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  1. bit late in the day however... Those racecafers who might be aware I've hobby blogged genotype pedigrees & breeding at specifics which aren't common. www.thethoroughbredlink.com has been for a long time FREE. We've needed to step up into the game , so this is it...… https://thethoroughbredlink.com/selections/ (if the link don't work: the TBL menu goes under What's coming....) Everything you need to consider is on the page and menu. Otherwise contact. Thx/Cheers TBL
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    Are races getting faster?

    watch videos of being on a horses back and you get an impression speed (or going fast) is racing, tempo and pace, to its endurance to win, accounts The Ability. The Human ideals of what is meant by fast, matched by the clock is perception only. There is no doubt in my mind it is the quadrilateral action, bio-mechanics what has the edge.
  3. From reading the recent edition , Informant's bloodstock article - Winx and Enable not the only Queens of the Turf, I took with some amusement and quote "I am well aware that some of the most respected pedigree experts maintain that such quality females are constructed pedigree-wise in particular fashions. I have always struggled to subscribe to these ideas, although I hasten to add that they may well be correct. Anyone who could care to enlighten me please do" Not the expert....more pedigree aficionado (even junkie, will do thanks) where most 'ideas' are yes indeed, the evaluation of what appears on paper. Well...it is the nature of independent research. With everybody & each to their own 'expertize' - these pedigree interpretation(s), 'ideas' - are our attempts to convey any/every interesting bit, morsel, of the pedigree jig-saw puzzle, just as the writers article has and as does the other enlightening Informant article Temperament an undefined but important part of the thoroughbred make-up. After New Year I blogged https://thethoroughbredlink.com/2019/01/07/the-super-nova-of-fillies-mares/ You have to agree...the devil-in-detail of pedigrees is always surprising....and it is how the devil is applied through innovative breeding which capitalizes on essential or unavoidable traits within the individuals pedigree. How do you really think you are going to achieve, 'construct' pedigree-wise (as the writer puts it) any superior performer without these. Please tell..... By putting the lens on the pedigree not from the obvious, conservative approach but towards what is not obvious - it all goes a lot further and a long way more interesting because that is the very nature of genetics, albeit inconclusive. I cannot take any credibility for this expert and her article https://www.sport-horse-breeder.com/stamina-gene.html however yours truly here, was humbly credited through such 'ideas'. ALL useful information & research is to 'act', inspire or enlighten the public: they are not 'opinions' or, 'ideas' but at least they may be innovative to the new breeder and to an industry crying out for new blood.
  4. I am the writer/blogger of www.thethoroughbredlink.com - Waikato region NZ based and am looking for quality resources that if possible, I may borrow for a short-duration. Guaranteed they will be returned! Any older books towards racing greats, thoroughbred breeding from Britain, America or Germany, & Australia, N.Z and or of, rarer photos would be great! Anything considered and with much appreciation if you can kindly help. PM - thank you. Cheers, TBL
  5. Thoroughbred Womens Network is an american non-profit organization. https://www.thoroughbredwomensnetwork.org/. Please read their mission statement. As a collective community, it brings women together with only requirement (at any level of interest) towards thoroughbreds & racing, whether experienced or not. It's a directory, referral and support/sharing based. It has been helpful in aiding young women into the industry by those women better experienced to advise accordingly. It would be great if something like this could be established in New Zealand. Are women here, interested in establishing something similar along these lines? You do not have to be experienced or horse industry qualified. Those 'interested' may have any skills to offer voluntarily like legal, counselling, IT, social media, administrative. Anything. Even if its about finding mutual friendships that is fine. Let's be clear it is not a #meto movement: it will be a proactive community where women can progress with confidence. Presently, there is no FB page. Please PM or email tblwinners@gmail.com subject line (WOMENS NETWORK) to indicate an interest. If there is a sufficient number we will hopefully do a informal 'meet and greet' and see how it evolves from there. Any other beneficial ideas are welcome. Looking forward to your interest.
  6. yeah you're right - sort of. With background to the proposal... it was years back & I don't know whether she is still around or not, Trent Busettin's grandmother at Castletown motels - Foxton, ran a ladies racing group. She herself, a very insightful lady. Something that has stuck with me over the years. Good sound knowledge there's the thing, isn't it? You have correctly guessed - TBL is gender minority Irrespective of gender, age, wider social interaction, its engagement, has become widely indifferent with overall management/ leadership culture presided from NZR. Personally, I'm bored, its stale and as we know, dysfunctional imbalanced. On the other side, the opprobrium with brushes under the carpet & then, till its too late for some 'minority figure' . To the case of the CD trainer, a tutt-tutt for the industry: It shouldn't happen (but it does and it will again)to the young girl who has had to handle the unprofessional conduct. A friend of mine, his niece, was just another 'some body', passionate, willing to learn, but got pregnant at the stables. End of the road. What or who prefers ignorance, as better? These girls, they come unfortunately naïve & because they love horses albeit romantically. Even NZR brands it LoveRacing - suggesting its a bed of roses. Flair (NZ) has ladies wearing the fascinator; pleasure and thrills of horse racing BUT you guys know there is hell of a lot more to the game than that. Constant interminable dynamics around racing and horses. Boys Get Paid - their incentive from getting their thing done a better way. This is no different. "scientia potentia est"
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    Best of Days

    I would hope most breeders would appreciate the strength and depth genotype esp. Shirley Heights. Get your point on maternal but feel its slight to the quality strains elsewhere. I think its a sire pedigree which will punch above its weight but kind of wonder will NZ breeding get enthusiasm about getting back on track to staying quality. I would hope so buts its a long haul admittedly. Another factor in the pedigree is King's Best. His sire Kingmambo is Cross Counter (GB) - broodmare Sire. King's Best dam Allegretta, dam of Urban Sea, dam of Galileo. International lines staring you in the face. Azamour dam breeding, same female family The Autumn Sun!! (Redoutes Choice) So many crosses working with Sadlers Wells/Danehill but I also see the pedigree fits many places elsewhere. All best with your decision making. TBL https://thethoroughbredlink.com/2018/10/01/genus-reflects-the-autumn-sun/
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    A Sport of National Interest

    I also think of the many possibilities or opportunities that just slip by, through, and are sort of forgotten. LOVE Racing media site appears isolated, doesn't cut the mustard or is piece-meal without any drive, strategy to it. I tend to see tit-bits of info, without the impetus to a great sport with great personalities of all ages. We've exported, driven, or given away a lot of industry talent both horses & people which amazes me why we can't applaud them further in some manner. Reading forums opinions & idea, there are some positive solutions which go unheeded/ignored because there isn't the personnel or group behind it to take ideas forwards. I really like what BOYSGETPAID are doing (young innovative heads). Could we 'raise hands' and position a 'collective' group through Racecafe: re-boot in the cause of Innovation, marketing or as otherwise specified ????? Be enthused.
  9. 2 cents worth... Think the document an 'offer' on the table. Its sly agenda to pave a contractual way for the government to gain the FINANCIAL INSTRUMENT to sell off courses.The CONSENT or giving AUTHORITY to do so as AGREEMENT by consensus - so don't come with regret if you think different. NZ racing long time in demise, weakened by NZTR macro to the micro. Gets to the sad case where most are saving their own skin and or, are happy with their lot. Practices/ processes around the industry, not the case of best horse wins, but smartest horse or should I say those in the clever KNOW but unbeknown to 'us' who are horribly blissed by such ignorance and kept that way in this game, until lessons or questions teach us otherwise. Whilst greater ownership stake monies for compensating owner investment is supposedly The Way to SaveUs All, I think $$$$ still won't genuinely fix the basics. Its our IP image to the world going strongly amiss. Yes the millennial generation are savvy, innovative and passionate but so where 'we' when younger, its a changing reality we're in. I suppose this why Messara suggests accountability, professional qualification upgrading the 'image' or credibility of NZ racing. There is so many individual entities, re: clubs, board, Jockey, Training, Breeders Association(s) who want membership & money for survival but don't show interest in entrepreneurship. Yeah, I'm gray-haired to but them grey hairs are 'fixed' and 'oh, we can't do THAT' mentality (because of $ & authority) stages doom n' gloom (still). We loved our ol' Racing days, the heritage and the horses which showed 'em all i.e. Balmerino . This a BRAND making which we've slipped up on and we are NOT slick at it at all. (think social media attention around Winx, products, passionate people, media interests etc). Anyone ever thought of Chris Waller and Winx doing a home-town public tour show when/if she retires (as idea)? Mark Todd & Charisma did & the kids loved it). Can we use James MacDonald as a mentor to youth, Micheal Walker..... will why not for god's sake. We have to hone down our own breeding 'rights' to on a collective scale. Bloodlines that can't be brought back....(my eyes water at this) When it comes down to it ...there is NO LEADERSHIP which sees the big wide picture to a greater stage, and that is what is really the most frustrating of it all. We need to 'specialize' something 'ours' acutely fast and smart and take it to the world. Awkwardly, I suppose we will be having to accept the model given and its changing-of-the-guard.
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    Inbreeding to Danehill

    Seriously, I get so very frustrated at the Danehill idol. Like breeding machinery Danehill swept acoss the breed, and particularly Australasia to serve speed purpose which is now backsliding upon the mass average. (no fact here, only opinion!) by quoting..."nothing is easier than to improve a breed; to, say, increase the average milk yield of a moderate herd by using proved sires of higher yield; but if you ever read a position where you have nothing better to use for improvement, retrogression is the rule. Having improved the special traits of the racehorse by stringent selection to the limit of speed, the tendency to retrogression is sometimes so great that our utmost efforts may do no more then prevent further retrogression. In other words, selection no longer causes progress. Peter Burrell, then direction of the English National stud - Principles of Thoroughbred Breeding. This is/has happened now.... Swynford and Berri putting folks in right direction. aside from the Danehill issue am attempting to put commentary on the big,wide subject. https://thethoroughbredlink.com/2018/08/20/mating-for-superiority/
  11. Coming from a different philosophy (not theory or system) and Encouraged by some international interest to my TBL pedigree blogging posts www.thethoroughbredlink.com , thought it was high-time to put it down here! Its primed upon importance of maternal families and engaging the female family tables so it might be of interest to a few who apply these for breeding in their own right. i.e. not commercial sale. Food for thought and all that. Enjoy. Also on FB - The Thoroughbred Link. Cheers.
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    Good vs Bad trainers

    - Blame??? you've taken all I have expressed out of context and can't take a back-hand compliment to yourself when it is given. I try to understand another's point of view, for the ultimate benefit of the horse as to get best outcome or her. You would know there are many fine-point decisions through training as I recognise now as owner. Don't understand why you are so hostile? Only trying to reconcile differences that 'newer' racing people can experience.
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    Good vs Bad trainers

    No Midget, I bow down to your powers or Knowledge, which actually I greatly admire & note - even so with your cynical humour. not an expert as you qualify (buy hey, I'll take that compliment if it is intended - always observing/noting following things through best way one can. Unfortunately got into racing as something on my bucket list and found a festival buy at $13,500 which turns out to be as quoted est. $500K should she go through as a broodmare at auction. No I haven't made that one up either where trainer's uncle is management at NZ Bloodstock thank you. FYI , that 1st ever buy at bloodstock wasn't luck. Elite Bloodlines have the story so that is my expertise albeit it Skill/research? You share your intelligence as you like BUT don't fart on us forum newcomers who stick their neck out and actively share thoughts/experiences 'cause there are some out there who want to really Learn or discuss how it works. Okay?
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    Good vs Bad trainers

    good or bad trainer is the experience you get. Also will greatly depend on your own interest to the deal/horse. There are infinitely numerous dynamics and variables as skills upon training and it is not tell you see some right/wrong 'patterns' or an open disclosure from others experiences that you MAY just bite your lip. it dawned on me that it is NOT the trainer per say, but the stables and operation or how the training is approached with professionalism and as a business structure versus old-fashioned horsemanship of the better small trainers. Yet, large stables will carry a 'brand'/logo which widely influences peoples perspective as 'better'. More horses go through, more so it is a numbers game to get the right one and or, as they develop up and also 'better' clientele with the pockets. From own experience (& not having the pocket) but when going to a top trainer and went to visit my girl, only to see the foreman ran the shift-operation and the trainer seemed always away though we booked our 'visit in advance only to find they where busy tending to a noted stud & their horses. That was okay, tell the phone went and there was a problem with her rearing in track work. Got her home and couldn't make out anything wrong. Gave her a long spell. Went to a small trainer (old slow patient methods) and horribly learnt had the wool pulled over our eyes ..... by two pre-trainers breaking tactics & their feed-back ( 2nd one from above trainer operation). I shopped around for ages, looking for 'right' trainer who might fit the horse. He is a battler and good trainer ( in my eyes) because of right inputs for the horse. There was a lot of re-education. Yet by others their accounts he doesn't rate ...yet got other horses going for a large renowned stable to have them winning. No credit given back either. ranting on the mare..... I know/he knows and other reputable ex-jockeys have ridden to know she has 'it' by how she feels in the saddle but can't (to date) get the result. Why...and this is what I mean by big stables having a reputation/ 'brand' /logo to securing top jockeys & enforcing their 'might' elsewhere I might add. So.... The mare likes clean space and to lead out in front and she has more than enough to at the very least pick up some stakes. But what do the jockeys do, ignore instructions, pull her back and get her in a pocket time & time again. Then pull the whip out - she goes backwards cause they can't get the best out of her. The Feedback from jockey is 'wet' nonsense. So I went to ex Dave O'sullivan jockey/staff) ) and asked what do you reckon is going on.... Greater trainers know how to fine-tune. Jockeys make or break the horse, hence make her break the stables/trainers reputation. Its all inclusive. The innate skills of good riders & greater riding is not there, cause of change of apprenticeship standards and the idea of professional riding has changed to accommodate racing as we know it today. There's the pity. There are 'bad' trainers out there who are just plain farming clients & their money. Those are the horses, where the owners are well away from the situation by location or are gullible in themselves that they are satisfactorily trained and can accept a 'gentle-lie' - mate, your horse is well and eating well. Yeah...don't that sound nice! Stats on trainers don't mean a things....its the horse all-right but I fear (better) small trainers don't get honest chance. It's an industry problem.
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    RIU V G Ville

    right on.... these ReD Badge people, like kids are given police control and authority and that is the real danger and a power they exploit. It must be a concern which racing has to address, as it is causing 'injury' to those who matter. Really must be remedied.
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    Deeply Sad News

    The Purcell personalities of this BS world always have secured top brass positions because they fulfil a role, not for the common good of 'us' but for officialdom for those above as to perform 'duty' as a smoke-screen for the club. That people is how the SYSTEM works and you can follow the similar modis operandi of government corporate everywhere. When it gets too embarrassing, too hot for the top brass, they get shoved. In other words they are pawns and the puppet with no backbone. You either laugh, cry, feel sorrow or curse....but just maybe you will find the next CEO will say, " yes, yes, and yes....I'll do this, that....blah blah" when really they just don't have any jurisdiction to do anything but cover the wolf in sheep's clothing. Don't go back to sleep....apply more pressure and you will eventually find they have to listen more and more.
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    Street Cry - et al.

    Good work - keep it up, keep posting. I came across an old self-published book by John Gibson (then of Cambridge, born Picton 1918) A Guide to handling Horses. Basically it is all his old-school knowledge of horses, horse-days, skills, tactics and observations. What a wise old gentleman he is/was..... He won the 1991 Waikato Gold Cup with Dealers Charm - his 1st attempt at training a race horse. He dabbled in breeding both horses and dogs (over decades of experience/observation) Quotes: "It is difficult to convince breeder's that it is possible to over egg the pudding by concentrating too many influences for high quality in a pedigree as the results tend to be the production of too much nervous energy with horse's very excitable, nervous or constitution weakness. Wealthy business man who come into racing and breeding without any knowledge or understanding of it often seem unable to grasp that, breeding the best, with the best, does not necessarily result in the best. If you breed to out cross sire's with every mating of your mare instead of mating to a stallion that is rich in her own genes, this is the quickest and surest way to ruin, that a breeder of horses can follow. Out Cross matings occasionally can work but the success rate in relation is below the luck of Line bred matings to which the selected parents pass on a network of similar superior ability to the foal. The breeding horses by out crossing completely different blood lines and genes result in full brothers and sisters being so unlike each other, where the line bred parents leave stock very uniform in type and ability with the same temperament which will co-operate that makes the training and handling of them more of a pleasure. It has been my experience during my sixty years with horses that far more cross bed horses were more difficult to handle than others that were of the same blood line." END.
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    New low at Te Rapa

    not knocking any of these horses.... but just like the punting propaganda that went with Xtravagant/Heroic Valour the same with Hall of Fame. I find it fascinating how/why the favourites are accounted on Te Akau. I find the Te Akau/DE brand machine just odd/weird/eccentric to see how DE was standing over Opie giving the COMMANDING PERFORMANCE instructions - Jamie Richards stepping right back. I felt Opie's body language just went 'off' even before the race started. Sad, really. Still, I got Prince M. - so that made the day.
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    RIU V G Ville

    I've noticed the Red Badge security as 'brand' is over-using its powers (aggressively, some want to be intimidating) OR, employees don't have a clue about the principle of real safety. another CD trainer (Trentham again) had teen-daughter doing the errands when she was stopped by RB personnel and not allowed through. So he (dad) came over to assist where personnel got intimidating/rude/ abusive & ready to report him. So he had to go to the office and get 'that' permission, and that person said you apologise to RB to make it okay for them! He did so, then RB calmed down and was alright about it. Thing is...could personnel not notice he had brain surgery recently, still in recovery mode needing help. Unbelievable. So at Hastings the other day, a bundle of balloons floated down from the public-stand very close to the bird-cage. RB personnel stares into space at them. This is less than few minutes before horses are due. The balloons float about a bit - she still doesn't get it, does she. The breeze carries them along the public entrance and she then decides to dawdle off slower than a toddler. She didn't get them. Gave up. Thing is Red Badge is gaining its bad publicity and giving the experience on race-course a bad image to, I feel. May not be the intention but that is the result. Was at New Plymouth early spring sometime ?(don't think it was RB) but the security people there where offensive in several incidences. I can accept security may have a job....but some people training wouldn't go amiss, would it. It was like clearing customs/immigration at San Francisco airport and getting told-off and scanned by officialdom. I am 59 years, well-dressed female, polite to people, TB member but not a puppet so I won't be going back for more.
  20. would like to know how others appraise? i.e. horse/pedigree or 'brand' (of syndicator) or social/entertainment factors or level of investment what are your positive experiences? what are your 'negatives' ? was there anything you wish you had known before or think of what others need to know before signing up for the record - im not associated with any syndication/syndicator - a 1 horse-pony here Cheers, thx in advance.
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    Tony Kaye appeal

    You can read Tony's story here. https://www.facebook.com/Tony-Kayes-Fight-Against-Cancer-1259258397473360/ https://givealittle.co.nz/cause/tonyfightagainstcancer Tony Kaye, CD trainer and owner/trainer of G 1 winner Iamishwara
  22. For mum, family & kids...see little, if any 'value', in that entry fee and aside from racing there is little but to stare round at the kiwi culture: get wasted and the younger set getting-it-on. Well, that's okay if that has the intention for turn-over but leaves plenty out of it. Few years back, I recall Punchestown (Ireland) at its racing carnival for 25 euros entry per person. Now, that was a day out. Great exhibitions, quality 'trades', retail, art/craft, song & theatre, bars and eateries for all tastes - it just didn't stop and then their was the racing and the crowd. Brilliant the whole experience. Can't figure why racing clubs can't/won't turn their hand to 'go' entrepreneurial and think outside of the box like above, to get more people (outside of race goers) on course. The side-line attractions don't have to be near the stands or horses. Enough room, surely.
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    Hall Of Fame - "ironic"??

    Anyone is welcome to build their credibility (stable, horse, etc) - no rights or wrongs, just that you do it. Putting oneself into the limelight in Nz society/culture is something we don't do very easily since humbleness is or was the virtue! I find the speculation around the stallion career rather too premature. Once again we have assumptions that 'good' breeding, as racehorse is a quality stallion for breeding - so here, the marketing is building/beginning. I might like the pedigree but wouldn't be convinced (as yet) on the future stallion merits.
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    Disgusting Language on Trackside

    When the topic went up I thought to myself like really, really??? WTF - really? I love the diversity in the forum: LMAO Personalities of the racing culture come in all shapes and sizes but its the unpredictability of EVERYTHING that stops life from been boring. Trackside attempts to ensure one is to believe the fantasy world: the propaganda created with PC'ness - that 'life' is sweet with just a bit of sweat for the ladies. Reality-check: its blood-sweat and tears for most at any level (of occupation). The joy & recognition is rightfully earned from heart-ache after heart-ache amidst BS people and the pain & agony others have to endure on their behalf until they and 'if' they get-their-time with a winner. Frankly I find the Thread creation as intended, is narcissism at its best.
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    Horse Breeding

    They shall reference core bloodlines which continually influence and dominate breeding known as black-type producers & are the 'top-tiered' or elite families and if you where getting into breeding, this is what you would best purchase on as principle. For instance the 'bruce-lowe, family number assigned to Northern Dancer, Danehill, Halo, Machiavellian & others all trace to Almahoud as dam. i.e. family 2d to produce stallions. Redoute's Choice aka Dancing Show maternal line aka 8f family - a dominate siring family line. Encosta de Lago via Franfreluche is another dominate siring family line. Filly producing families, generally the 'speed' factors come from likes of family 1 - say Monjeu's dam...Floripedes. Elite lines do not automatically mean they are always race-performers as such talk is sales-banter equates to ' a good-type on pedigree'. By the same token race-performance colts , as stallions, are not strictly 'breeders' in the barn. They can be 'effeminate' - those traits which gave them the desired speed. You need the balance of the two with physical assessment - as the rest is 'unknown - caveat emptor! https://wordpress.com/post/thethoroughbredlink.com/1278 an article referencing these dynamics Lot 29 RR.