THIS IS SERIOUS PEOPLE MAKE NO MISTAKE

[Gruff 2,805]

So Hipkins and his Boys ‘went to market’ in Oct last year to find a ‘suitable’ safe  vaccine for Kiwis and came back with 3 Beans ..Astra Zeneca,Novavax and Jansen ...we know for one the Novavax human guinea pig trials of 40,000 was conducted mainly in the Mexican population in April this year ... Nobody died even in placebo group  in the midst of a Pandemic 

Adern stated in April she ( following the Science) was going to use those three chosen from the market last year to chase Cominarty( Biontech vaccine using Pfizer marketing) , now even people with average IQs must first think ‘aren’t these vaccines incompatible?  ...It seems to be what the CDC are saying  Novavax is NOT an mRNA vaccine

[Gruff 2,805]

Lets line up for an experimental vaccine so we can get ‘immunity’

Question remains does this vaccine have a negative effect on you’re innate immune system, particularly the Complement cascade( I read that somewhere ) a waning vaccine given to somebody who has already been exposed is trial data of considerable value

 

[Idolmite 2,562]

19 hours ago, Gruff said:

Disobeying  are you for real.You choose to ‘read ‘ what you will, it goes straight over you’re head anyway.  I never go on and on so they do not need ‘respite’ and I certainly don’t go on and on after the fact because what’s the point ? Inventing side effects? And why would I do that for fucksake when you see someone getting out of their chair walking around the room multiple times a night ,rubbing their legs and removing their shoes after NEVER displaying that behaviour previously it’s worth noting ...... you tell me what danger unvaccinated pose to vaccinated that requires them to carry vaccine passports?  Insane

You have said previously in a past that you keep sending your 'information' to friends, even after they have made up their mind. 

[Gruff 2,805]

3 hours ago, Idolmite said:

You have said previously in a past that you keep sending your 'information' to friends, even after they have made up their mind. 

And I have today when I was contacted regarding a reaction 10 days after a second jab. Glad to help

[Gruff 2,805]

I contacted NZ Blood yesterday. They say ‘should’ 

 

[Gruff 2,805]

Coronavirus cases spike in highly vaccinated Israel but drop in unvaccinated Palestine

Posted on August 21, 2021

Dr Eddy Betterman

The Middle Eastern states of Israel and Palestine show contrasting figures in both vaccination rates and case counts amid the ongoing pandemic. Israel recently saw a massive spike in Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) cases despite three-fifths of its population being vaccinated. Meanwhile, Palestine saw its COVID-19 cases drop even though more than 90 percent of its population remains unvaccinated.

Naturopathic doctor Suneil Jain pointed out the stark contrast in a tweet. His post said: “Palestine: 8.2 percent of the population is fully vaccinated. Israel: 62 percent of the population is fully vaccinated. Guess which one is doing better?”

Jain pointed to figures from the website OurWorldInData.org to support his tweet. He compared the vaccination rates and the number of COVID-19 cases in both countries and found that the former was directly proportional to the latter. While Israel suffers from high case counts despite the majority of its citizens being vaccinated, Palestine, with many remaining unvaccinated, has seen a steady drop.

As of Aug. 10, more than half of Israel’s population have been fully vaccinated, while only 8.2 percent of Palestinians have received two doses of coronavirus vaccines. Palestine has only administered around 1 million COVID-19 vaccine doses, a small number compared to the more than 10 million doses administered by Israel.

Furthermore, figures from OurWorldInData.org show that the daily number of new COVID-19 cases in Israel has surpassed the 3,500 mark. Meanwhile, daily new COVID-19 cases in Palestine never went beyond 500. These figures suggest that COVID-19 vaccines are not only ineffective, but they could also be responsible for the new wave of COVID-19 infections.

According to the COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker, Israel procured and approved both the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna mRNA vaccines for use. On the other hand, Palestine relied on donated vaccines for its vaccination program. The country received a total of 37,440 doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine and 24,000 doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine through the World Health Organization‘s COVAX initiative. Palestine also received doses of the Russian-made vaccine, Sputnik V, according to a BBC report.

Israel relied too much on the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine

Israel used the two-dose Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine on a huge percentage of its population, alongside the two-dose Moderna vaccine. More than 5.4 million Israelis received the Pfizer/BioNTech shot in the country’s widely praised mass inoculation program. However, examinations done by Israeli medical experts reveal that Pfizer’s vaccine may have caused more harm than good.

Back in April 2021, researchers from Tel Aviv University and Israeli healthcare provider Clalit Health Services reported that the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine increased the risk of people catching COVID-19 variants. They found that Israelis who completed the vaccine’s two-dose schedule were eight times more likely to get infected with the South African B1351 strain. Meanwhile, those who received one dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech shot were at higher risk of catching the British B117 strain.

“We found a disproportionately higher rate of the South African variant among people vaccinated with a second dose, compared to the unvaccinated group. Based on patterns in the general population, we would have expected just one case of the [B1351] variant – but we saw eight,” the study’s lead researcher, Dr. Adi Stern, said. (Related: Study finds Pfizer coronavirus vaccine puts people at HIGHER risk of covid “variants”.)

Months later, the Israeli Ministry of Health (MOH) revealed that the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was only 39 percent effective against the B16172 delta variant. The ministry noted this finding in its July 22 report, which included COVID-19 cases recorded between June 20 and July 17. This corresponded with the time of the more infectious variant’s spread in Israel. (Related: Israel faces new coronavirus outbreak even though its citizens already got vaccines.)

The MOH’s report also noted the waning effectiveness of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine against COVID-19 transmission. People vaccinated in March and April 2021 had more than 50 percent protection against the COVID-19 virus, while those inoculated in February 2021 only had 44 percent. Israelis inoculated at the start of the year saw their vaccine-induced protection levels drop to a measly 16 percent.

 

 

[Gruff 2,805]

We are told to listen to the Experts and the Science.

Virologist: ‘We Are Going to Pay Huge Price’ for COVID Mass...

stuartbramhall.wordpress.com/2021/03/15/virologist-we-are

[Gruff 2,805]

This is why this Potion shouldn’t be mandated. Every vaccine combined in the US in the last ten years hasnt seen anywhere near this carnage . There is ZERO  data long term. At least 95% of people are not effected and develope long term robust immunity.., 

Nearly 15,000 Covid Vaccine Deaths in USA - and Rising

www.knightstemplarorder.com/nearly_15_000_covid_vaccine...

[Idolmite 2,562]

8 hours ago, Gruff said:

This is why this Potion shouldn’t be mandated. Every vaccine combined in the US in the last ten years hasnt seen anywhere near this carnage . There is ZERO  data long term. At least 95% of people are not effected and develope long term robust immunity.., 

Nearly 15,000 Covid Vaccine Deaths in USA - and Rising

www.knightstemplarorder.com/nearly_15_000_covid_vaccine...

You've always been the stats man Gruff. So that' 15,000 slightly over 2% of those 668,000 that have died in the United States from the virus so far. This means you're 45 times more likely to die from the virus than from the vaccine. Carnage my arse. No doubt the right wing nut jobs will do their bit to help that 668,000 figure, already an absolute national embarrassment, climbing until it hits the 1 million mark. 

America, as a result of Trump's lack of a reaction to the "Democratic Hoax" that "will magically disappear", has 4.25% of the world's population yet almost 21% of the world's Covid deaths. Awesome effort eh. So that's about 1 in 500 Americans have died of the Virus so far. NZ = 1 in 185,185 approximately. 

1 in 500 versus 1 in 185,185. Jacinda has done 370 times better than Trump/Biden. By my maths we'd be hitting the 10,000 mark now in New Zealand. If Trump had been running the country. Like most people I've had an absolute guts full of lockdowns, but the disruption to our lives over the past 18 months has still be minimal when compared to many other places (9 months of lockdowns in Victoria), and I'm glad an extra 9,973 New Zealanders haven't perished in the meantime. 

[Gruff 2,805]

11 hours ago, Idolmite said:

You've always been the stats man Gruff. So that' 15,000 slightly over 2% of those 668,000 that have died in the United States from the virus so far. This means you're 45 times more likely to die from the virus than from the vaccine. Carnage my arse. No doubt the right wing nut jobs will do their bit to help that 668,000 figure, already an absolute national embarrassment, climbing until it hits the 1 million mark. 

America, as a result of Trump's lack of a reaction to the "Democratic Hoax" that "will magically disappear", has 4.25% of the world's population yet almost 21% of the world's Covid deaths. Awesome effort eh. So that's about 1 in 500 Americans have died of the Virus so far. NZ = 1 in 185,185 approximately. 

1 in 500 versus 1 in 185,185. Jacinda has done 370 times better than Trump/Biden. By my maths we'd be hitting the 10,000 mark now in New Zealand. If Trump had been running the country. Like most people I've had an absolute guts full of lockdowns, but the disruption to our lives over the past 18 months has still be minimal when compared to many other places (9 months of lockdowns in Victoria), and I'm glad an extra 9,973 New Zealanders haven't perished in the meantime. 

Trump was responsible for the ‘Vaccines’ through Operation Warp Speed and was told by Fauci the Virus was nothing to worry about, the Seasonal Flu is more of a concern ’ Appreciate a response Mighty but unfortunately there is significant information not allowed for ,the most obvious being who exactly are being included in this US Death count ?

The other is the huge number of auto immune diseases the Vaccine is creating on top of the fact Vaers numbers have historically been seriously under reported.People don’t normally even consider a vaccine could be responsible for death or injury because of how safe and effective experts claim they are 

We have had ‘Delta’ released into our communities from isolation previously with ZERO consequence , and now we have 1,000 so called cases of the most deadly contagious disease we have ever seen in our most populous City in our supposedly most prone group of Pacific Islanders and Maori and seen one 91 year co morbid deceased.. more people have died here from ‘a safe and efficacious vaccine’ than the disease 40 to 27 and they claim these can’t be proven  They need everyone Vaxxed up to try and cover the fact unvaxxed people will have more robust immunity .. to force vaccines on people already claimed to be Covid positive and recovered is utter insanity and given this would easily be 95% of the population on known figures 
Adern has done nothing, these ‘security ‘ measures have been terribly managed and these lockdowns are creating far more mental issues as well as economic. Masks DO NOT WORK so how is this ‘virus’ not replicating . They are turning a blind eye to PROVEN therapeutics and in the face of numerous Studies by leaders in their fields . Nothing to see here but Fraud

[Gruff 2,805]

So the ‘latest’ Carm report (up to sept 4 ) in NZ has the Vaccine deaths at 51 which will be conservative as many will not associate the Vaccine with injury. It does not include a 13 yr old Auckland girl because it’s not proven to be related.The numbers of Deaths and serious adverse events in the US supersede all Vaccine injuries from every vaccine administered there in a decade... Criminal, and for what? As we know unapproved but proven safe and effective therapeutics are not allowed to be used ,but there are other expensive therapeutics available so why is the mortality still high ?.Why are we vaccinating young healthy people ?????????????? They go on about ‘benefit outweighing the risk’ but this CANNOT apply in this demographic , Covid deaths are rarer than Hens teeth .Considering Vaccinated carry and spread ‘Virus’ how is this the pathway to freedom..... on the contrary . The UN want the World to be pumped with this ,not 70% 80% or even our Governments experts like Mike ‘ thick as a plank’ Plank 90% these are initial targets before the ‘Coercion’ really ramps up ... from the Early sept data we havnt Double jabbed 2/5 of NZs total population ...... The Supposed fraudulently expensive Cure is worse than the ‘Disease’ ...Where are the Deaths !!! Hard to hide in NZ ,but not areas the ‘data’ they are quoting originates.. Bolsonaro is the Shining light... surprised he hasn’t been removed 

 

If you’re Child had an adverse reaction like this you would have to be Braindead to double down surely 

[meomy 971]

1 hour ago, Gruff said:

So the ‘latest’ Carm report (up to sept 4 ) in NZ has the Vaccine deaths at 51 which will be conservative as many will not associate the Vaccine with injury. It does not include a 13 yr old Auckland girl because it’s not proven to be related.The numbers of Deaths and serious adverse events in the US supersede all Vaccine injuries from every vaccine administered there in a decade... Criminal, and for what? As we know unapproved but proven safe and effective therapeutics are not allowed to be used ,but there are other expensive therapeutics available so why is the mortality still high ?.Why are we vaccinating young healthy people ?????????????? They go on about ‘benefit outweighing the risk’ but this CANNOT apply in this demographic , Covid deaths are rarer than Hens teeth .Considering Vaccinated carry and spread ‘Virus’ how is this the pathway to freedom..... on the contrary . The UN want the World to be pumped with this ,not 70% 80% or even our Governments experts like Mike ‘ thick as a plank’ Plank 90% these are initial targets before the ‘Coercion’ really ramps up ... from the Early sept data we havnt Double jabbed 2/5 of NZs total population ...... The Supposed fraudulently expensive Cure is worse than the ‘Disease’ ...Where are the Deaths !!! Hard to hide in NZ ,but not areas the ‘data’ they are quoting originates.. Bolsonaro is the Shining light... surprised he hasn’t been removed 

 

If you’re Child had an adverse reaction like this you would have to be Braindead to double down surely 

@Gruff The teenager who died from Ponsonby was 17 years old, her twin brother will miss her immensely as will others who knew her as an incredibly amazing bubbly, active in sports and the community youth.

We are aware she was also a very hard working person who worked as often as able after school and during her school holidays.

It's awful to learn of her tragic death.

 

Sadly her family will have to wait until Coroner's Reports have been undertaken and this stupid Government, despite their Scaremongering from idiots like Shaun Hendy quoted that 80,000 people in New Zealand would die , to the best of our knowledge didn't so much as take steps to increase the number of Coroners.

That in itself reflects extremely badly on ALL those in charge of Covid19 Pulpit Talks and those who instigated this unfortunate situation we all find ourselves in.

Bloomfield etc all need to be held to account in Criminal Courts of laws.

 

One can only hope and pray that this unnecessary loss of life will at some stage leave a positive message for future generations.

 

It's appalling the lack of acknowledgement by the paid 'Scientists" to not so much factor into account people may already have 'Athletes Heart" which should be a Red Flag for anyone practicing in Public Health in relation to how to address a Pandemic or use Sales Talk with KPI'S to inject people with untested drugs.

[Ohokaman 5,848]

On 9/27/2021 at 8:32 AM, Gruff said:

Trump was responsible for the ‘Vaccines’ through Operation Warp Speed and was told by Fauci the Virus was nothing to worry about, the Seasonal Flu is more of a concern ’ Appreciate a response Mighty but unfortunately there is significant information not allowed for ,the most obvious being who exactly are being included in this US Death count ?

The other is the huge number of auto immune diseases the Vaccine is creating on top of the fact Vaers numbers have historically been seriously under reported.People don’t normally even consider a vaccine could be responsible for death or injury because of how safe and effective experts claim they are 

We have had ‘Delta’ released into our communities from isolation previously with ZERO consequence , and now we have 1,000 so called cases of the most deadly contagious disease we have ever seen in our most populous City in our supposedly most prone group of Pacific Islanders and Maori and seen one 91 year co morbid deceased.. more people have died here from ‘a safe and efficacious vaccine’ than the disease 40 to 27 and they claim these can’t be proven  They need everyone Vaxxed up to try and cover the fact unvaxxed people will have more robust immunity .. to force vaccines on people already claimed to be Covid positive and recovered is utter insanity and given this would easily be 95% of the population on known figures 
Adern has done nothing, these ‘security ‘ measures have been terribly managed and these lockdowns are creating far more mental issues as well as economic. Masks DO NOT WORK so how is this ‘virus’ not replicating . They are turning a blind eye to PROVEN therapeutics and in the face of numerous Studies by leaders in their fields . Nothing to see here but Fraud

Bullshit. Fauci said no such thing, it was that moron Trump telling everyone it “ would magically disappear in a few weeks” with virtually no cases, and when the warmer weather came life would be just like normal……as for the classic drug pushing and drinking bleach would kill it advice……FFS……

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/11/trumps-lies-about-coronavirus/608647/

[Gruff 2,805]

2 hours ago, Ohokaman said:

Bullshit. Fauci said no such thing, it was that moron Trump telling everyone it “ would magically disappear in a few weeks” with virtually no cases, and when the warmer weather came life would be just like normal……as for the classic drug pushing and drinking bleach would kill it advice……FFS……

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/11/trumps-lies-about-coronavirus/608647/

He said it on National Television viewed by millions  Hard to argue Hokes  The Program Doctors aired here over a year later for ALL to see...Disgraceful

[6xes 699]

8 minutes ago, Gruff said:

He said it on National Television viewed by millions  Hard to argue Hokes  The Program Doctors aired here over a year later for ALL to see...Disgraceful

Ahem* someone's been watching too much shortland street!! LOL

[Gruff 2,805]

3 hours ago, Ohokaman said:

Bullshit. Fauci said no such thing, it was that moron Trump telling everyone it “ would magically disappear in a few weeks” with virtually no cases, and when the warmer weather came life would be just like normal……as for the classic drug pushing and drinking bleach would kill it advice……FFS……

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/11/trumps-lies-about-coronavirus/608647/

Let’s have a look at Fauci in the Phillipines with his patented Dengvaxia   Criminal.

A Vaccine For Dengue, Just Approved By The FDA, Has A Dark...

www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/05/03/719037789/...

 

Effects on COVID-19 vaccination programEdit

A study published by the University of the Philippines College of Medicine directly attributes the Dengvaxia controversy as one of the major factors for the vaccine hesitancy of Filipinos affecting the COVID-19 vaccination program

Not surprised  Exactly the same scenario ... Approved Vaccines  

People are so ignorant of the facts

[Ohokaman 5,848]

37 minutes ago, Gruff said:

Let’s have a look at Fauci in the Phillipines with his patented Dengvaxia   Criminal.

A Vaccine For Dengue, Just Approved By The FDA, Has A Dark...

www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/05/03/719037789/...

 

Effects on COVID-19 vaccination programEdit

A study published by the University of the Philippines College of Medicine directly attributes the Dengvaxia controversy as one of the major factors for the vaccine hesitancy of Filipinos affecting the COVID-19 vaccination program

Not surprised  Exactly the same scenario ... Approved Vaccines  

People are so ignorant of the facts

You would know….

[Ohokaman 5,848]

1 hour ago, Gruff said:

He said it on National Television viewed by millions  Hard to argue Hokes  The Program Doctors aired here over a year later for ALL to see...Disgraceful

No fucking idea some people….

[Gruff 2,805]

7 hours ago, Ohokaman said:

No fucking idea some people….

Hokes you are in above your head. You have the time but not the inclination, this isnt Man U versus Liverpool you can’t just decide to pick sides here, no study no clue 

[Gruff 2,805]

...or is it Hyberian Motherwell 

[Gruff 2,805]

We are well aware ( those who research) that the thing they describe as ‘Covid 19 ‘ kills 0.14 % of the Population at best, dependant on their response( ours is non existent , relying on an experiment ) . Plank and Hendy get paid for the Crap they produce . Get real jobs after the post Mortem and hopefully jail . The lengths the powers that be are going to should concern many given the Knowledge we have, but no alarm bells ringing.... Dengvaxia was the pre cursor, the potential of Death from this Vaccine over time is well documented.... why should people need coercion for something that is designed to saves lives  

[Gruff 2,805]

This is typical of a Vaers case reported in US, 15,000 deaths but like Covid most are Elderly... safe Vaccine ? You be the judge  this patient looked to have been treated for an enlarged prostate and angina  but the Jab was the final nail in the coffin ... was Covid going to produce a similar result ? 

VAERS ID: 914917 (history)   Form: Version 2.0   Age: 63.0   Sex: Male   Location: Illinois     Vaccinated: 2020-12-19 Onset: 2020-12-23    Days after vaccination: 4 Submitted: 0000-00-00 Entered: 2020-12-30 Vaccin­ation / Manu­facturer Lot / Dose Site / Route COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) / PFIZER/BIONTECH EJ1685 / UNK - / - Administered by: Work       Purchased by: ? Symptoms: Death, Myocardial infarction  SMQs:, Myocardial infarction (narrow), Embolic and thrombotic events, arterial (narrow) Life Threatening? No Birth Defect? No Died? Yes    Date died: 2020-12-23    Days after onset: 0 Permanent Disability? No Recovered? No Office Visit? No ER Visit? No ER or Doctor Visit? No Hospitalized? No Previous Vaccinations:  Other Medications: Atenolol, Chlorthalidone, Tamsulosin Current Illness: None Preexisting Conditions: hypertension Allergies: None Diagnostic Lab Data: Death certificate CDC Split Type: Write-up: Death by massive heart attack. Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine EUA

[Gruff 2,805]

Lets go back to the Begining . He states ( in 2010 ) this decade of vaccines ends with a brilliant vaccine to be used on the World . Nothing to see here  

Bill and Melinda Gates Pledge $10 Billion in Call for Decade of...

www.gatesfoundation.org/Ideas/Media-Center/Press-Releases/...

[Gruff 2,805]

So we are being locked up because of cases.... 

May 7, 2021

A team of over 1,000 lawyers and over 10,000 medical experts led by Dr. Reiner Fuellmich have begun legal proceedings against the CDC, WHO & the Davos Group for crimes against humanity.

 

Fuellmich and his team present the faulty PCR test and the order for doctors to label any comorbidity death as a Covid death as fraud. The PCR test was never designed to detect pathogens and is 100% faulty at 35 cycles. All the PCR tests overseen by the CDC are set at 37 to 45 cycles. The CDC admits that any tests over 28 cycles are not admissible for a positive reliable result. This alone invalidates over 90% of the alleged covid cases / ”infections” tracked by the use of this faulty test.

You can lead a horse to water 

Imagine having the propaganda machine on Show from our Government , no wonder people are getting sucked in to this fraud

[Gruff 2,805]

Voices for freedom have posted letter for employers who try to mandate the risky shot cuzzy bro, why would anyone need to twist you’re arm for something that’s good for you 

Good watch AM show on three this morning, Hipkiss tore into the bullshitting Hipkins and we watched the Tweedles Jackson and Hendy spout more bullshit, these people work for you and are putting more lively hoods at risk

 

M.LetterToEmployer-VaccinationOrder2021-09-28.docx