Shad

All sports wether rugby racing darts whatever, have all reached saturation point, and I guess everyone just grows a bit tired of it.

Certainly picked the right race to win, but for every horse that wins using those tactics, I'd hate to think how many don't.

Luck a major player in most cases I reckon.

Well bred and no reason why one shouldn't consider mating a mare to him, certainly has the credentials and a very very modest fee, how could you go wrong.

Racing certainly has been at saturation point for many years now, trying to stretch the punting dollar further, but many of us have a limit, mainly local product, for me, occasionally a bet on big meets in Australia, hard enough keeping up with the local form, let alone bothering with a bet in timbuktu or there other, so it's a no from me John, those meetings a dead loss in my opinion.

Well hopefully with the change and technology, the odds don't change when the race has closed, I like roughies, and get peeved when I take one at 60s just before race, then when races closes you see them change to 80s, sure you don't get many of those divs come in,, but it shouldn't be like that, when you've go no show of getting the longer odds, days of the balloon going up an the tote balanced are only a faint memory.

The horses have won a few battles over the years as well, and some not anything to do with mistreatment, some are just dangerous full stop, so i guess if your have one, deal with it or take your chance, and some have, with not good outcomes.

Fair call your opinion, but so easy for people that didnt witness it, an so many comment and then all of a sudden its escalated to horse bashing, I don't agree with it, but I don't enjoy reading when fired up horses take off uncontrollably with young riders that are left with life threatening injuries or worse, who's to blame then, and let's face it breaking in a horse is a critical step in their careers, happened to be oncourse few years back, when a maiden runner couldn't even get around the corner went arse over the outside fence in horrific fall, I couldn't see how the rider would survive, but thank God by a miracle he did, with minimal injuries, don't be sorry, we are all just expressing our thoughts, that's what it's all about, after all.

Read the coroner's report on a teenager a week or so ago, couldn't determine wether the vax was responsible or not, happened ten days after his shot ,healthy no underlying conditions, leave it at that.

Guess you'd have to witness it first hand the extended it, but had he been unable to control it, got thrown and life threatening injuries or death, or even a young less experienced jockey down the track, we'd passing on sympathy and sadness, then who's to blame, seems no such thing as an accident these days, someone must be held accountable, and have the book thrown at them,

Guess there another way of looking at it, we've seen some catastrophic injuries or worse from uncontrollable horses over the years, and no doubt there's some wild ones out there, that will kick like a mule and bite like a crocodile, ,sometimes it can self preservation, not to say I agree with it, but the world we live in will not allow this these days, as the same applies with children, there's no discipline full stop, certainly was no shortage of it when I was young fella, did it do me harm, no, but that's just my thoughts.

Police couldn't pin anything on him.

Opposition just to classy again, I think our lot are abit over rated,

I read where its returning to freeview, great news

Would be great to see, obviously very patient owners and want to play the Long. game so to speak, a lot of water under the bridge before the cup, hopefully he stays sound in mean time, but imagine that if he was to win, bred owned and trained in nz, been along time between drinks.