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    box seat ,debate on blood spinning

    The point is the all stars horses are so dominant, especially when race or nz records are run, that people, myself included,form the opinion there is more to the big gap between them and others,than just their undoubted training and driving ability,and the undoubted ability of their horses. Many believe,(i actually think most) that they have some type of performance enhancer which plays its part in the dominance. To dismiss those with that opinion as jealous,haters,etc,etc is simply an easy way of ignoring why they think like that. Why can't someone have that opinion? Why do they have to be given nasty labels to undermine their thinking. As far as this blood spinning goes, ,if it was a key part of the formula to the all star success, I can't work out why those who offer the service would be so open about the product and service they offer to everyone. I get the debate about the blood spinning and the benefits of it,i just cant work out why it is tied into being part of the formula of the all stars success which only the all stars have..Anyone can access it if they have the money to pay for it.
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    Rating 40 to 55

    winner paid $9.40 and the trifecta $154. You should have full pockets.
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    box seat ,debate on blood spinning

    I don't see anything wrong with Jack expressing his opinion. He seems to think it can be used as a performance enhancer,and obviously many do otherwise why would one vet have referred to trainers using the treatment pre race,and the other vet saying it can improve lung performance. Of course that was just one part of the stated uses and needed to be taken in context.. Anyway,the reason the box seat did the segment was so people could better understand its benefits. Its not as if the debate was going to end overnight after the show. I agree lee27074 has probably answered as much as he can,and he has said to visit the lab as he has nothing to hide.The problem with that statement is I don't think anyone thinks he is hiding anything,they just have different takes on his product. I haven't seen any hateful comments on this thread,so I don't think it fair to describe jacks or anyone else's comments as such. That's my take on views previously expressed.
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    To be or not to be ... Unruly

    thanks for that. Jerry Garcia has always been a favorite of mine because of how courageous he can be at the finish of a race.
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    box seat ,debate on blood spinning

    Really your reply is rather disappointing. Personally I think using the "hatred of anyone successful" comment is just a tactic to deflect from giving a reasonable answer. Personally I didn't see anything wrong with how the box seat presented the segment. I think its about time they gave coverage to issues discussed by those who follow the sport. I don't have a problem with the segment being presented in a favorable light for those who provide the service. The fact that it has prompted debate from differing view points is also a positive for those interested in both sides. I think you should stick to promoting the positives in the service you provide instead of name calling.
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    Rating 40 to 55

    Nothing wrong with that as the connections of the only non win horse who accepted chose to start in that race. I assume in preference to,or as well as the up coming non win trot at forbury later in the week.. I agree with your earlier point about rating 40 horses deserving a handicap over rating 55 horses.
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    To be or not to be ... Unruly

    There are also quite a few trotters that seem to go away far better from the outside of the unruly,instead of say the inside or middle of the unruly line. Its got to be a psychological thing for horses that do that. Majestic hurricane is one of those that seems very claustrophobic. Maybe its the same for st Michel. I've pointed out previously the confusing thing is in the north island your starter has been sending any horse playing up pre start to the outside of the unruly horses. In the south island the Canterbury starter has been sending them to the inside of the unruly horses. Surely there should be some consistency amongst starters.One of them is wrong, not sure which one.
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    To be or not to be ... Unruly

    There is no doubt starting off the unruly is similar to adding a 10m handicap. Its only not that big a disadvantage if a small front line, I guess it all comes down to whether it helps the horse get away better. Some trotters don't seem to go away if they have someone behind them at the start.,maybe that's the reason jerry Garcia is still on unruly. I do agree it is a major handicap to its winning chances, You've only got to watch its racing pattern to see that. In my opinion another thing about horses staring off unruly like jerry Garcia is the runs take more out of them.
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    box seat ,debate on blood spinning

    Maybe he means ben Johnson. There was I bit of controversy when it was later revealed Carl Lewis had escaped sanctions after 3 times testing positive to small amounts of banned stimulants found in cold medications prior to the Seoul Olympics.Maybe that's what he is referring to. If the blood spinning is that good for joint repair why do so many of the young all star horses need injections in their joints. Mick g seems to talk about a new one each week. I think the programme was good. Maybe they may do a follow up on the counter argument,probably not..
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    box seat ,debate on blood spinning

    I thought it was an interesting segment. To me it was a case of treatment which anyone could access given its legal and available, but in reality would be used by those who were not worried about having to pay for the said or similar treatment, and had the bigger cheque books What you say about the treatment being given via a nebulizer was spoken about by Mr Bishop. He specifically referred to the treatments ability to enhance lung performance if there was some inflammation in a horses lungs. He said it acted like a low grade anti inflammatory, similar to what you might use for asthma. The segment however seemed to focus the message about it being beneficial for joints and injuries.
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    Simon Lawson

    Obviously you are happy to put your views on record. Can you enlighten me as to which decisions coming from the integrity unit have you disheartened and how the riu policing the rules,as is their job,is continuing to hurt all aspects of harness racing as described in the harnesslink article you agree with.. Some specifics would be helpful so as to understand your thinking. In my opinion ,high profile participants believe everything should be made to suit them, including discretion as to when and when not to apply the rules to them if they transgress. Do you have a comment on that view.
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    Simon Lawson

    Yes,but it's harnesslink , so what do you expect. Someone commits a serious breach of the rules, and harnesslink think those whose job it is to investigate and enforce the rules are the ones at fault..And according to them many owners,trainers and drivers agree with them. First impression reading stories like that ,and taking them on face value ,makes you wonder why anyone honest would want to be involved in harness racing. Fortunately I know harnesslinks views are not a true reflection of most within the industry.
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    J dunn

    So your saying the crown prosecutor, after reviewing all the evidence, and whose job it is to decide whether evidence is strong enough to prove defendants have committed a crime before proceeding with charges , has no idea how to do their job. And then throw in the mix the ex employee with a grudge, the couple of useless failed coppers and on top of that you can throw in the team of police who were given resources for 18 months to continue this baseless evidence witch hunt, and walah there you have it, a complete injustice perpetrated against the defendants. . You've answered why they employ them -because of their talent. Do you really think any of those involved would ever even think about doing anything underhand given the scrutiny they are under,besides there are only small number of charges before the court so we can't make accurate assumptions about how wide scale it might have been. Also we are yet to hear what parts those charged played. Fact is one charge is one too many and is enough to undermine punters confidence..Reality is too many industry participants have little regard for the punters who help fund the industry. The 2 drivers mentioned on this thread, prior to these charges being announced, were perceived to be at the forefront of giving punters confidence in the sport. Which is why to have them involved is disappointing.
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    J dunn

    I agree with a lot of what you say however you refer to a largely fruitless enquiry. That comment just doesn't correlate with the fact there are very serious charges before the court. And lets be honest. What message does the induction into the hall of fame send,at a time when everyone knows of the impending charges. To me that is another illustration of certain sectors just thumbing their noses,and is the exact thinking which exists within many in the industry towards the betting public,and is one of the reasons why turnover has dropped. Another case of shooting themselves in the foot. John dunn was probably always going to end up in the hall of fame, but the timing does him no favors and reflects poorly on those who made that decision in my opinion. Still nothing surprises me.
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    J dunn

    What a ridiculous statement. Evil? Where has anyone said that. Your just putting your emotive words in others comments to detract from what they say.