Trump 2,741 Report post Posted September 18, 2018 He must be chuckling! A sunny Brisbane day, temp 26, seven rides @$200 a hit and min stakes of $20-25k. Hard to see him going back to NZ - except for the odd Premier ride. Getting rides from leading Stables too. He’s on his way and good on him. Has ridden some really good races on the right horses. ivanthegreat 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtual.Stipe 34 Report post Posted September 19, 2018 He's on his way? Are you his manager or just having a laugh? A win strike rate of 13.4 in Brisbane Metro this season - and that's off the back of two average NZ seasons with SR's of 11.64 and 9.37 respectively. If he continues to ride as he did today 7 rides for a couple of 3rds, and a piss poor effort on SORNJA in the last in Bris: 3 wide the trip, in the last 3 of the field - the only thing he'll be on his way to, is back home to NZ barryb and puha 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted September 19, 2018 Don’t give up your day job VS! Stats can be twisted to suit your agenda. However, let’s look at M2+3’s 2018/19 season so far - in the Brisbane metro racing scene. He’s running 6th and has $362,000 in Stakes, about the same as Jim Byrne. Not bad huh? He’s ridden more winners than Brad Stewart (9th)and Matt McGillivarey (10th). I think he’s doing quite well, establishing himself, getting rides for good stables, riding well and puting his marker down. Oh, and I’m not his Manager nor having a laugh and I’ve yet to back a horse he’s riding. However, I do have an interest in one showing promise with Tony Gollan and as the Manager, I’ve told him I’m happy if he puts M2+3 on her. By the way, his metro strike rate I think is currently 7.5% Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,010 Report post Posted September 19, 2018 Trump I totally agree with you that Mark is riding well in Brisbane. He has ridden several of the horses I have shares in. Always happy to have him on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,978 Report post Posted September 19, 2018 Oh those grandstand riders...they always ride better than the real jocks... Virtual.Stipe 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump 2,741 Report post Posted September 19, 2018 Yes Scoobs, an example is the McEvoy ride on The Autumn Sun a couple of weeks ago. He could not get a run in the straight and was (imho) a certainty beaten. Climbed over the backs of them! Blame the rider? I think that’s racing. Yesterday McEvoy had wins where the Red Sea parted and he came straight through the middle! That’s racing. M2+3 is taking every ride he can get. He has to in order to establish contacts with as many Stables as possible. We are less than 2 months into the 2018/19 racing season and he’s running 6th and has stakes of $362,000 by the latest count. He’s on a running rate to win at least $2m for the year. If he can jag a few Big race wins then he’ll be staying for sure. Jeff Lloyd will retire soon and that willl open up more opportunities for him. Robbie Fradd has gone to Mauritius or some other place and IMO, there’s a big gap between the riding ability of the top 10 metro riders and the rest. He’ll do well I’m picking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,978 Report post Posted September 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, Trump said: Yes Scoobs, an example is the McEvoy ride on The Autumn Sun a couple of weeks ago. He could not get a run in the straight and was (imho) a certainty beaten. Climbed over the backs of them! Blame the rider? I think that’s racing. Yesterday McEvoy had wins where the Red Sea parted and he came straight through the middle! That’s racing. M2+3 is taking every ride he can get. He has to in order to establish contacts with as many Stables as possible. We are less than 2 months into the 2018/19 racing season and he’s running 6th and has stakes of $362,000 by the latest count. He’s on a running rate to win at least $2m for the year. If he can jag a few Big race wins then he’ll be staying for sure. Jeff Lloyd will retire soon and that willl open up more opportunities for him. Robbie Fradd has gone to Mauritius or some other place and IMO, there’s a big gap between the riding ability of the top 10 metro riders and the rest. He’ll do well I’m picking. He will because he has a great work ethic, never stops trying and does not listen to the knockers,wish him well there he is a really good guy and a very decent rider. Virtual.Stipe 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtual.Stipe 34 Report post Posted September 19, 2018 12 hours ago, Trump said: Don’t give up your day job VS! Stats can be twisted to suit your agenda. However, let’s look at M2+3’s 2018/19 season so far - in the Brisbane metro racing scene. He’s running 6th and has $362,000 in Stakes, about the same as Jim Byrne. Not bad huh? He’s ridden more winners than Brad Stewart (9th)and Matt McGillivarey (10th). I think he’s doing quite well, establishing himself, getting rides for good stables, riding well and puting his marker down. Oh, and I’m not his Manager nor having a laugh and I’ve yet to back a horse he’s riding. However, I do have an interest in one showing promise with Tony Gollan and as the Manager, I’ve told him I’m happy if he puts M2+3 on her. By the way, his metro strike rate I think is currently 7.5% Agreed Mr Trump that stats can be twsted to suit your agenda. Hence the Metro 7.5% win rate you state is really a SR of a win every 13.4 rides (5 wins for 67 rides) Comparing Stakes won to NZ Stakes doesn't make you a better rider, just means you are riding in a better industry. But like you said earlier, he's won on the "right horses" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtual.Stipe 34 Report post Posted September 19, 2018 10 hours ago, scooby3051 said: Oh those grandstand riders...they always ride better than the real jocks... The wonderful thing about all sports: arm chair critics everywhere - aka fans Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget 4,489 Report post Posted September 19, 2018 Agree with the positive comments. Mark is a complete professional and has a great work ethic. These are a couple of the reasons Royce Dowling supported Mark when he originally came out here. He will be missed in NZ, but completely understand if he decides to stay in Queensland. I will miss the money he donates to me at golf, but it is what it is. Virtual.Stipe 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contentious 616 Report post Posted September 20, 2018 49 minutes ago, Midget said: Agree with the positive comments. Mark is a complete professional and has a great work ethic. These are a couple of the reasons Royce Dowling supported Mark when he originally came out here. He will be missed in NZ, but completely understand if he decides to stay in Queensland. I will miss the money he donates to me at golf, but it is what it is. Midget - what has happened to your mate - 16 ounce ? gone very quiet lately is he on vacation, has he lost his ipad or is there an explosion brewing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad 1,559 Report post Posted September 20, 2018 True there is a lot of armchair critics, but also must be many owners that get frustrated with paying for poor rides, and let's face it even the best have them, La Zip 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerula 1,403 Report post Posted September 20, 2018 Rode my first winner. Pity he didn't stay around. Stick said he was very kind on his mounts and suppose suited fillies as they can say no. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...