SMD is rife

What's the take on the FF book?

FFS some people get confused very easily don't they Kloppite. The sub is the horse that has attracted the most bets (in $ value) on the win tote. Its highly unlikely two horses have exactly the same dollar amount on them. It has nothing to do with takeouts. Remember the TAB round down every win dividend to the nearest 10c which is a massive rip off. So if horse A was paying $4.29 as a raw dividend and horse B $4.21 they will both show $4.20 but horse B will be the sub. Yes Gruff I'm bagging the TAB. I don't work there, never have, but no need to concede you got another thing wrong, we've come to expect that from you.

on their pre-rounded tote win price.

No Barry, they always say a minimum of 5%. Some combos are 5%, some are 6%. And what's so hard to understand about it?

No Barry, you need to read Page 195 of the betting rules.

Seriously this thread shows how stupid people are (Kloppite excluded) when it comes understanding the fundamentals of punting.

What about all the hush payments they have had to make to ex employees to ensure they don't tell the world how bad the management is? I wonder what cost centre these payments come out off?

100% true

There was a trotter in the late 1980s who won his maiden at his 92nd start. He had accumulated 12 seconds prior to that win.

Hence the mention of the fixed odds system and using golf betting as a comparison in his post.

Yes they did offer fixed odds betting. Best Mr Notts wipes the egg off his face.

there was a hurdle race on New Year's Day as recently as 2005.

When you were an owner the caddy gates were still in operation. Talk about moaning for the sake of moaning.

What's the easy solution you speak of? Remove the name altogether and lose out on the revenue?

Exactly. So what's it worth in your mind for that inconvenience?