Old Man 164 Report post Posted July 12, 2023 The Mdn 3YO 1400m at Avondale on Wednesday 19 July will now be open to both 2YOs and 3YOs. never seen that before ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby3051 10,978 Report post Posted July 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, Old Man said: The Mdn 3YO 1400m at Avondale on Wednesday 19 July will now be open to both 2YOs and 3YOs. never seen that before ... Been many of them...seems you not been looking in the right places. Black Kirrama and shaneMcAlister 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,010 Report post Posted July 12, 2023 Old Man these races have been around for more than 50 years. EG Wanganui had one in divisions on the 3/7/73. 26 ran. At Levin on the 25/7/73 they ran a maiden race for 2yos and upwards. Two divisions and 33 ran aged between two and four. Black Kirrama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiknsmack 490 Report post Posted July 12, 2023 They have them quite often down south from Christmas onwards. The 2yo schedule is such a mess (ie barely extant) that 2yos would be completely screwed if they didn't have the option to run against older horses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,875 Report post Posted July 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, chiknsmack said: They have them quite often down south from Christmas onwards. The 2yo schedule is such a mess (ie barely extant) that 2yos would be completely screwed if they didn't have the option to run against older horses. They programme them, but 2yos virtually never run in them. As you say the 2yo schedule in the SI is a disgrace. chiknsmack, Patiti, Black Kirrama and 1 other 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Hussai 428 Report post Posted July 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, We're Doomed said: They programme them, but 2yos virtually never run in them. As you say the 2yo schedule in the SI is a disgrace. I'm pretty sure Avondale is not in the South Island WD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,875 Report post Posted July 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Zak Hussai said: I'm pretty sure Avondale is not in the South Island WD Chiknsmack was referring to the SI, as was I. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stodge 1,951 Report post Posted July 12, 2023 It doesn't happen up here to any extent - there are I think three or four races in the autumn where it happens (though 2-y-o are allowed to run in the Group 1 Nunthorpe which is our only genuine all-aged Group1). There are 1200m races at Newmarket and Beverley in late September and October and for some reason I think there are a couple of others - it's a gap in the market. Black Kirrama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_gee 417 Report post Posted July 13, 2023 happens a lot more this time if year to get experience for 2 year olds coming into new season Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man 164 Report post Posted July 13, 2023 Yeah, Avondale always had the first 2yo races in their August meeting a while ago. Remember Bonecrusher flashing home for 4th in his first start. over 800 metres ? Black Kirrama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patiti 274 Report post Posted July 13, 2023 2yo's not allowed to race in August. Wanganui always had the first in September. Old Man 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man 164 Report post Posted July 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Patiti said: 2yo's not allowed to race in August. Wanganui always had the first in September. Bonecrusher first start. 31 August 1984 4th 2YO colts & geldings Avondale 800m Gary Stewart - Bold Edition 54.3 Bon Sang 54.3 Chief Mayo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
We're Doomed 4,875 Report post Posted July 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, Old Man said: Bonecrusher first start. 31 August 1984 4th 2YO colts & geldings Avondale 800m Gary Stewart - Bold Edition 54.3 Bon Sang 54.3 Chief Mayo Not a bad lineup Hi Ho Silver 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattski 176 Report post Posted July 15, 2023 How many less kgs should a 2yr old have over a 3yr old if racing now at wfa? The reason I ask is a 3yr old in oct get a massive weight relief in cox eh. It seems a tough gig for a 2yr old now if it gets minimal weight relief? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiknsmack 490 Report post Posted July 16, 2023 9 hours ago, Mattski said: How many less kgs should a 2yr old have over a 3yr old if racing now at wfa? The reason I ask is a 3yr old in oct get a massive weight relief in cox eh. It seems a tough gig for a 2yr old now if it gets minimal weight relief? https://pureform.com.au/wfa.php Halfway down the page is the Australian WFA scale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stodge 1,951 Report post Posted July 16, 2023 Just did some checking. THE PLATINUM QUEEN ran as a 2-y-o filly in last year's Nunthorpe carrying 8 stone 2 lbs or 52 kg. HIGHFIELD PRINCESS, an older filly, carried 9 stone 12 lbs or 62.5 kg and gave the younger filly a two and a half length beating. That's as wide a weight range as you will ever see up here. I mentioned a race over 1200m at Newmarket at the back end of the season - it's held at the last meeting of the year. Last year, the 3-y-o EHRAZ carried 62.5kg and beat two juveniles who were carrying 54 kg. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
