45yearsofharness 173 Report post Posted January 26, 2021 My thoughts, we had 2 million plus people using the tracer app, that slowly dwindled down to around 300 thousand, a big drop, also a big drop in people getting tested and staying home if sick. The Govt campaign to try get these numbers back up was not working most people had gone back to the normal way before Covid. Therefore what would bring people back to reality than an outbreak. And here we have it, made people panic and get back on board with the plan. BRILLIANT. no real harm done! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted January 26, 2021 Medsafe NZ has to approve Vaccine So are they doing independent studies? Cant see it, this has been fast tracked reducing by years whats considered normal procedure... In a statement, Medsafe group manager Chris James said it was aware of reports about a number of deaths in elderly people in Norway who had received the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. It was reported that the deaths occurred in very frail patients, who may have had only weeks or months to live, and further investigation into these deaths would take place, he said. ...Why would you expose people in this category with a ‘vaccine’ ? 40 minutes ago, 45yearsofharness said: My thoughts, we had 2 million plus people using the tracer app, that slowly dwindled down to around 300 thousand, a big drop, also a big drop in people getting tested and staying home if sick. The Govt campaign to try get these numbers back up was not working most people had gone back to the normal way before Covid. Therefore what would bring people back to reality than an outbreak. And here we have it, made people panic and get back on board with the plan. BRILLIANT. no real harm done! Conspiracy theorist The one thing historically that people need to realize is that even if there is some asymptomatic transmission, in all the history of respiratory borne viruses of any type, asymptomatic transmission has never been the driver of outbreaks. The driver of outbreaks is always a symptomatic person. Even if there is a rare asymptomatic person that might transmit, an epidemic is not driven by asymptomatic carriers.... Fauci chevy86 and 45yearsofharness 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted January 26, 2021 Vaccine is 95% efficient (according to the Vaccine maker)with a Virus that doesnt effect 95 % of the Population you cant make this shit up ! How can they deal with the death and adverse reactions to these vaccines( there is 4 paid in advance by Adern ) without an existing problem to mask these issues Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted January 27, 2021 Cars lining up at Albany with the Flock on edge, So called Testing Station is suppose to open at 8 and nobody there We havnt got ‘Covid’ but that has nothing to do with Labours measures proven over and again . Amateur hour chevy86 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted January 28, 2021 The Pro active on here may have already noticed the Well known anti viral Ivermectin getting the big thumbs up for use with Covid 19 , even talked up in a senate hearing but of course not advocated by the NIH and CDC and Fauci who back the More expensive Drugs and Vaccines of Big Pharma... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted January 28, 2021 They have rushed through dangerous expensive experimental vaccines under ‘emergency response’ yet we have a tried and true Drug which gained its invemtors a Nobel prize which has been proven to cure elderly patients of severe illness requiring the dangerous ventilators yet nothing is being said in the mainstream.... follow the money and the Narrative its not difficult Can Ivermectin be used to treat COVID-19 (coronavirus)? www.drugs.com/medical-answers/ivermectin-treat-covid-19... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted January 28, 2021 Heads need to roll User Clip: Dr. Pierre Kory US Senate hearing - Ivermectin is 100%... www.c-span.org/video/?c4930160/user-clip-dr-pierre-kory... 100 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted January 29, 2021 What is the point of taking a cluster of experimental ‘Vaccines’ that are not 100% effective ,and will have to be used every year at a huge cost with little knowledge of contents and potential health risks ? At best 95 % efficacy (claimed by them)leaves us with 1/4 of a Million prone to Covid Hardly numbers you would be comfortable with moving forward ,and this knowing your exposure to vaccines could leave you dead ,suffering adverse reactions or leave you with auto immune diseases... how many of all these positive cases of Coronaviruse we hear about in isolation have ended up with Covid 19 ? And then death ? Hardly a Death Sentence is it Who makes PCR test kits and what exactly are they detecting.... Follow the money and Control, this is never going away and Vaccines wont change that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meomy 971 Report post Posted January 30, 2021 Vice President Biden's words to the then sworn in Public Health Director Vivek Murthy who like his wife Alice Chen and colleagues, Eric Feilg DING & Andrea Ding all received a Paul & Daisy Soro''s Fellowship grant as new to America people from another country. Soro's family are originally from Hungary and tied in with a long history of hard yards in the Shipping industry who have been screwed over bc of Covid Lockdowns when there's already been long standing since the 1800's Public Health Act regulations in place relating to Quarantine of sailing Crew. Paul Soro's must be turning in his grave. These same cluster of people in Academic circles are understood to have all received a payment of $90k in the last year related to Covid19... Note Biden's words about 'Bullying', tobacco industry and VACCINES Vice President Biden Swears in Indian American Vivek Murthy for Top Post of US Surgeon General https://indianamericancommunitynews.com/2016/08/31/vice-president-biden-swears-in-indian-american-vivek-murthy-for-top-post-of-us-surgeon-general/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted January 30, 2021 10 hours ago, meomy said: Vice President Biden's words to the then sworn in Public Health Director Vivek Murthy who like his wife Alice Chen and colleagues, Eric Feilg DING & Andrea Ding all received a Paul & Daisy Soro''s Fellowship grant as new to America people from another country. Soro's family are originally from Hungary and tied in with a long history of hard yards in the Shipping industry who have been screwed over bc of Covid Lockdowns when there's already been long standing since the 1800's Public Health Act regulations in place relating to Quarantine of sailing Crew. Paul Soro's must be turning in his grave. These same cluster of people in Academic circles are understood to have all received a payment of $90k in the last year related to Covid19... Note Biden's words about 'Bullying', tobacco industry and VACCINES Vice President Biden Swears in Indian American Vivek Murthy for Top Post of US Surgeon General https://indianamericancommunitynews.com/2016/08/31/vice-president-biden-swears-in-indian-american-vivek-murthy-for-top-post-of-us-surgeon-general/ ‘Family of under achievers ‘ said Biden Another Vaccine Man made Climate Puppet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted January 30, 2021 Seriously this is getting beyond a joke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted January 30, 2021 90,000 people die from Asnestos related disease every yeat... Asbestos particles are over 7 times larger than Coronavirus which is netween 0.06 and 0.1 of a micron Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted January 30, 2021 And we are told to wear masks 2 million plus apparently have Died from these particles...... asbestos 90,000 and they dont die within weeks Personal protective equipment (PPE) when working with asbestos |... www.worksafe.govt.nz/topic-and-industry/asbestos/ppe-when... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevy86 2,707 Report post Posted January 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Gruff said: Seriously this is getting beyond a joke Certainly is beyond a joke Gruff. Although in saying that I knew a medical person 50 years ago who always applied 3 or 4 condoms before proceeding with the dastardly act--I always thought it was about perceived augmentation rather than any safety issue Gruff 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted January 31, 2021 Another Potential COVID Stat, 100 year old the legendary Captain Sir Tom Moore...Pnuemonia for last few weeks and then later tests positive for Coronavirus... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meomy 971 Report post Posted February 1, 2021 Couldn't have written a better article. Add to the mix when Hong Kong was taken over by China in the late 1990's after British Governance, and Hon/ Han Lik's roles in the Imitation Tobacco e.g E-cigarette/ Vaping Industry and the sale of such unregulated products made in a China where there's little if any adherence to International Laws as they are a Law unto themselves. Now, Why did Jack Ma's Alibaba website suddenly pull a stash of E-Cigarette/ Vaping products that were listed under Electrical Products for Sale in Italy mid 2019? Bear in mind the fact that at that stage Juul Laboratories were in the midst of been investigated for dumping there products in the European market with to higher Benzoic Acid content and lack of Ingredients etc listed on there products?? Seeing Covid-19 through a cloud of Cigarettes https://cancerletter.com/articles/20200918_2/ Over the years there's been a very long trail of successive Public Health Officials and Advisors, along with Politicians who have not addressed the Elephant in the room, and are still not addressing the Elephant in the room, that of the Tobacco/ Imitation Tobacco industry, funding of our Healthcare systems and wider issues. It's time we all had open conversations about these things for the betterment of Current and Future Generations. Remember when Tobacco/ Cigarettes were permitted everywhere, including on aeroplanes? Well, the Imitation Tobacco industry has got away with the same garbage behaviour on aeroplanes, in workplaces and other places where we are all exposed to the impacts of those products with no one holding up their hand and been accountable. Those involved in the thick of the Tobacco and Healthcare related industries need to be held to account as they have evaded accountability for far too long. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted February 2, 2021 On 2/1/2021 at 9:09 AM, Gruff said: Another Potential COVID Stat, 100 year old the legendary Captain Sir Tom Moore...Pnuemonia for last few weeks and then later tests positive for Coronavirus... With community-acquired pneumonia (CAP) 10 percent who are admitted are placed in an ICU unit. Even in ICU, the death rate of people with pneumonia can reach 25 percent. [4] Survival depends on many factors. Age is an important factor and more elderly people succumb to pneumonia than any other adult group. Overall health is another important factor as those with existing health issues face a harder time fighting off pneumonia RIP Inspirational Human Being , goes down fueling the ’COVID’ Exaggeration... He was in a Hospital the safest place one could ,be where protocol we are told stop the ‘Virus’ are the Benchmark, what went wrong? What was he treated with once he contracted ‘Coronavirus’ was he able to be profolaxed ? Every ounce of information should be on the public record so we can learn and where hospitals can be made accountable where applicable, taking into consideration the difficult situation the heroic front line staff within them face while working long hours Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted February 2, 2021 Medsafe are today looking at giving the pfizer ‘Vaccine’(one of many out there ) the Green light ....as if they have a say what a joke... and on getting the ‘all clear’ they will be watching closely in the early stages of inoculation ,yeah must be safe good luck to those Guinea Pigs ...As ive said before they CANNOT roll out this experiment within a ‘Healthy’ Population they will need cases to disguise the adverse reactions so expect the PCR tests showing more false positives... a lockdown must be short odds...Peter williams the pro vaxxer is talking now on Magic Talk 702am chevy86 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted February 3, 2021 Be informed.Your Choice stoppfizer.org - STOP THE PFIZER VACCINE stoppfizer.o Hey Pfizer and Moderna! Take Your COVID-19 Vaccines and Shove... freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3913492/posts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted February 3, 2021 Makes perfect sense chevy86 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted February 5, 2021 You imagine if they started calling HIV sufferers Aids Patients Very few Sars Cov 2 or coronaviruse positives end up Covid cases so why has WHO gone there( corrupt)? Only Symptomatic cases can cause an ‘outbreak’ Covid 19 is NOT PCR positive .... the flock have their brains in Park Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted February 8, 2021 Dr. Chris Beyrer, an Infectious Disease expert and Dr. William Moss, a vaccines expert both work at Johns Hopkins University. Our Process: It sounds alarming at first, neither vaccine is aimed at preventing you from getting an infection. “These COVID vaccines are preventing clinical disease, we don't know if they prevent transmission,” Dr. Beyrer said. It’s important to know the difference between infection and disease. Dr. Moss said just because you are infected or have transmitted coronavirus doesn’t mean you get sick. “So you know, everyone who gets disease has an infection, and the infection causes the disease,” Dr. Moss said. “But not everyone who is infected has the disease.” That is where Moderna and Pfizer have aimed their vaccines: preventing people from getting sick. “What's being measured in the trials is whether or not they prevent disease, mild, moderate and severe disease,” Dr. Moss explained. This isn’t rare for vaccines. Dr. Moss said most vaccines don’t actually stop a virus from entering your body...... beyond belief....nothing will change, they will have you wearing masks forever... only 5% get the Clinical Disease so why are we even vaccinating with these experimental concoctions that have 90% efficy let alone the 60% , If it doesnt prevent transmission whats the point? 45yearsofharness 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff 2,800 Report post Posted February 9, 2021 Another Covid Death in US, Democrat Ron Wright, looked like a nice sort i wonder if they treated with ivermectin ....must of been the South African Variant Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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