Ohokaman 5,846 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 What are they thinking ???? A R64 3 year old gets in ahead of International Buckhurst....????? Ā Did they think 4 was enough...?! 2020 COX PLATE (2040m) Saturday, October 24 -Ā TABĀ prices 1 - Kolding (10) 59kg - $17 2 -Ā HumidorĀ (14) 59kg - $26 3 - Fierce Impact (12) 59kg - $26Ā 4 - Master Of Wine (1) 59kg - $26 5 - Mugatoo (9) 59kg - $26 6 - Aspetar (3) 59kg - $13 7 - Sir Dragonet (7) 59kg - $9 8 - Magic Wand (4) 57kg - $21 9 - Arcadia Queen (8) 57kg - $5 10 -Ā NettoyerĀ (13) 57kg - $201 11 - Russian Camelot (15) 57kg - $4 12 - Armory (6) 56.5kg - $6 13 - Probabeel (2) 55.5kg - $13 14 - Grandslam (5) 49.5kg - $26 15 (em) - Buckhurst (11) 59kg - $26 Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,846 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 And Williams camp aināt happy either...donāt blame them. https://www.racenet.com.au/news/lloyd-and-nick-williams-fuming-after-buckhurst-misses-out-on-cox-plate-chance-20201019 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,801 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 You have to like Grandslams pedigree but reallyĀ Ā Does C B Mckenna carry moreĀ clout than the Williams at Moonee Valley ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,846 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Gruff said: You have to like Grandslams pedigree but reallyĀ Ā Does C B Mckenna carry moreĀ clout than the Williams at Moonee Valley ? $200,000 late entry fee probably helped..... Gruff and Red Rum 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 Best form guide race for this is Armoury's 2nd in the Group 1 2019 Criterium InternationalĀ at Longchamp , a gallant effort to place . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 Remember the maiden winning? Shamus Award? The handicapper and selectors are always right.Ā Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,846 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 34 minutes ago, Trump said: Remember the maiden winning? Shamus Award? The handicapper and selectors are always right.Ā Of course they are.....Because the Chairman ālikes to see a 3 year old in it...āĀ If that thing wins the Cox Plate as a prestigious race is finished. Huey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,801 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 43 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: Of course they are.....Because the Chairman ālikes to see a 3 year old in it...āĀ If that thing wins the Cox Plate as a prestigious race is finished. Jameka won the oaks with a leg in the air, if Maher sees āthat thingā as Ā a realistic chanceĀ with 200k to back it up you need to take notice, get your Cox/ Derby doubles on nowĀ Ohokaman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,846 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Gruff said: Jameka won the oaks with a leg in the air, if Maher sees āthat thingā as Ā a realistic chanceĀ with 200k to back it up you need to take notice, get your Cox/ Derby doubles on nowĀ You go for it, picking losers is a hobby..... Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,801 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: You go for it, picking losers is a hobby..... For most in this gameĀ and im sure your no exceptionĀ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 I think Team Williams have every right to feel hard done by. By any measure of current form or results over the last 12 - 18 months, Buckhurst deserved to be ahead of a couple or more (including Grandslam), but thank goodness Buckhurst is not kiwi ownedĀ and trained - the stink would be unbearable! Realistically, I think Iāve got it nabbed in 3 picks and look forward to Sat.Ā Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobysnacks 386 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Ohokaman said: Of course they are.....Because the Chairman ālikes to see a 3 year old in it...āĀ If that thing wins the Cox Plate as a prestigious race is finished. But Shamus Award won it, having never won a race prior.Ā So the Cox Plate was finished after that? Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,846 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, NextPlease said: But Shamus Award won it, having never won a race prior.Ā So the Cox Plate was finished after that? Shamus ran and placed in 8 Group and Listed races before the Cox Plate.....Grandslam has won a 2 year old race in Adelaide. No difference there then...... Huey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobysnacks 386 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 Sure, but the addition of a 3YO adds interest - as opposed to yet another European that no one has heard of. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,801 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Ohokaman said: Shamus ran and placed in 8 Group and Listed races before the Cox Plate.....Grandslam has won a 2 year old race in Adelaide. No difference there then...... The Bookies have Grandslam at a similar quote to Shamus Award in 2013.Ā Someones way off the mark here and i cant see it beingĀ the Ā Bookies orĀ Maher and EustaceĀ Ā Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stodge 1,950 Report post Posted October 20, 2020 14 hours ago, Red Rum said: Best form guide race for this is Armoury's 2nd in the Group 1 2019 Criterium InternationalĀ at Longchamp , a gallant effort to place . He was beaten 20 lengths in a match race on bottomless ground. He's better judged on his third to VICTOR LUDORUM in the Jean-Luc Lagardere last year and on his most recent effort when third to MAGICAL in the Irish Champion finishing in front of subsequent Arc winner SOTTSASS. I'm not convinced - quick ground and Australia might be the making of him. I'd prefer him to SIR DRAGONET who looks a bit of a dodgepot as we say up here. ASPETAR is rated 116 and if that's good enough to win a Cox Plate, the Aussies and Kiwis are in a world of trouble. ASPETAR won a Group 2 at York last time but had to go to Germany to find a Group 1. MAGIC WAND has a huge chance if you forgive her last effortĀ which was dismal. The earlier Eclipse fourth was decent and the Nassau fifth okay. She was fourth in the Cox Plate last year and beat a certain MELODY BELLE in the MacKinnon so if she brings her best form doesn't she win the Cox Plate or go very close? hedley, Archer and Red Rum 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus 439 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 Have to say this year's Cox Plate is underwhelming. Would have preferred to see Verry Ellegant tackle this race rather than Caulfield Cup. Her turn of foot and ability to make groundĀ while cornering would have been dynamite at MV. Baz (NZ) and Gruff 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlahan's Dream 541 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 Agree Weasel. Lacks the pzazzz....Probabeel, Humidor, Magic Wand and Armory (perhaps) for mine.Ā Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stodge 1,950 Report post Posted October 22, 2020 Both MAGIC WAND and ARMORY have to overcome slight injuries to run on Saturday but the former's foot abscess is more serious. A second veterinary inspection on Friday morning (Aus) will determine if the two O'Brien runners are cleared to race. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,846 Report post Posted October 23, 2020 11 hours ago, stodge said: Both MAGIC WAND and ARMORY have to overcome slight injuries to run on Saturday but the former's foot abscess is more serious. A second veterinary inspection on Friday morning (Aus) will determine if the two O'Brien runners are cleared to race. Magic Wand out. Buckhurst in. No doubt Williams camp is happy. Lot of rain forecast there which could upset a few tonight and tomorrow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlahan's Dream 541 Report post Posted October 23, 2020 Keep coming back to Humidor. He's drawn out but if the rains come, that won't matter. Loves this race. Seems to be in very good form and at 21s perhaps represents value.Ā Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,846 Report post Posted October 24, 2020 On 10/20/2020 at 10:55 PM, Gruff said: The Bookies have Grandslam at a similar quote to Shamus Award in 2013.Ā Someones way off the mark here and i cant see it beingĀ the Ā Bookies orĀ Maher and EustaceĀ Ā Any more words of wisdom ??Ā Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,801 Report post Posted October 24, 2020 Didnt like it Hokesy,after reviewing some video how could youĀ Interesting rides on Slam and Probabee l, dont reckon the connections would of been that excited at the 800 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum 1,833 Report post Posted October 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gruff said: Didnt like it Hokesy,after reviewing some video how could youĀ Interesting rides on Slam and Probabee l, dont reckon the connections would of been that excited at the 800 They could have put those two in horsefloatsĀ Ā and drove them round trackĀ , they still not beating Ā the first two from up North . Placed Listed Royal Ascot form good enough this year , let alone a group race upĀ there.Ā scooby3051 and Gruff 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breeder 609 Report post Posted October 24, 2020 Great win by the winner. I'm not up to date with the riding rules in Aussie but will the stipes have a go at Glen Boss for his celebrations before the finish line? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...