100 1 1,386 Report post Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, stodge said: I realise I'm never going to win over those who are adamant the Internet in general and Nigerian web sites in particular give them all the truth they need. In terms of the blood clot issue which has been raised as a legitimate concern by some European countries, the Germans reported 13 cases from AstraZeneca and I think 12 from Pfizer in the UK. Now, for context, 10 million doses of each vaccine have been administered in the UK so the chances of getting an issue with blood clots or thrombosis as it is called is around 1 in a million which is considered "background". Given those odds compared with the odds of me surviving the virus at my age and in my health - well, I'll be with the vaccine all day every day. It's curious some of those most risk-averse about the vaccine are those least risk-averse about the virus (remove masks, end social distancing etc). As to "how this plays out over time", we won't get to a zero-Covid world, it will, I suspect, become the dominant virus and there will be an annual vaccination (just as there is for influenza over here) which will hopefully only be for those most at risk as treatments become more effective. We will of course learn to live with it - until the next vaccine-resistant virus comes along whether from a military facility, a Chinese market or deliberately bio-engineered by Big Pharma to effect a systematic reduction of the population via sterilisation (delete as appropriate). FYI From the UK Govt not some Nigerian website Execution date: March 4, 2021 * Blood disorders: 2,033 * Cardiac disorders: 1,032 * Congenital disorders: 3 * Hearing disorders: 713 * Endocrine disorders: 10 * Eye disorders: 1,242 (12 blinds) * Gastrointestinal disorders: 9,360 * General disorders: 26,391 * Liver disorders: 17 * Immune system disorders: 466 * Infections: 1,863 * Injuries: 393 * Continued Investigations: 965 * Metabolic disorders: 525 * Muscle-tissue disorders: 11,565 * Neoplasms: 20 * Nervous System Disorders: 16,107 * Associated with pregnancy: 29 * Psychiatric disorders: 1,235 * Renal / urinary disorder: 187 * Syst. Reproductive: 338 * Respiratory disorders: 3,575 * Skin disorder: 6,042 * Vascular disorders: 992 * Dead: 212 * Medical and Surgical Procedures: 45 * https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions What's disturbing is this is a weekly report Gruff and chevy86 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 1 1,386 Report post Posted March 16, 2021 So the sheep are lining up in droves for an unproven vaccine for a virus so deadly you have to be tested to find out if you have it! MSM mind control at it's finest. You will find the same people who are lining up for vaccines are the same ones who where running to hills from the Tsuripple Fear porn to control the masses Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 16, 2021 4 hours ago, stodge said: I realise I'm never going to win over those who are adamant the Internet in general and Nigerian web sites in particular give them all the truth they need. In terms of the blood clot issue which has been raised as a legitimate concern by some European countries, the Germans reported 13 cases from AstraZeneca and I think 12 from Pfizer in the UK. Now, for context, 10 million doses of each vaccine have been administered in the UK so the chances of getting an issue with blood clots or thrombosis as it is called is around 1 in a million which is considered "background". Given those odds compared with the odds of me surviving the virus at my age and in my health - well, I'll be with the vaccine all day every day. It's curious some of those most risk-averse about the vaccine are those least risk-averse about the virus (remove masks, end social distancing etc). As to "how this plays out over time", we won't get to a zero-Covid world, it will, I suspect, become the dominant virus and there will be an annual vaccination (just as there is for influenza over here) which will hopefully only be for those most at risk as treatments become more effective. We will of course learn to live with it - until the next vaccine-resistant virus comes along whether from a military facility, a Chinese market or deliberately bio-engineered by Big Pharma to effect a systematic reduction of the population via sterilisation (delete as appropriate). My information comes from Nobel laureates, Scientists,Virologists , epidemiologists,Doctors ,Pharmaceutical websites and Government Departments Stodge ..Nigeria? When i said ‘play out’ i was referring to those getting Vaccinated, they will be case Studies for years, if you think the Flu Vaccine Works your in the Minority im afraid even the Medical establishment quote 50/50 Stats that are very generous given the poor results in the US in the last two years at least , . We know Masks dont work and have been told this by Fauci , Bloomfield and experts in PPE and the opposite is true given the Body becomes less efficient and Toxins are removed with the help of Oxygen...Appreciate your opinion and feedback Stodge but it seems you trust mainstream media ahead of Nigerian websites . All the Best Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 16, 2021 Why does the internet get such a negative wrap, if you get information from a book is it more reputable? Its interesting my Cambodian mate has been having serious wart problems for 5 years. He tried everything,even used nitrogen to no avail.I got on the Web and 10 minutes later found a plant growing by the side of his house that he applied,two weeks later his warts have cleared by 50% over a largish area. What would we do without it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 1 1,386 Report post Posted March 16, 2021 Big Pharma are going down Vaccine scam is starting to fall apart More countries halting the vaccine programs Trust the plan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,460 Report post Posted March 16, 2021 2 hours ago, 100 1 said: Big Pharma are going down Vaccine scam is starting to fall apart More countries halting the vaccine programs Trust the plan Why don’t you just fuck off. You do what you want to do, and let us do what we chose to do, in peace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 16, 2021 How can you trust a Buisness that has never produced anything? In February 2016, a Nature editorial criticized Moderna for not publishing any peer-reviewed papers on its technology, unlike most other emerging and established biotech companies, and compared its approach to that of the controversially failed Theranos.[32] In September 2018, Thrillistpublished an article titled, "Why This Secretive Tech Start-Up Could Be The Next Theranos",[33]criticizing its reputation for secrecy and the absence of scientific validation or independent peer-review of its research, though having the highest valuation of any U.S. private biotech company at more than $5 billion.[11][12] A former Moderna scientist told Stat: "It's a case of the emperor's new clothes. They're running an investment firm, and then hopefully it also develops a drug that's successful."[11] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 16, 2021 Looks like theyve got the NZ Variant Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stodge 1,912 Report post Posted March 16, 2021 22 hours ago, 100 1 said: FYI From the UK Govt not some Nigerian website Execution date: March 4, 2021 * Blood disorders: 2,033 * Cardiac disorders: 1,032 * Congenital disorders: 3 * Hearing disorders: 713 * Endocrine disorders: 10 * Eye disorders: 1,242 (12 blinds) * Gastrointestinal disorders: 9,360 * General disorders: 26,391 * Liver disorders: 17 * Immune system disorders: 466 * Infections: 1,863 * Injuries: 393 * Continued Investigations: 965 * Metabolic disorders: 525 * Muscle-tissue disorders: 11,565 * Neoplasms: 20 * Nervous System Disorders: 16,107 * Associated with pregnancy: 29 * Psychiatric disorders: 1,235 * Renal / urinary disorder: 187 * Syst. Reproductive: 338 * Respiratory disorders: 3,575 * Skin disorder: 6,042 * Vascular disorders: 992 * Dead: 212 * Medical and Surgical Procedures: 45 * https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions What's disturbing is this is a weekly report No, it's not a weekly report - it's a report produced every week. If you'd bothered to look at it before getting over excited you'd see it covered the whole vaccination period since last December. The other thing is the UK Government states: The MHRA has received 227 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 275 reports for the Oxford University/AstraZeneca vaccine and 4 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Usage of the AstraZeneca has increased rapidly and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccine played a role in the death. A range of other isolated or series of reports of non-fatal, serious suspected ADRs have been reported. These all remain under continual review, including through analysis of expected rates in the absence of vaccine. There are currently no indications of specific patterns or rates of reporting that would suggest the vaccine has played a role. So, the UK Government, while not denying the deaths, specifically states there is no positive correlation between the vaccine and the death. That's 506 out of 20 million - don't get me wrong, very sad and tragic for the families of those involved and that reduces the odds of fatality to 1 in 40,000 (again assuming all these deaths are directly attributable to the vaccine which is an assumption you might want to make but the UK Government doesn't). soliloquy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 1 1,386 Report post Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, stodge said: No, it's not a weekly report - it's a report produced every week. If you'd bothered to look at it before getting over excited you'd see it covered the whole vaccination period since last December. The other thing is the UK Government states: The MHRA has received 227 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 275 reports for the Oxford University/AstraZeneca vaccine and 4 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Usage of the AstraZeneca has increased rapidly and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccine played a role in the death. A range of other isolated or series of reports of non-fatal, serious suspected ADRs have been reported. These all remain under continual review, including through analysis of expected rates in the absence of vaccine. There are currently no indications of specific patterns or rates of reporting that would suggest the vaccine has played a role. So, the UK Government, while not denying the deaths, specifically states there is no positive correlation between the vaccine and the death. That's 506 out of 20 million - don't get me wrong, very sad and tragic for the families of those involved and that reduces the odds of fatality to 1 in 40,000 (again assuming all these deaths are directly attributable to the vaccine which is an assumption you might want to make but the UK Government doesn't). Yep ....Keep trusting the UK govt and WHO and CDC and Big Pharma and MSM you are going to be just fine. What are you doing about the other 380 trillion viruses your immune system is fighting ATM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,683 Report post Posted March 16, 2021 9 hours ago, Idolmite said: Why don’t you just fuck off. You do what you want to do, and let us do what we chose to do, in peace. The classic response of someone who has lost the argument. Try doing a bit of research, and offer some original thought that extends beyond abuse. You would have nothing in your life if 100 1 headed for the hills and your dementia would escalate. REASONED, KNOWLEDGE-BASED debate is a critical need as we age. I would recommend you try to engage in such behaviour. JMO. It would also lift your RC "approval" rating ( which compared to 100 1 is pretty dismal) and give you great joy. Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 17, 2021 4 hours ago, stodge said: No, it's not a weekly report - it's a report produced every week. If you'd bothered to look at it before getting over excited you'd see it covered the whole vaccination period since last December. The other thing is the UK Government states: The MHRA has received 227 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 275 reports for the Oxford University/AstraZeneca vaccine and 4 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Usage of the AstraZeneca has increased rapidly and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccine played a role in the death. A range of other isolated or series of reports of non-fatal, serious suspected ADRs have been reported. These all remain under continual review, including through analysis of expected rates in the absence of vaccine. There are currently no indications of specific patterns or rates of reporting that would suggest the vaccine has played a role. So, the UK Government, while not denying the deaths, specifically states there is no positive correlation between the vaccine and the death. That's 506 out of 20 million - don't get me wrong, very sad and tragic for the families of those involved and that reduces the odds of fatality to 1 in 40,000 (again assuming all these deaths are directly attributable to the vaccine which is an assumption you might want to make but the UK Government does The Vaccines are therapeutics with lethal potential years after inoculation, why would anybody risk something proven to harm when theres proven therapeutics out there with proven track records ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idolmite 2,460 Report post Posted March 17, 2021 4 hours ago, chevy86 said: The classic response of someone who has lost the argument. Try doing a bit of research, and offer some original thought that extends beyond abuse. You would have nothing in your life if 100 1 headed for the hills and your dementia would escalate. REASONED, KNOWLEDGE-BASED debate is a critical need as we age. I would recommend you try to engage in such behaviour. JMO. It would also lift your RC "approval" rating ( which compared to 100 1 is pretty dismal) and give you great joy. Whatanutter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 1 1,386 Report post Posted March 17, 2021 It's what we knew from the beginning....PLANDEMIC So the corrupt WHO finally admits the PCR tests are invalid.....Tell Jacinda.....they all knew ...crimes against humanity Note they changed the sequencing to coincide with fake Biden The World Health Organization (WHO) tacitly admits one year later that ALL PCR tests conducted at a 35 cycle amplification threshold (Ct) or higher are INVALID So to be clear Reason for the Plandemic Crash the economy to remove Trump Allows for postal voting to rig election The swamp benefits from Big Pharma vaccines Mask mandates and lockdowns to enforce their communism agenda all aided by the corrupt MSM The good news is Team Trump has caught them all Ohokaman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,763 Report post Posted March 18, 2021 Bloody hilarious sometimes on here...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 1 1,386 Report post Posted March 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: Bloody hilarious sometimes on here...... Yep it's hilarious they have been pulling the wool over your eyes with the PCR test Are you disputing the facts? The WHO Confirms that the Covid-19 PCR Test is Flawed: Estimates of “Positive Cases” are Meaningless. The Lockdown Has No Scientific Basis chevy86 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 1 1,386 Report post Posted March 19, 2021 So the Cases have dropped like a rock since they changed the formula for the PCR test one hour after fake Biden was inaugarated. Nothng to see here https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/one-hour-after-biden-inaugurated-who-changes-covid-testing-criteria Rand Paul calls out deep state vaccine salesman Fauci chevy86 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 1 1,386 Report post Posted March 19, 2021 Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,763 Report post Posted March 19, 2021 20 hours ago, 100 1 said: So the Cases have dropped like a rock since they changed the formula for the PCR test one hour after fake Biden was inaugarated. Nothng to see here https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/one-hour-after-biden-inaugurated-who-changes-covid-testing-criteria Rand Paul calls out deep state vaccine salesman Fauci Nothing to do with the 115m that have now been vaccinated..... And Rand Paul is another moron.... https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/03/19/anthony-fauci-rand-paul-reaction-bts-cuomo-vpx.cnn Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 1 1,386 Report post Posted March 19, 2021 34 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: Nothing to do with the 115m that have now been vaccinated..... And Rand Paul is another moron.... https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/03/19/anthony-fauci-rand-paul-reaction-bts-cuomo-vpx.cnn Haha So tell me were those original videos of CNNs real of Chinese dropping dead on the streets of Covid and people dressed in protective white suits scooping them up and chucking them into the back of trucks? Was that real? or fake news propaganda to convince idiots like you covid was dangerous? How about the 350million -1 chance Tom Hanks was the first person in US to test positve? Is that true or was it fake news propaganda to convince idiots like you and the world covid was dangerous? Hook line and sinker Ohokaman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,763 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 4 hours ago, 100 1 said: Haha So tell me were those original videos of CNNs real of Chinese dropping dead on the streets of Covid and people dressed in protective white suits scooping them up and chucking them into the back of trucks? Was that real? or fake news propaganda to convince idiots like you covid was dangerous? How about the 350million -1 chance Tom Hanks was the first person in US to test positve? Is that true or was it fake news propaganda to convince idiots like you and the world covid was dangerous? Hook line and sinker More total bullshit from the biggest gullible moron on here. Just ignore the prick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 1 1,386 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 19 hours ago, Ohokaman said: More total bullshit from the biggest gullible moron on here. Just ignore the prick. Idiot So the tests were rigged and so was the death count as I told you a year ago People in UK waking up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,778 Report post Posted March 20, 2021 20 hours ago, Ohokaman said: More total bullshit from the biggest gullible moron on here. Just ignore the prick. This isnt Q Anon Hokes. The General Population are the gullible ones These Vaccines are not only useless as Tits on a Bull theyre also dangerous and the Facts are staring you in the face. Farce Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohokaman 5,763 Report post Posted March 21, 2021 58 minutes ago, Gruff said: This isnt Q Anon Hokes. The General Population are the gullible ones These Vaccines are not only useless as Tits on a Bull theyre also dangerous and the Facts are staring you in the face. Farce And they will get what they deserve....ask the Europeans locked down again. These constantly mutating strains will be a huge challenge and until they get them under control, if they ever do, expect more of the same. https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-vaccine-updates-03-19-21/index.html?tab=Variants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
100 1 1,386 Report post Posted March 21, 2021 40 minutes ago, Ohokaman said: And they will get what they deserve....ask the Europeans locked down again. These constantly mutating strains will be a huge challenge and until they get them under control, if they ever do, expect more of the same. https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-vaccine-updates-03-19-21/index.html?tab=Variants Ha Delusional Hook line and sinker 6xes 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...