THIS IS SERIOUS PEOPLE MAKE NO MISTAKE

[Breeder 609]

There is all sorts of BS games going on. From an interview by Laura Ingram last night

Senator Dr. Scott Jensen: Right now Medicare is determining that if you have a COVID-19 admission to the hospital you get $13,000. If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator you get $39,000, three times as much. Nobody can tell me after 35 years in the world of medicine that sometimes those kinds of things impact on what we do.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/huge-mn-senator-doctor-hospitals-get-paid-list-patients-covid-19-three-times-much-patient-goes-ventilator-video/

There are obviously some people in the US bureaucracy who want the figures to be as high as possible. Not hard to work out why.

 

[Ohokaman 5,855]

2 hours ago, Breeder said:

There is all sorts of BS games going on. From an interview by Laura Ingram last night

Senator Dr. Scott Jensen: Right now Medicare is determining that if you have a COVID-19 admission to the hospital you get $13,000. If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator you get $39,000, three times as much. Nobody can tell me after 35 years in the world of medicine that sometimes those kinds of things impact on what we do.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/huge-mn-senator-doctor-hospitals-get-paid-list-patients-covid-19-three-times-much-patient-goes-ventilator-video/

There are obviously some people in the US bureaucracy who want the figures to be as high as possible. Not hard to work out why.

 

Well it is Fox so must be right....just like that other site Trump loves so much..OANN.....

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9 minutes ago, Ohokaman said:

Well it is Fox so must be right....just like that other site Trump loves so much..OANN.....

Oann is the only trusted press and is asking Trump real questions unlike the rest and fake news and  NZ press

They even asked him about voter fraud and now the rest of the swamp press are trying to get them booted out but it ain't gunna work

Drain the swamp

 

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2 hours ago, Breeder said:

There is all sorts of BS games going on. From an interview by Laura Ingram last night

Senator Dr. Scott Jensen: Right now Medicare is determining that if you have a COVID-19 admission to the hospital you get $13,000. If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator you get $39,000, three times as much. Nobody can tell me after 35 years in the world of medicine that sometimes those kinds of things impact on what we do.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/huge-mn-senator-doctor-hospitals-get-paid-list-patients-covid-19-three-times-much-patient-goes-ventilator-video/

There are obviously some people in the US bureaucracy who want the figures to be as high as possible. Not hard to work out why.

 

Yep more deep state thuggery

They were lacing the test kits with C 19

Its all falling apart

You wanna a vaccine from deeps state Bill Gates??

The man wants to depopulate the world....good luck with that'

How's your mate Fauci looking?

Drain the swamp

 

 

 

[Ohokaman 5,855]

9 minutes ago, 100 1 said:

Yep more deep state thuggery

They were lacing the test kits with C 19

Its all falling apart

You wanna a vaccine from deeps state Bill Gates??

The man wants to depopulate the world....good luck with that'

How's your mate Fauci looking?

Drain the swamp

 

 

 

Fuckwit.....

[Ohokaman 5,855]

20 minutes ago, 100 1 said:

Oann is the only trusted press and is asking Trump real questions unlike the rest and fake news and  NZ press

They even asked him about voter fraud and now the rest of the swamp press are trying to get them booted out but it ain't gunna work

Drain the swamp

 

Another manufactured site backed by a rich Republican donor.....go figure.

Ask patsy questions for Trump to answer so their tiny audience can see how well they are doing......more bullshit......

https://www.ctpost.com/entertainment/article/OANN-is-booted-from-White-House-press-room-after-15172940.php

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12 minutes ago, Ohokaman said:

Another manufactured site backed by a rich Republican donor.....go figure.

Ask patsy questions for Trump to answer so their tiny audience can see how well they are doing......more bullshit......

https://www.ctpost.com/entertainment/article/OANN-is-booted-from-White-House-press-room-after-15172940.php

You're losing the battle fella

NZ has 2 deaths now... how did they really die?  Respiratory failure?  pneumonia? 

Why don't the NZ press ask them?

 

[Ohokaman 5,855]

7 minutes ago, 100 1 said:

You're losing the battle fella

NZ has 2 deaths now... how did they really die?  Respiratory failure?  pneumonia? 

Why don't the NZ press ask them?

 

They can’t, they are both dead.......

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3 minutes ago, Ohokaman said:

They can’t, they are both dead.......

Prob still alive ...faking it to save face

[Gruff 2,809]

Had to laugh ( not at the poor dead people though) when i heard the second death from 1000 supposedly related to Coronavirus on the radio, directly after saying  ‘this is why we are in lockdown ‘ ...seriously  

The fact we are not in our Flu season aside , how come we havnt seen more fatalities? This thing is suppose to be a Killer, i contacted a Nurse i know at one of Aucklands Hospitals and she told me there is 1 in intensive care, 1 in HDU and alot of the other suspected cases released after negatives... now going by the South Koreans who are leading the way  with testing, the results are conflicting? How many people are getting false negatives and being released? Transparent this is not

[rdytdy 5,343]

Massive Quarantine Operation Could Have Avoided Extreme Lockdown

(And Huge Economic Loss)

By Wendy Geus

 

The government’s tone-deafness to total border quarantine until yesterday will contribute massively to the approaching economic devastation.

Jacinda has managed the public relations side of the crisis magnificently. However, as Sean Plunket also said yesterday on his Working Group, Dr Ashley Bloomfield and other officials made the key decisions which led to the lockdown. She is merely the front person. 

My belief is that Bloomfield has been forced to take this course as Ardern dug her heels in initially and refused to fully quarantine, against his advice. With the Opposition on her case since February to adopt tough border controls (and questioning individual cases such as the unwell, untested Iranian woman) that was all the incentive she needed to ignore the Director General as well.

Also, she was a tad distracted by the approaching one-year commemoration of the Christchurch massacre and mindful of her global PR obligations (despite the Muslim community making it clear they do not commemorate this way). Huge pressure on her to cancel this and the Pasifika Festival from Bloomfield and other officials did not dissuade her until the day before the event. 

CRUCIALLY HER MIND WAS NOT FULLY ON THIS PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS UNTIL AFTER 15 MARCH.

Ardern’s Achilles heel is always her adherence to ideology. In this case, as the darling of open borders, she was reluctant to go the whole hog to fully quarantine returning Kiwis, after declaring our borders closed on March 20^th. 

Reliance on the public to self-isolate correctly is unreliable. This will work …for most. It is always the minority who let us down. Some intentionally, others ignorant of the rules. Gosh even her own wayward health minister couldn’t grasp the rules, and he supposedly set them!

Photoshopped image credit Pixy

Adherence to such things as ‘human rights’ detract from the immediate issue of a life or death situation and are actually irrelevant in a crisis. (We have tragically seen this in Italy where the choice of whom to sacrifice had to be made in their overburdened hospitals)

The Green branch of Ardern’s government would have been in her ear on this. Another reason why they must be toast come the September elections. (or whenever)

Only with esteemed epidemiologists, health officials, the media and the opposition on her case – along with National’s 24-hour 40,000-person petition – did she finally cave.

Let’s be clear. She had not been planning this all along. Her reported narrative to the media makes a lie of this assertion. In her naivety, she was all for trusting returning kiwis.

The best scenario of full quarantine of the border from February or early March would have been a massive logistical undertaking costing possibly 100 million dollars, or much more. 

NO JACINDA, IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK. Only little minds who are not agile enough and strategically and intellectually unable to take on the massive logistics planning requirements would fail. Say no more. 

We could have avoided shutting down New Zealand completely and putting our economy into free fall and the massive $20-30 billion we are now borrowing to keep the economy afloat.

The $100-million-plus cost of fully quarantining our borders much earlier would have been chicken feed, compared to what we are now facing and the massive burden being placed on generations to come.

 

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19 minutes ago, Gruff said:

Had to laugh ( not at the poor dead people though) when i heard the second death from 1000 supposedly related to Coronavirus on the radio, directly after saying  ‘this is why we are in lockdown ‘ ...seriously  

The fact we are not in our Flu season aside , how come we havnt seen more fatalities? This thing is suppose to be a Killer, i contacted a Nurse i know at one of Aucklands Hospitals and she told me there is 1 in intensive care, 1 in HDU and alot of the other suspected cases released after negatives... now going by the South Koreans who are leading the way  with testing, the results are conflicting? How many people are getting false negatives and being released? Transparent this is not

Ha And that's without even treating them with hydroxychloroquine

One giant scam about the size of the fake climate change....wakey wake people 

How does it feel to have been duped by the media and your own govt?

drain the swamp

[Gruff 2,809]

With Globalists Helen Clarke and John key sniffing around in the background exactly who is calling the shots?

[Ohokaman 5,855]

50 minutes ago, 100 1 said:

Ha And that's without even treating them with hydroxychloroquine

One giant scam about the size of the fake climate change....wakey wake people 

How does it feel to have been duped by the media and your own govt?

drain the swamp

I wish they would put you in it first.......

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1 hour ago, Ohokaman said:

I wish they would put you in it first.......

[Idolmite 2,567]

6 hours ago, 100 1 said:

You're losing the battle fella

NZ has 2 deaths now... how did they really die?  Respiratory failure?  pneumonia? 

Why don't the NZ press ask them?

 

You lot are all the same. You have no logical argument so you roll out the "you're losing the battle fella" line. With nothing at all to back that up. 

Who appointed you into that role, to be able to make such monemental (with the emphasis on "mental") decisions? What sort of qualifications did you need? Oh, that's right, self-appointed obviously. I hope you're enjoying yourself.....

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17 minutes ago, Idolmite said:

You lot are all the same. You have no logical argument so you roll out the "you're losing the battle fella" line. With nothing at all to back that up. 

Who appointed you into that role, to be able to make such monemental (with the emphasis on "mental") decisions? What sort of qualifications did you need? Oh, that's right, self-appointed obviously. I hope you're enjoying yourself.....

Logical thinking for a start

Why is your Govt not telling you about hydrochloroquine when the rest of the world is using/talking about it??????? crickets

What if the 2 deaths could have been prevented?

The WHO figures are cooked,.... no mention of it??????

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/huge-mn-senator-doctor-hospitals-get-paid-list-patients-covid-19-three-times-much-patient-goes-ventilator-video/

They are obviously lying to you by omission

Not logical????????

Remember your opinions are  formed from information from the very people who are not telling you the truth.

It's easier to fool people than convince them they have been fooled

[Idolmite 2,567]

4 minutes ago, 100 1 said:

Logical thinking for a start

Why is your Govt not telling you about hydrochloroquine when the rest of the world is using/talking about it??????? crickets

What if the 2 deaths could have been prevented?

The WHO figures are cooked,.... no mention of it??????

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/huge-mn-senator-doctor-hospitals-get-paid-list-patients-covid-19-three-times-much-patient-goes-ventilator-video/

They are obviously lying to you by omission

Not logical????????

You're reposting the same old American shit you've already posted. Not relevant. 

And your miracle drug? Let's wait and see eh? Those who actually need it are struggling to get it, and if it proves not to work on Covid-19 it could quite easily end up doing more harm than good. "What have you got to lose?" Only your life.....what would you like those deaths to be recorded as? 

The numbers in America are likely bigger, not smaller, due to their haphazard beginnings to testing, and so many doctors, especially in smaller areas, not having access to testing kits. Some of these people were likely Covid-19 positive but weren't listed as such. 

NZ has certainly made some mistakes, but I'd far rather be here than in Trumpland. 

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1 minute ago, Idolmite said:

You're reposting the same old American shit you've already posted. Not relevant. 

And your miracle drug? Let's wait and see eh? Those who actually need it are struggling to get it, and if it proves not to work on Covid-19 it could quite easily end up doing more harm than good. "What have you got to lose?" Only your life.....what would you like those deaths to be recorded as? 

The numbers in America are likely bigger, not smaller, due to their haphazard beginnings to testing, and so many doctors, especially in smaller areas, not having access to testing kits. Some of these people were likely Covid-19 positive but weren't listed as such. 

NZ has certainly made some mistakes, but I'd far rather be here than in Trumpland. 

Do more research

[Idolmite 2,567]

2 hours ago, 100 1 said:

Do more research

Same to you. Your stuff is not proven accurate just because YOU say so, even though may think so. The full truth is likely somewhere in between, although we will never know the full truth.......and once again, despite what you say. It's mostly all speculation  

You have no way of proving any of it, not even at 10,000-1. So much is guess work, and so much based on what any individual wants to believe. 

[6xes 699]

44 minutes ago, Idolmite said:

Same to you. Your stuff is not proven accurate just because YOU say so, even though may think so. The full truth is likely somewhere in between, although we will never know the full truth.......and once again, despite what you say. It's mostly all speculation  

You have no way of proving any of it, not even at 10,000-1. So much is guess work, and so much based on what any individual wants to believe. 

Its a hard pill to swallow when we have been nurtured to trust the medical science and media...

add to that the global W.H.O that supposedly leads for the benefit of humanity..

now imagine just for a moment....if every branch and organisation of the very institutions we came to trust, had placed within them... executives who would simply do as they're told, and never to worry about the impacts of any change in direction... or moving away from their original mission statement!!(money can do that)

 

what would we begin to see happen??

within each of these .... NZ media?  Our schools? Our Culture? our Families? our industries? our Economy? Our Police-force? our Government?

It requires no guess work... when you understand Newtons 3rd Law

[Ohokaman 5,855]

13 hours ago, 100 1 said:

Ha And that's without even treating them with hydroxychloroquine

One giant scam about the size of the fake climate change....wakey wake people 

How does it feel to have been duped by the media and your own govt?

drain the swamp

Ah yes, hydroxyTrumpyquine....the same drug that Sweden has just told all doctors not to use.....their tests showed it did nothing.

[Ohokaman 5,855]

10 hours ago, Idolmite said:

You're reposting the same old American shit you've already posted. Not relevant. 

And your miracle drug? Let's wait and see eh? Those who actually need it are struggling to get it, and if it proves not to work on Covid-19 it could quite easily end up doing more harm than good. "What have you got to lose?" Only your life.....what would you like those deaths to be recorded as? 

The numbers in America are likely bigger, not smaller, due to their haphazard beginnings to testing, and so many doctors, especially in smaller areas, not having access to testing kits. Some of these people were likely Covid-19 positive but weren't listed as such. 

NZ has certainly made some mistakes, but I'd far rather be here than in Trumpland. 

So would many Americans apparently. Yanks in Lebanon would rather stay there than go back home on Govt flights.....sensible people.

[Nukkledragga 229]

1 hour ago, Ohokaman said:

Ah yes, hydroxyTrumpyquine....the same drug that Sweden has just told all doctors not to use.....their tests showed it did nothing.

The biggest disease is the idea ( mainly american) that you can buy your way out of trouble , that you can literally swallow a magic pill and everything will  be all right.The best solution to this problem is free, just stay home and stop effing moaning and it WILL GO AWAY.We dont need miracle drugs,we dont need ventilators, we dont need buckets of hand sanitiser, just stay home!!! The rest of the world is so much worse off than us just be thankful for the position we are in compared to them.

[Ohokaman 5,855]

Here’s the real information...

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/08/health/drug-hydroxychloroquine-french-study/index.html