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  1. Wings of Eagles wins Derby - by Pour Moi!
  2. Agree most race horse trainers and those associated with putting in the long hours needed at the track are totally dedicated and hard working types. There are not many "born with a silver spoon in their mouth" types at the race track at 5.30am!
  3. Jimmy Choux was a great race horse but doesn't have a very strong female line. Not that that means a stallion with an average female line can't be successful, but it is certainly one of the key things to look at when deciding on a stallion. Shocking also doesn't have a very strong female line and is doing well enough. Dalghar has a very strong female line, albeit he wasn't a 'top' race-horse.
  4. Definitely a "wait and see". Pentire has no history of siring successful stallions as yet. He won't have the cream of mares so will have to "do it on his own merits". He isn't a stallion I would send a mare to (personal opinion only) - couldn't win a GP1 in NZ, and only won a GP3 in Oz. Plus was unplaced in half of his 22 races. The studs always gloss over how many unplaced races their stallions have - I wonder why!. Anyway, all the best for Mapperley, as Pentire has been a great stallion and it would be nice to see his sire line successfully continue.
  5. These have been my thoughts for decades. Really good to see this great post by Midget. Racing can't continue as it is with the number of tracks we have, most of which are devoid of people most of the time (except Christmas etc). Our total population is less than Melbourne, and a lot less than Sydney. Also good to see mention that we don't need concrete edifices anymore! Go to tracks like Caloundra on the Sunshine Coast and see their facilities. There is still time to save this industry!
  6. Could have had a better record at stud if he had gone to a well known stud and had better mares. Top bloodlines of course being by Zabeel out of Eight Carat, therefore a full brother to Octagonal, three quarter to Don Eduardo, Kaapsted etc etc. He managed to sire 10 stakes winners from just over 200 to race, a pretty good effort considering the quality of mares he served. More disappointing at stud was Don Eduardo.
  7. Horsetalk, they have gone the way of the cassette player, the fondu set, and the record player - more junk to add to our landfill and the world's pollution!
  8. "The Karaka Million does distort the 2yo First Season sires Premiership.If you look into Power's pedigree you will see this is not a 2yo family, so expect much more when they get to 3yo's and above. After all this is the Bruce Lowe number one family.Some examples of great family number one are- High Chaparral, Shirley Heights, Swynford ,Blenheim, Phalaris...etc." As previously discussed on here back in April, as above, Power is a descendant of the great "blue hen" mare Malva (who is Blenheim's dam). I agree that Power's progeny should be far better as three year olds.
  9. All my thoughts are with her family tonight. Such a tragedy.
  10. Of course you are making the correct decision morayfm, Melbourne is a great place to race a horse. Also cheaper and quicker to get to than flying from the top to the bottom of NZ. You can also race a horse with modest ability at a country midweek meeting at places like Moe, Sale, Benalla etc, for the equivalent of our Saturday stakes. And a good horse is always racing in the city for roughly 80k minimum. Why wouldn't you? I think you are also correct about our conditions for breeding, especially if we go back to our knitting and breed good staying types. The fields for staying races in Victoria are not good quality and should be a good target for NZ bred horses with stamina.
  11. I can't see him attracting mares if over 10k. Staying stallions equal another 1-2 years training costs for owners and at 30k per annum, you wouldn't pay more than 10k in my view. Interesting that Americain started at stud in Australia at 12k from memory. I am interested to see his full tabulated pedigree and family record though.
  12. No surprize. The number of NZ buyers at the RTR sale was abysmal. With stakes so low, rearing and training costs always going up, and therefore the actual cost of buying the horse being a decreasing % of the total costs for the next 3-5 years, horses with poor conformation and/or pedigree are not going to find a ready market. The situation is only going to deteriorate, and is only being saved by the strong asian and Australian buying bench who are prepared to pay well for good conformation and pedigree.
  13. It is a huge increase in numbers, but the numbers of unsold horses went from 143 last year to 258 this year, ie 115 more horses taken home. Another figure not provided by NZB - I wonder why!?
  14. of course the usual hype from NZB of the great increase in average and median price, but nothing about the 40% of entries which didn't sell.
  15. I would have thought that the "Winston" party was our populist party Midget? I hope you aren't suggesting we go back to "first past the post" as a system of electing our government. Although MMP isn't perfect, it at least gives individuals who may not like the two main parties some confidence their vote will count for something. GM is just testing the waters. Personally I don't think his party will get off the ground but he is a clever guy who thinks outside the square so good luck to him I say - and I will be interested to see what policies he has. He also says what he thinks, and has no political baggage or apparent agenda, so maybe he our new populist guy??
  16. Your post is excellent common sense BruceL. I wish Dalghar all success, and all feedback about the Kings is they are very nice people. Hopefully he isn't one of the 95% of stallions who, despite all the hype and glossy brochures don't measure up to what their promoters think or hope they will. My only negative is that on the basis of one listed winner they raised his stud fee from 6k to 8k, - "The Aga Khan-bred grey has stood at a fee of $6,000 since 2012, but with a number of talented first-crop performers headed by the impressive Listed ARC Champagne Stakes winner Astara, his fee has been raised" - which is typical of the sales spiel talk studs use. In my view his fee increase was totally unwarranted until the stallion has proven himself, and having one listed winner doesn't mean he has (proven himself).
  17. Interesting that I Am Invincible was a straight out sprinter. Dixieland Band is a great source of stamina, so clearly the 'nick' worked well for I Am A Star to win at 1600 metres, plus the 49kg weight played a big part too! Makes you think that the mare mated to Shocking might have too much stamina in the pedigree.
  18. I see the winner of the Myer today sold for 12k as a weanling at Karaka in 2014, and her dam Star Band was sold at the same sale for a measly 2k, and in foal to Shocking! Another great buy, similar to the 1.5k paid for Tarzinos dam a couple of years back. Good luck to them. Like lotto you need to be in to win!!
  19. Hi Trump, You are right about the Sunshine Coast track, no crappy ancient concrete edifice facing south, no brown carpet, formica tables and chairs or toilets that are stained or don't flush etc etc. The terraced and shaded viewing areas are lovely, and it just feels good being there!.
  20. Midget, I was having this conversation in Taranaki over 35 years ago, and they still have race-courses at Wanganui, Waverley, Hawera, Stratford, and New Plymouth. In this case they aren't quite one hour from any of the others as the other three are between New Plymouth and Wanganui - it's a drive of just under 2 hours between Wanganui and New Plymouth. But the population base for this whole area is far less than the Waikato and there are five courses. There is always historical parochial interest in keeping your own track, and I don't blame locals for their sentiments, however misguided they are, but it does make it hard for them to see the big picture, that racing isn't what it was in the 1960s and 1970s. It's interesting that growing up in Hawera in the 1960s and 1970s, the town was bustling and all shops were occupied with 'proper' retail outlets. Now, although the population of Hawera hasn't gone down, the shopping area is deserted. Why? Simply because people don't think twice about hopping in their car, travelling down a great road, and going to New Plymouth or Wanganui to shop, and they don't think anything of living in New Plymouth or Wanganui and driving an hour to work at the large Fonterra plant at Hawera. So people interested in racing will still go if there were one or two 'decent' tracks in this region. Again, as with the Waikato it needs a pooling of resources, and leadership, not dictatorship, from above.
  21. Great post Midget. We have too many tracks, and too little money to upgrade facilities to the level the public expect in the 21st century. We have greatly changed how towns and cities operate with great roads and fast cars. Having areas like Waikato with four courses, all within 45 minutes drive of each other, and all having what I call 1970s facilities is not going to engender any interest whatsoever in racing from the younger generations. Pooling resources, selling off, or retaining sources for training only if applicable, and buying an unimproved rural property to build a top class racing and equine facility - which would also have function rooms non racing people would want to use, may sound radical, but isn't it needed for the survival and rejuvenation of the industry?
  22. I haven't done this but it is a really good question. Maybe the main issues are around any costs, and at exactly what day the arrangement (lease) is to start and stop, ie does the lessee keep the mare until the foal is weaned? What if the owner (lessor) wants to get the mare back in foal at first heat after the foal is born - who is responsible for agistment costs etc when the mare goes to a stud with the new foal which belongs to the lessee? Cafers who have done this will likely have answers ot these questions.
  23. A great post, and really hits the nail on the head I think - so what if it's only a dream; life is short. The only difference between me and you Catalano is that my wife talked me INTO giving it away!
  24. Most stallions don't live up to the hype given when they first arrive, and Per Incanto will (IMHO) be just another also ran. One or two good horses from a first crop doesn't translate into a success, but the studs are very quick to up the service fee on the back of a couple of promising types. Certainly doesn't justify more than a 6-7k service fee in my view.
  25. Agree. Although I haven't seen him (Raise the Flag), his dam left 7 stakes-winners from 8 foals including Dansili, so I can't see Northern Hemisphere breeders letting him go easily if they thought he would make a successful sire. All the best to his connections though, and the South Island has produced some amazing stallions also with no race form but great pedigrees (Mellay for example).