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Leggy reacted to a post in a topic: NZ Bans Offshore Betting
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I see that as a positive for betting. If the Warriors women are unders, back one of the Aussie teams at overs. Always back against sentiment.
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The problem is bet365 has a reputation for being the worst for profitable punters (just going by what I read online). They don't call it bet $3.65 for nothing. Surely we don't want to encourage that model? Where they offer all sorts of great incentives ..... until you start winning, and then they punish you. (again this is just based on what ive read online from disgruntled bet365 punters, so may be inaccurate)
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Betting with overseas bookies will be illegal even with a VPN. The overseas bookies wont accept bets that have an NZ physical address. It will also mean that any bettors still using overseas bookies, by whatever means, will not have any rights in terms of winning payouts. The bookie could simply refuse to pay, because the bet was illegal.
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Racing Act changes to boost racing industry sustainability
Peter Harrop replied to MrBigStuff's topic in Thoroughbred Cafe
Also, Kiwis using a VPN while betting with an overseas corporate will have absolutely no rights. For example, the bookie can refuse to pay out a big win and there'll be no comeback because it was illegal for us to even place the bet. So I also think VPNs are not an option. -
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Maybe the problem with Legarto was less to do with the track and more to do with Desert Lightning being too good for her on the day. Desert Lightning ran the fastest 1600 metre time in New Zealand for 10 years, and the eighth fastest in the last 30 years. Surely if the track was dodgy they wouldn't be running those sort of times.
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Peter Harrop reacted to a post in a topic: BGP lose a million bucks
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Pak Star reacted to a post in a topic: BGP lose a million bucks
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Except getting Cool n Fast @ 21s to watch it drop to 5s and Faraglioni @ 14s also dropping to 5s later is not 'average' punting. It's excellent punting.
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Alf Riston reacted to a post in a topic: BGP lose a million bucks
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BGP did a great job with the punting IMO. There were a number of close calls that would have resulted in a profit on the day. If you're a serious punter, the number one objective is to secure overs by getting a price above what it should be paying. BGP, through some early bets, certainly did that. From there it's a matter of luck in the running and the race pattern. Sometimes it's just not your day, through no fault of your own. And it's made even more difficult through a small card of races. They've lost last 2 years, but from memory I think they've had great years before that. I look forward to seeing the selections of those complaining, pre-meeting not post-meeting, next year. Lol.
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Peter Harrop reacted to a post in a topic: Trentham Track
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Time for a look at the 1200m start point at Trentham
Peter Harrop replied to Berri's topic in Thoroughbred Cafe
Quite incredible that this happened for one of our premier races, or for any race at all for that matter. Did one of the jockeys not realise and mention it to the starter, or one of the attendants? -
Time for a look at the 1200m start point at Trentham
Peter Harrop replied to Berri's topic in Thoroughbred Cafe
Remarks on twitter prompted me to look at this further. I hand timed all the Telegraph's from 2017 onward from the 600m mark to the finish. 2022 Total time : 1:06.18 Last 600 hand timed : 32.36 2021 Total time : 1:07.95 Last 600 hand timed : 32.38 2020 Total time : 1:07.04 Last 600 hand timed : 33.01 2019 Total time : 1:06.95 Last 600 hand timed : 35.15 2018 Total time : 1:08.30 Last 600 hand timed : 35.40 2017 Total time : 1:07.71 Last 600 hand timed : 35.16 From these figures, we find that Levante's time of 1:06.18 totally checks out. The anomaly lies in the 2021 race, where they must have run the first 400 metres very slowly. Conclusion When comparing Levante's time from marker points along the chute to the finish against the 2021 race won by Avantage, Levante's time looks suspect. But when comparing with a wider sample of races from the 600m mark (hand timed off the screen), Levante's time of 1:06.18 looks legit. Levante ran a NZ Record, albeit officially hand timed. -
Time for a look at the 1200m start point at Trentham
Peter Harrop replied to Berri's topic in Thoroughbred Cafe
Total time posted : Telegraph 2021 : 1:07.95 Telegraph 2022 : 1:06.18 Time from barrier opening to the red marker on the inside fence (800m?). 2021 : 23.42 secs 2022 : 21.84 secs Time from red marker to finish line. 2021 : 44.53 secs 2022 : 44.34 secs I also did similar analysis with other early marking points down the chute. To the end of the chute where the inside rail ends. 2021 : 38.69 2022 : 36.70 Time from this point to finish line. 2021 : 29.26 secs 2022 : 29.48 secs Therefore, I think there are 2 possibilities arising out of Levante's time. 1) The 1200 metre chute was extremely fast. 2) The barriers were positioned slightly forward of the 1200m mark. -
Time for a look at the 1200m start point at Trentham
Peter Harrop replied to Berri's topic in Thoroughbred Cafe
Do you know if the barriers were in the right place? -
Time for a look at the 1200m start point at Trentham
Peter Harrop replied to Berri's topic in Thoroughbred Cafe
I must admit to having a certain amount of scepticism about the time posted for the Telegraph, considering other times on the day, and another horse a nose away. I have hand timed it off the screen and it seems correct, so the issue could be the distance, if there is an issue. -
How better can they promote NZ Racing internationally compared to what cant be done currrently by the NZ TAB? Specifically, what will enable them to promote NZ Racing better? Wouldn't the major part of the value for them be having a monopoly of just about all NZ gambling in their stable?
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Tell me, what would be the value to an overseas corporate in running the gambling arm of NZ Racing and Sports if its not to take a profit from it?
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Will punters bet with the same enthusiasm if they perceive much of the profits as going overseas? And as time goes on, there's a risk an overseas corporate will try and impose increasing control. After all, they'll have a monopoly on virtually all NZ gambling with only profits as their concern. How long before they decide they cant afford NZ TV presenters? Or before increasing the takeout? Or encouraging us to start our cards at 10 am? These are questions that concern me with outsourcing. There surely isnt another country in the world that has its gambling sovereignty in the hands of a single overseas corporate? Just doesn't seem right. I think it will give extra fuel to those who disapprove of gambling. I don't know. That's what I think anyway.