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LightsOut last won the day on September 30 2019

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  1. LightsOut

    Inca collapse

    Okay that makes sense police started investigating and then operation INCA formed. Odd though phone recording done before the Operation was established. Like I said before some really bad info was given to police. https://www.vice.com/en_nz/article/59d85d/why-were-police-tapping-the-phones-of-nz-human-rights-activists
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    Inca collapse

    Someone help me out here. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From the JCA judicial decision relating to N Mc Intyre. The race in question was 31st March 2018. (5) Unbeknown at that time to the Stewards or Inspectors of Harness Racing and the RIU, a police operation pursuant to an Interception Warrant issued by a High Court Judge, had, amongst other things, revealed telephone conversations between Mr McGrath and “A” on 29 March 2018 (first from “A” to the Respondent) and on 30 March 2018 Press release re INCA How could the police have recordings relating to McGrath on March 29th when it wasn't until April 2018 when it's stated they started investigating????
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    Inca collapse

    One should be able to obtain under Official Information Act the process that started INCA. If it is shown that the Police started the investigation from information given to them by the RIU and then the RIU has been shown to have lied at an official judicial proceeding any good lawyer will seek to have any evidence in his client's involvement in INCA supplied by the RIU thrown out of court on the basis that they have proven to have lied in an official judicial proceeding relating to the matter.
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    Inca collapse

    The RIU saying it didn't know of the police investigation investigating INCA is laughable. What mixed up outfit is this. So the whole debacle which was looking very suspect from the beginning hasn't produced to date the serious Integrity concerns that were reported initially in the media and now the RIU are throwing the Police under the bus. If RIU is lying and if they did so at a JCA hearing the Racing Minister needs to be informed accordingly. Here is an appointed Agency founded to ensure that the Racing Industry operates within the rules and with integrity at all times and they have shown themselves to be totally lacking in Integrity. If they did indeed lie it makes it worse that it occurred at a JCA hearing. If proven they did lie and if I was Nigel McGrath I would be instructing my lawyer to immediately start proceedings for my conviction to be overturned on the basis that the RIU committed perjury by falsifying an affirmation to tell the truth concerning matters relating to an official proceeding. The RIU can't be considered to have been a reliable and credible witness if it can be proven to have lied at an official judicial proceeding. 5th September 2018 https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/racing/race-fixing-investigation-seven-banned-racecourses
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    Inca collapse

    I think you got mixed up there and you were actually reading the script for 'Mission Impossible 7'. Either that or the NZ Police are watching far too many crime action movies.
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    Inca collapse

    Wasting Industry definitely but what about the tax payers money. Millions spent by the NZ Police already on a situation that I am guessing they didn't want to even become involved with and probably told the RIU its a racing matter under your rules you follow it up. It reads between the lines that pressure was put on the police to get involved and the picture was portrayed by so called Industry experts as has subsequently been shown to be way over the top. Unfortunately the police on this matter have no previous experience ,no understanding of the Industry both in how races are run and gambling and were poorly advised. No doubt the Racing Commissioner was demanding results on millions spent on an investigation but so far after many months as indicated above the return on money and time spent is embarrassing. What has cost more than the millions spent is the damage that it has created from the image of the Industry from the public perceptive. It really does make wonder just how much idea those in control of the RIU actually have of the NZ Racing and Gambling Industry when this situation has been allowed to happen. It's Ionic that the Industry is looking to make radical changes by way of an Act for it's survival and financial well being and yet here is a department (RIU) that the Industry pays millions to each year adding to it's troubled plight. Hollywood wouldn't buy the rights to this story as the public wouldn't believe it could happen.
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    Another Balls Up by Andy Kydd

    Sadly like most of the current management in a position that is well out of their depth, which given past and recent results totally confirms.
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    Winston not happy with Brian de Licker ?

    Your right I just heard that he is looking to supply the item below to all and sundry in the Industry to help that move forward. He received one for Xmas and swears by it for its help to move forward.
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    Winston not happy with Brian de Licker ?

    Go and put a fee on bets placed in Australia on NZ based sporting games. Trade relation reciprocity exists between NZ and Australia so does anyone with half a brain not think that Australia will turn around and mirror the fee. Not hard top work out who the big real loser will be when it happens. Bad call including sports in the collection of fees they will open up a can of worms that will see the Industry having to fork out millions more than they receive. To be fair probably in line with the current Government's thinking so no surprise really. The racing side of reciprocity between the two countries works out fine but once again the Racing Industry will pay the huge price involving Sports. Remember it took them a while to finally work out that if you want to pay the same sporting odds as overseas that's great for the punter but sadly not so great for the Industry when you factor in your still going to have to pay the NZ sporting codes for bets taken on overseas sports games that involve their sports. That will work well getting clipped on the ticket in both countries on sports betting. %$#k me.
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    Winston not happy with Brian de Licker ?

    2003 Wellington Cup Stake $250,000 - 2020 Wellington Cup Stake $250,000 - and this new Bill is going to double the stakes?? must be one hell of plan when in 17 years that race hasn't seen $.01 added to it. Unfortunately living in Fairy Land aka 106-110 Jackson Street Petone Ha ha they said they were going to change a lot of things. Poor old Winston has jumped the gates a little early on that call. Only few months until the next election, pity he can't say "The Government said it will change this industry for the better and we have." Any trainer with spare blinkers,era plugs and boring poles might like to consider sending those items as a belated Xmas present to Winston Hopefully the one thing this Government will be changing is a voting swing away from them.
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    Interim CEO to be appointed ...

    I posted above I didn't get the name and didn't ask for it as it would have meant nothing to me. Oh well I will bow to your superior inside information say I am wrong and look forward to seeing the new CEO who isn't Australian and also doesn't work for an Australian Corporate wagering Company.
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    Interim CEO to be appointed ...

    Well 'hello' obviously it's all innuendo until the actual person is named publicly. Innuendo is termed as meaning a hint eg based in Australia and currently working for a Corporate wagering Company. That innuendo is based on partial information i had to substantiate my hint. Innuendo is not based on actual fact and how one perceives to determine it's worth as to considering or not is up to the individual. George W Bush made an innuendo based on his information which was ultimately proven to have no substance so not all are finally proven correct but I will be surprised if my info was wrong. With regard to the date I did say he would be appointed a week ago. Boards sometimes inform a new CEO he has been appointed and then advise shareholders or staff at a later date so technically re he was appointed a week ago may well be the actual case.
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    Interim CEO to be appointed ...

    About 15 years ago one of the best ever racing administrators in Australasia was 'appointed' by the Board of the NZ TAB as it's CEO. If he hadn't been locked in a room by an Australian State Racing Board until he accepted the role as their CEO I have no doubt the Industry here would be in a far stronger financial position today had he crossed the ditch as he well intended to do until made to change his mind. I heard the same line back then from people in the Industry here who thought they had the correct info that no one had been appointed when told they were wrong. The same Australian source back then was 100% on the mark so I'm not concerned about checking the validity of it. Re-boot your satellite dish your source of info and mine are obviously way out of kilter.
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    Interim CEO to be appointed ...

    The info was that it is an Australian who works for a Corporate Betting Company. The actual naming will be done by RITA when they get around to doing it. I didn't get given the name and I didn't ask if the person knew as it would mean nothing to me. He said it should be announced in 24 hours but remember he is an Australian and that's one thing they do better in Aussie eg release info early on situations like this so understandable I guess the timing was out.
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    Interim CEO to be appointed ...

    Well at least it's only the date that I got it wrong regarding the latest CEO unlike the NZRB over the last ten or so years who got it wrong regarding the people appointed to take up the actual role. Maybe I didn't get the appointment time frame actually wrong maybe it's just the fact that as usual the NZ racing Industry doesn't exactly get kept up to date with what is exactly going on. If anyone disagrees with that they obviously (unlike myself) feel that the NZRB and now RITA are totally transparent when dealing with the NZ Racing Industry .