasia. So did Galileo get more of a chance from his Irish base than from his Australian one? There is no doubt that an Epsom Derby winner - or any winner of a staying race for that matter - garners more respect in Europe. However, Galileo was well supported, serving 720 mares during his five years in Australia, an average of 144 per season. He served mares by a wide variety of stallions, both sprinting- and staying-bred, though there is no doubt he did better with the latter. He served, for example, mares by sprinting influence Rory’s Jester on around 20 occasions. This cross yielded ten runners, none of whom were stakes-performed. It’s a similar story with mares by other winners of the Golden Slipper; Galileo was visited by mares by Marscay, Luskin Star, Canny Lad, Catbird, Flying Spur, Danzero, Star Watch, Marauding and Vain. In total, 40 runners and just the one stakes winner, the 2400m listed winner Luvuleo, out of the Marscay mare Luvscay. When mated with mares by stallions bred for a bit more stamina, Galileo did sire the Australian stakes winners Tanby (dam by Danewin), Sertorius (Encosta de Lago) Niwot (Noble Bijou), Spacecraft (Octagonal), Galizani (Zabeel), Personify (Jade Hunter) and Sea Galleon (Stravinsky). Meanwhile Linton, Reprisal, Discorsi (from mainly a sprinting family but has the Melbourne Cup winner Silver Knight as his third dam sire), Dance To The Stars and Galizani have staying influence. The latter, a dual listed winner over 1900m and 2400m, is out of a mare by Zabeel, who you would think, all things being equal, was made for Galileo. Not only is he also a classic stallion, he is out of a mare by Nureyev, 3/4 brother to Galileo’s sire Sadler’s Wells. However, of the 16 Galileo runners out of Zabeel mares, Galizani is the sole stakes winner. So, while Galileo was supported by a fair whack of mares by sprinting sires, he did also have a chance with those with some stamina as well. Again he underperformed compared to the stellar job he has done in the Northern Hemisphere. Of course, looking at broodmare sires is only part of the story and Galileo did stand in the Hunter Valley where breeders have for generations been fine tuning their families for precocious speed. Success can of course also be about perception. If we don’t compare the Australian Galileo to the European one, he fared well. As Nick Williams noted: “His statistics are pretty similar to a stallion like Northern Meteor, who served a similar number of mares.” As noted, Galileo served 720 mares in five years. Northern Meteor (who ranks world #118 in TRC Global Rankings) in four seasons served 622. Galileo’s Australian stakes winner ratio sits at 5.8 percent, Northern Meteor’s is 4.02 percent. The latter, however, did have six G1 winners. Galileo, as already discussed, had three. TRAINING “In the Northern Hemisphere, Galileo had success with 2-year-olds and trainers in Australian probably believed they were more precocious than they really were. Interestingly it was a similar story with Zabeel early but people persisted and worked out that they needed time. Our training style probably contributed to physically and mentally breaking them.” - Nick Williams “The training regimes that most Australian trainers use may not be suitable for the type of horses that Galileo sires.” - Jonathan D’Arcy “Trainers here are more inclined to push young horses and maybe they just needed time to mature.” - David Payne, trainer of Galileo’s dual G2 winner Gallant Tess “I think they were pushed too soon down under and, when the first crop of 3-year-olds didn’t perform up to expectation, the Australian market went off them.” - Paul Moroney, international bloodstock agent “The progeny of Galileo have proven more than capable under Australian conditions in recent years, as the likes of Adelaide and The United States (see YouTube videos below) have shown. I have no doubt in my mind that, if Australian breeders and trainers had the understanding of Galileo and his progeny when he first came to Australia that they do now, we’d be looking at a completely different proposition.” - Michael Kirwan, Coolmore Australia “I would think that, as a general rule, the Galileos don’t cope well with being pushed too hard too early. In Australia, we often don’t nurture the animals who need the time to grow up physically and mentally. “Of course, Galileo has had some exceptional 2-year-olds, but perhaps with Europe’s more relaxed and endurance-based training methods, they are able to keep them from going over the top at a young age. “It’s so lovely how they prepare a nice young horse here [at Newmarket]. They’re doing plenty of evens - every day up a hill - but it’s relaxed and they’re not being competitive. Then, towards the end of their 2-year-old year, they will have four to five gallops in pairs or groups on the bridle before going to the races in October/November. “Trainers will tell the jockeys to flop out of the gates and let them run home on his own steam, no whips. In Australia, on the other hand, we give them two to three trials over unsuitable distances with the sticks up!” - Michael Kent Jnr, who has worked in stables and ridden in Australia and the UK THE RACES/THE TRACKS “Our 2-year-old racing is much more jump-and-run than in Europe, where most of the horses are bred to run over a mile plus. As a consequence the races are run at a different tempo, which aids horses by stallions like Galileo.” - Nick Williams And, as regards to longer contests, Australian races can be sit-and-sprint affairs, as opposed to European races in which the services of a pacemaker can be utilized to ensure a fast race, something that plays into the hands of the stronger, staying-bred horse. “I think that Galileo’s progeny are better suited to a testing gallop on Europe’s big, undulating courses as opposed to the sit-and-sprint nature of Australia’s tight, turning tracks. To win a race in Europe requires totally different attributes and training. You need to be able to sustain a sprint and often finish the race uphill. At home, a quick burst of speed once you get into the home straight is enough to win the race.” - Michael Kent Jnr “My assumption is that his [Galileo’s] progeny are more effective on a soft surface and, as you know, the going gets very hard and firm most of the time here.” - David Payne “He is by Galileo, so a wet track won’t bother him,” said Nick Williams in the lead-up to this year’s Queen Elizabeth Stakes at Randwick, a race in which Macedon Lodge’s Galileo entire The United States finished second on rain affected going. He would go onto G2 success in the Crystal Mile at Moonee Valley in October, the track on that occasion rated slow. There is not a huge variation in Galileo’s European statistics on dry tracks versus rain-affected tracks, but of course Australian tracks tend to be firmer overall. Representing his father Dermot with Galileo’s Choice in the 2012 Melbourne Cup, Mark Weld told the press: “What you would call a good track would be too quick for all the European horses.” THE FUTURE “Luckily he has sons and daughters with the credentials to help him enhance his legacy in Australasia over time.” - Michael Kirwan W.S Cox Plate winner Adelaide served 98 mares in his debut season last spring, while Teofilo was back this year due to demand and his son Kermadec is another popular member of the Darley roster. Meanwhile, the Australian stud book has 128 of Galileo’s daughters registered as active broodmares.
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    stallion for 2019

    Quite possibly. Worthwhile remembering that firm tracks in the UK are not as fast as firm tracks in Australia. Also the UK staying races tend to have faster earlier sectionals while in Australia there is a tendency to have faster end sectionals and hence more turn of foot required. Unless you go to the front to try and replicate the faster earlier sectionals!
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    stallion for 2019

    A previous post on race cafe compared Galileo to Frankel and listed the sire ability of each. Frankel is now behind his sire in his ability to produce top class racehorses. Berri produced a list of all the 100+ mares sent to Frankel and the results. Doesn't mean Eminent can't be a good sire especially on heavy tracks. His highest Timeform rating is 120.
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    NZB Weanling, Broodmare & Mixed Sale

    I don't think this means more or better select/high quality mares just less low end mares at the NZB sale. However I think there is more opportunity to buy a very good weanling filly on Gavelhouse at a cheap price.