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15 hours ago, Nerula said:
Looks so strong, Got the big bum and a chest already. Might be an earlier Hello than whats gone before. I think that what we have seen the Hello's are going to be serious 3yo's.
HY has provided some strength in front that not normally provided compared to most from the family. Per Incanto mum so speed but not early - this colt has some real class about him. I’ll be racing a good slice.
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Looks good - wth thanks
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On 5/20/2025 at 2:11 PM, Pheroz said:
Galileo spent 5 seasons in Australia and sired only 3 Group 1 winners bred in Australasia, which was well below his performance in the Northern Hemisphere, was there a reason for that? Was it due to unsuitable mares, in type or pedigree? Arguably he was the worlds best but did'nt duplicate that performance in the Southern hemisphere.
Any thoughts as to why?
Hard tracks and training methods might be a good start….
- Breeder and Pam Robson
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12 hours ago, Breeder said:
I read the article the other night but wasn't really convinced by it. There is a reason we have the expressions "tap root mare" and "blue hen mares". It is simply that the data shows that descendants from these mares, on the bottom line of their pedigrees produce more good horses than those from "ordinary " lines. To me that is a simple illustration of the value of strong female lines. Obviously not all descendants will be very good horses, just like not all descendants of top stallions are not good horses.
With regard the Bruce Lowe numbered families , we have to remember when he did this research --over 100 years ago, well before computers , sophisticated data bases and software. So by today's standards it will look simplistic, but that should not under value his work. He was one of a few who started serious pedigree research and that should be valued.
When Jack started writing his short columns for the Friday Flash he was effectively starting the push in interest in pedigrees in NZ (he started my interest) and at the time , in hindsight, the "belief" in the Bruce Lowe number idea was starting to wane.
I am not persuaded by the article and will continue in my belief that strong female families are extremely important.
Now people… I post every now and again, but this is important. I agree with this post, and that LOWE did his ground breaking work a long time ago… and now we have DNA..
So it’s important to reconcile the old LOWE numbers (and their known errors) with the next generation of knowledge (DNA understanding) if you are (say) trying to line breed or whatever … so here is something to consider / take into account in your thinking (sorry I don’t have a reference)
in a nut shell… some LOWE lines are mitochondria related…I think going forward a better way to think…should over take the LOWE numbers.
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On 12/27/2024 at 4:26 PM, Nerula said:
Breeding buffs may be interested in this one
Sire
Hello Youmzain (FR)
2016
Kodiac
Danehill
Danzig
Rafha
Kris
Spasha
Shamardal
Giant's Causeway
Spa
Sadler's Wells
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Cream of the Crop (AUS)
2012
New Approach
Galileo
Sadler's Wells
Park Express
Ahonoora
Bal du Siecle
Danehill Dancer
Danehill
Buenos Aires
Rainbow Quest
HELLO YOUMZAIN (FR) (Bay 2016-Stud in France 2021, NZ 2021). 5 wins-2 at 2-at 6f, £432,851, €160,878, Royal Ascot Diamond Jubilee S., Gr.1, Haydock Sprint Cup, Gr.1, Sandy Lane S., Gr.2, Criterium de Maisons- Laffitte, Gr.2, 2d Deauville Prix Maurice de Gheest, Gr.1, 3d Royal Ascot Commonwealth Cup, Gr.1. Half-brother to SW Royal Youmzain, SW Zuhoor Baynoona and SP Saglawy. His oldest SH-bred progeny are yearlings.
1st dam
CREAM OF THE CROP, by New Approach. Winner at 1550m, SAJC Quayclean P., 2d SAJC Kevin Woods Retirement H., 3d SAJC RSL Australia H., Adelaide Cup Raceday H. Half-sister to Balmaurice. This is her fourth foal. Her third foal is a 2YO. Her second foal is an unraced 3YO. Dam of one foal to race - Mustang Valley
Danehill Dancer and Kodiac close genetically…
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Another nice debut winner on Sunday - Bulgari
https://loveracing.nz/RaceInfo/53366/3/Race-Detail.aspx
HY building…
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Six-time Group One winner Auguste Rodin will shuttle to Windsor Park Stud in Cambridge this spring in a coup for the New Zealand breeding industry.
https://www.racingnews.co.nz/six-time-group-one-winner-to-stand-at-windsor-park/ -
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I knew Don well and exchanged breeding ideas over many years. A great bloke and kiwi fruit grower / breeder who loved to take on the big boys. He told me about his punting days in Australia where on one day he took so much cash from the track he needed a bag! Others will know more about that… but he was a real gent, a race cafe regular, good contributor, raced a horse with me…. And I miss the man.
so pleased his breed (and generosity) is coming out and he is being remembered
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8f is your friend
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7 hours ago, Blaird said:
Sword Of State with a stud fee of $15000 finished book 1 with an average sale price of $201300. Thats on top of the 6 sold at the Magic Millions for an average of $240833. Let's hope they do the job on the track for the buyers who have put their faith in him.
Yes very strong result by SOS. Left strong types. Early days but he may become the go to sire to kick off a mare.
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Noverre and Sword of State had the right types and families at the MM Sale, which from a marketing perspective help position them for the sale….
ive not supported either breeding wise.SOS while smaller was the better racehorse in my opinion, Noverre is a nice type - was well educated but beat little in the 2000 Guineas of his year - again in my opinion. But you have to like his physique / look.
Both will have good opportunity…
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Been a bit quiet… anyone got some news OR picks for the sales.?
Wrote: The upgrader
in Thoroughbred Breeding
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Wrote the Upgrader….like Vlad the Impailer… did things the hard way from the ground up