gary1 361 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 On 6/21/2017 at 3:26 PM, jasonmccook1 said: can it be locked for comments until " it does come out then" ??? well jason are all you doubters going to say sorry to level plus the ruling is a joke Level playing field 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,979 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 Jason was completely right it was rumor when it was originally posted and everyone is innocent until proven guilty... so now he is guilty and will get punished as he should. jasonmccook1 and Gary Sharp 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, scooby3051 said: Jason was completely right it was rumor when it was originally posted and everyone is innocent until proven guilty... so now he is guilty and will get punished as he should. scooby the trouble with this is when a horse returns a positive everyone knows as its reported straight away the greyhounds dont do that and as for jason and all the doubters they knew those dogs returned a positive it was common knowledge thru out the greyhound fraternity the point is the results were positive you dont have to be proven guilty the dog is going to be disqualified anyway they all use the meat excuse Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alltheway!!! 640 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 Yes he had a positive. Obviously nothing malicious though. Doesnt take much meat to get a contamination Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, alltheway!!! said: Yes he had a positive. Obviously nothing malicious though. Doesnt take much meat to get a contamination what a load of crap dont you understand the rules jakey present your dog drug free end of story aquaman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,979 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 30 minutes ago, gary1 said: scooby the trouble with this is when a horse returns a positive everyone knows as its reported straight away the greyhounds dont do that and as for jason and all the doubters they knew those dogs returned a positive it was common knowledge thru out the greyhound fraternity the point is the results were positive you dont have to be proven guilty the dog is going to be disqualified anyway they all use the meat excuse I don't care at the time it was not public knowledge so it was unable to be proven... until it is able to be we won't allow rumor here. jasonmccook1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,979 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, gary1 said: what a load of crap dont you understand the rules jakey present your dog drug free end of story Stop going the man as you always do...cheers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, scooby3051 said: I don't care at the time it was not public knowledge so it was unable to be proven... until it is able to be we won't allow rumor here. im not disagreeing but wouldnt you want to see things on a level playing field eg thoroughbreds and trotters make a positive known straight away Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,979 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, gary1 said: im not disagreeing but wouldnt you want to see things on a level playing field eg thoroughbreds and trotters make a positive known straight away Thats not whats being discussed in this thread...but yes of course it should be made public as soon as possible. gary1 and jasonmccook1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, scooby3051 said: Stop going the man as you always do...cheers. not going the man scooby they are entitled to defend their best mates but to me thats bias Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, scooby3051 said: Thats not whats being discussed in this thread...but yes of course it should be made public as soon as possible. agree but why should the greyhounds get a pass when theres a positive at the gallops you know about it straight away but at the dogs they dont publicise till its dealt with in aust at the dogs you know straight away why does nzgra feel they need to hide it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,979 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, gary1 said: agree but why should the greyhounds get a pass when theres a positive at the gallops you know about it straight away but at the dogs they dont publicise till its dealt with in aust at the dogs you know straight away why does nzgra feel they need to hide it Maybe you should ask them... not fight about it in here... gary1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, scooby3051 said: Maybe you should ask them... not fight about it in here... not fighting about it scooby just pointing out stupidity of it level was ridiculed about his comments about his statement when everyone on here that replied saying he was wrong already you knew about it i was even told about it by my local publican Level playing field 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmccook1 2,359 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 1 hour ago, gary1 said: well jason are all you doubters going to say sorry to level plus the ruling is a joke Nothing to say sorry about I stand behind my comment as was not common knowledge and no I didn't know before, hand on heart only knew about it when i read it on JCA website alltheway!!! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lad27 404 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 http://www.jca.org.nz/non-race-day-hearings/non-raceday-inquiry-riu-v-j-t-mcinerney-reserved-decision-on-penalty-dated-13-july-2017-chair-mr-r-g-mckenzie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 30 minutes ago, jasonmccook1 said: Nothing to say sorry about I stand behind my comment as was not common knowledge and no I didn't know before, hand on heart only knew about it when i read it on JCA website so your brother never told you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonmccook1 2,359 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 43 minutes ago, gary1 said: so your brother never told you Nope and if I really wanted to know I could of gone straight to the source any way as have connections to the kennel but I just waited to wait for the official word Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jape 344 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 1 hour ago, gary1 said: im not disagreeing but wouldnt you want to see things on a level playing field eg thoroughbreds and trotters make a positive known straight away That is not correct. jasonmccook1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 10 hours ago, Jape said: That is not correct. please explain aquaman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level playing field 10 Report post Posted July 20, 2017 Good to to see its all out there,shame its a poor out come for punters who missed out on the day short changed . J May 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jape 344 Report post Posted July 21, 2017 On 7/21/2017 at 8:03 AM, gary1 said: please explain The positives at the Nelson Harness meetings were certainly not revealed straight away by the RIU. jasonmccook1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted July 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Jape said: The positives at the Nelson Harness meetings were certainly not revealed straight away by the RIU. a one off but they are published before the hearings and it only took 4 weeks before it was made not like the dogs that hide the fact there has been a positive and take 10 weeks to hear it wheres the trans parency and guess what jape how long are we going to keep believing in the old meat excuse come on ref 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted July 21, 2017 here you go jape no fines here perhaps the jca should take note STEWARDS WRAP: KNACKERY MEAT LEADS TO MORE POSITIVE SWABS Monday 6th June 2016 1:49 pm.Katherine Ernst TWO Victorian trainers recently faced the Racing Appeals and Disciplinary Board (RADB) after being charged with breaches of the prohibited substance rule GAR 83 (2)(3). Both trainers had greyhounds which returned positive urine samples to the drug Dehydronorketamine, a pain relief drug which is a metabolite of Ketamine. The first trainer to face the board was Chris Darmanin, whose greyhound Aeroplane Tommy had shown the presence of the substance when competing at Ballarat on December 7, 2015. Darmanin pleaded guilty to the charge and gave evidence that the source of the substance was most likely from the meat fed to the greyhound, which had been obtained from a pet food supplier. Darmanin said he would be feeding his greyhounds human grade meat from now on. Upon considering a penalty, the board was mindful of the evidence tendered at the hearing and that Darmanin had two prior positive swabs to the substance Procaine in 2009 and 2014 respectively. The RADB subsequently handed down a six month disqualification, to commence on June 7, 2016. The second trainer was Andrea Chapple, whose greyhound, Zoltina’s Legacy, returned a urine sample which showed the presence of Dehydronorketamine when competing at Ballarat on December 4, 2015. Chapple also pleaded guilty and gave evidence that the substance was likely the result of being fed knackery meat from a pet food supplier. Stewards considered Chapple’s guilty plea, her co-operation with the stewards and her lack of prior transgressions under the GAR and good character. She was subsequently disqualified for three months, two months of which was suspended for 12 months, provided there are no further breaches of the rules in that period, with the disqualification commencing on June 7, 2016. Aeroplane Tommy and Zoltina’s Legacy were also disqualified from their respective races. aquaman, Jabba2, mcmissile and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
what a post 811 Report post Posted July 22, 2017 4 hours ago, gary1 said: a one off but they are published before the hearings and it only took 4 weeks before it was made not like the dogs that hide the fact there has been a positive and ake 10 weeks to hear it wheres the trans parency and guess what jape how long are we going to keep believing in the old meat excuse I thought the RIU had a deliberate policy of not releasing details of positives. Give them a ring and they will probably neither confirm nor deny their neither confirm nor deny policy. dogrug and gary1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary1 361 Report post Posted July 22, 2017 4 hours ago, what a post said: I thought the RIU had a deliberate policy of not releasing details of positives. Give them a ring and they will probably neither confirm nor deny their neither confirm nor deny policy. only applies to the dogs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...