Insider 3,973 Report post Posted February 21, 2015 It never fails to amaze me how stupid some people are when it comes to the yearling sales and the buyers prejudice against later born foals. Today's superstar winner, Headwater was born 6 Nov. By Australian standards that's a late foal!!! P.S. He will win the Slipper by a minute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey 2,037 Report post Posted February 21, 2015 Yeah or how they use it as a selling ploy, hey look at this September foal roll up roll up... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby 160 Report post Posted February 21, 2015 Yep So you Think a November foal wonder how many decided not to bid because of being 'late' goes along with first foals, old mares etc etc..... jess 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerula 1,403 Report post Posted February 23, 2015 I had a share of a 30 November was Group 1 at 3yo. Had she been an early one someone else would have paid much more money at Karaka for her. jess 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Vivian 742 Report post Posted February 24, 2015 Beechcraft [going back a few years here but worked with him as a yearling and later as a 2/3yo] - was an early DECEMBER foal: won the Wanganui and Hawkes Bay Guineas - then went to Aussie and smashed the previously unbeaten Sir Dapper in the Caulfield Guineas! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classic one 12 Report post Posted February 24, 2015 Lion Tamer a foal born 26 November. He won three races as a 2yo including two stakes races. VRC Derby as an early 3yo. Group One winner in Aus as 4 yo also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,973 Report post Posted February 24, 2015 Now that we have clearly debunked the prejudice against late foals, why not name a few good ones out of old mares. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classic one 12 Report post Posted February 24, 2015 Subzero. Dam was 21 when she foaled him Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerula 1,403 Report post Posted February 24, 2015 Beat this with a recent one. Twinkling 2002 Starway 1977 - Limitless 1979 Twinkling won 221k and the Cornwell. 2nd Counties Cup Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby 160 Report post Posted February 24, 2015 Somethingroyal was 18 when she foaled Secretariat debunking the view by some never to buy out of a mare over 15!! Huey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzy 143 Report post Posted February 24, 2015 I have been buying yearlings for over 25 years and have never considered the foaling date to be very relevant by the time a yearling is approx 15 months old. Only time i really look at the date is if the horse is small or a bit backwards, but often this is due to preparation etc. As to the old mares debate I dont have problems with a foal from an older mare if the foal is a good type and/or the mare has been a good producer of runners. Statistically though, there is some evidence that the first 3 or 4 foals are often superior runners to later foals. As always there are exceptions - I think Balmerinos dam was 20 or 21 when he was foaled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gubellini 4,010 Report post Posted February 25, 2015 Bern Maid was 18 when she foaled Bernborough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...