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    Inca

    For example.That someone can have over 1000 drives in a season ,drive 99.9% of them expertly. I will tell you another story which I think reflects another aspect of these proceedings.. Very recently I was talking to a bloke moaning about his mate being caught D.I.C. that night. He told me a story about his mate breaking up with his partner who just happened to have a local cop for a son. He was adamant that the son of this fellows ex partner had deliberately targeted his mate, knowing that he drove home from the pub drunk. It was all the cops fault. He told me everyone at the pub was upset about it.. Strange but true.
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    Inca

    How comments like the above help your argument is beyond me.
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    Inca

    So Does that apply to my earlier comments about harness racing in the south island being the most honest it ever has been? Does it apply to when I have commented on another forum that two of those involved are the top 2 drivers that punters have the most faith in, as far as getting results and always giving thier horses everyone opportunity to win. The problem with operatio inca is there is no context,it doesn't look at the big picture. It is unforgiving in that it can isolate actions, inaccurately reflecting the overall honesty of those involved. But that in no way excuses actions which undermine the confidence of very people you need for the industry to survive(the punter) . That's why I support what operation inca stands for.
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    Inca

    Yes I expressed my belief the nelson race involved a driver of a hot favourite who did not try,and believe there was motive for such actions. Operation Inca has laid charges relating to that race which appear to implicate other drivers in that race of being aware of the non trying drivers actions. I'm not afraid to say it. All people like yourself want to hear is views which match your own. Correct me if i'm wrong,but are there not court cases still pending. I have pointed out in several posts that charges will change,some will proceed,some will not, Some will plead to lesser charges after discussions with the prosecution. Exactly what has happened so far. As to Nigel Mcgrath, i've never commented on him or inferred anything about him. Yet you want me to apologise for something which I haven't said??
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    Inca

    Your right in that it appears Mcgrath has suffered an injustice. Your jumping the gun if you think this will have a domino effect for all concerned... McGrath may have been dragged into this by association, which of course is not reasonable without sufficient evidence.. As to McGrath ,I don't know anyone who thinks he was a major influence in any of this,,however I can't see anything changing people's opinions about the remaining cases at this stage. There's still a long way to go.
  6. what a post

    Inca

    I've spoken to your doctor and I asked him if you suffered from insanity. He told me No,you seem to enjoy it.
  7. I'm saying it is legitimate if used as the rules allow. My own personal take is if used for the purposes promoted by those involved then I can't see what's wrong . The debate seems to relate to whether it is being used for performance enhancement. I just haven't read enough information on that side of things to be convinced of that. I haven't researched it as much as you or others have. What I do believe is, it is not the pre race performance enhancer which gives the stables behind the product the edge. It makes no sense to intentionally make available a product to everyone which reduces your advantage over them.. I can see why authorities have suggested a 7 day rule,, as its promoted use is not for a pre race performance enhancement, so if its being used as intended then why should that upset anyone.
  8. Lots of things in the past that were seen as legitimate that no longer are. Just as there are threshold levels for some things that never were. Cobalt,levamisole, etc. Nothing new in that.
  9. what a post

    Inca

    Or those within the industry could reflect on how this all came about. Reflect on how past similar behavior in previous decades has led those currently involved to believe there are no consequences. Reflect on what is right and wrong, what examples they want to set for the current crop of young people trying to make a living within the industry. Instead of directing your frustration towards authorities who enforce the rules, use that frustration to put in place an ongoing, plan ,once this is all over, to support those currently charged which would address the financial and mental health issues that all would suffer from to varying degrees. There has to be support networks established for each and everyone of those charged,. You have to have a plan b if some charges are proven. I hope once these cases have been finalized that you use your undoubted skills and focus on how you can help those involved, which I do believe is your goal. It can't be all about revenge.
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    Inca

    Isn't that what some of us have been predicting from the start? Nothing out of the ordinary there. Still.if there is no evidence of any guilt, as you keep telling us, then those involved will no doubt continue to plead not guilty to the fresh charges.
  11. Any horse that is subject to a scratching penalty has its racing status as "stood down" until that scratching penalty expires. In all reality many of the'"5 day stand down with vets certificate supplied"' are not based on actual veterinary issues that would stand scrutiny.
  12. Isn't the difference Auckland has tried to run junior driver only races, but due to the lack of numbers they have changed to the southland system of having penalty free wins if driven by a junior,or higher rated horses being race eligible if driven by a junior. In other words Auckland have moved away from what you suggest because of a lack of support numbers wise( for differing reasons) In the amateurs case, Auckland chooses not to run amateur races, despite being better supported numbers wise than most races currently run by auckland,, So you have the ATC with a deliberate policy of excluding a resource which they complain they don't have enough of. The retention of juniors and other younger stable workers is a problem,but that is just another facet of the industry which doesn't seem to have a successful working strategy.
  13. It wasn't a surprise to see 3 of the 7 runners gallop in Fridays monte,as they nearly always gallop in every race they have,,so surely racing in unfamiliar circumstances it was almost inevitable. The very slow first half of the mile also contributed as it lead to a bunched field... Also they were all woman riders.,some who couldn't seem to restrain their horses when they galloped.,that also I didn't think was much of a surprise. As far as a spectacle goes ,it was a disappointment. From a betting perspective it was just the same as any race. You just analyze the form and data you have and make your investments accordingly. Punting to me is about getting the best return you can, irrespective of whether it is a high quality or low quality field. The monte paid out ,just like any other race.
  14. Some simply don't agree with what he says sometimes, or more precisely fails to say, because they have different opinions.. simple as that. You seem to infer mick Guerin is flash,posh and has $. I am unaware of that,and well done to him if he does have a few $, Everyone has different types and levels of involvement in the sport ,and you are always going to get differing opinions because of that,.People like to see an all inclusive public voice for their thinking,and I think some don't think mick Guerin does that on some issues. Hence the criticism he may get.
  15. Theres no doubting Mick Guerin is a knowledgeable man, Nowdays i think he makes the more run of the mill harness meetings enjoyable to watch when he is the studio presenter. He seems to have a better choice of words now. In the past he had alienated some viewers and horses connections with unnecessary derogatory comments on the possible quality of the horses running, effectively undermining the achievements of the successful connections who have friends, work colleagues and family watching. That was in the past,now he mostly has a far more respectful choice of words. I think he still lacks balance when it comes to discussing possible negatives when it comes to certain stories and stables.He could do that in a respectful way but simply chooses not to go there. For example his misleading information about the atc . That's my opinion of mick Guerin.