Taxpayer Funding

[Gruff 2,833]

WHY do Kiwi taxpayers fund utterly useless Flu Vaccines given what National are doing carving good Kiwis out of jobs to reduce spending..

 

The Money Wasted on this 'religion' is mind boggling, if you believe in these toxins pay for it out of your own pocket. The list of people who take these vaccines in good faith as believers getting very sick is long but we NEVER hear of consequence ...only privately

 They are targeting the Island Community on TV at present with some 'green' gremlin and with' Shingles' some weird looking monster..... wake up they are treating the Public as braindead

[eljay 1,723]

Most of the "general public" are, Gruff

[tripple alliance 1,039]

12 hours ago, Gruff said:

WHY do Kiwi taxpayers fund utterly useless Flu Vaccines given what National are doing carving good Kiwis out of jobs to reduce spending..

 

The Money Wasted on this 'religion' is mind boggling, if you believe in these toxins pay for it out of your own pocket. The list of people who take these vaccines in good faith as believers getting very sick is long but we NEVER hear of consequence ...only privately

 They are targeting the Island Community on TV at present with some 'green' gremlin and with' Shingles' some weird looking monster..... wake up they are treating the Public as braindead

Really appreciated Gruff the taxpayer paying for my annual flu jab  , that's the double for me all done , covid 5 and flu jab , all bases covered . Now what would you do , it looks like I'm facing a substantial health cost in the near future and I mean substantial , why not cover all bases to avoid unforeseen problems , it would be a bugger if I spent the money and had a flu induced heart attack or a severe dose of covid just after parting with the money , decision time is getting closer , would you try to cover as many potential problems before a serious spend or not , the scans alone are between $15-$18,000  

[Gruff 2,833]

What exactly is a 'Flu induced heart attack?  I've spent hours looking at studies around this theory and most end with a comment involving large scale studies being required with mega bucks thrown at them....if  your health is Shithouse it's a no brainer you are more prone, question remains is it 'the bugs' or a plethora of conditions related to environment, lifestyle painkillers and Vaccines....do you really believe these vaccines are keeping you alive ? You don't strike me as that foolish....the biggest killer is Stress and if these 'Placebos' mask your ignorance of the facts then why not

[tripple alliance 1,039]

On 4/24/2024 at 9:36 PM, Gruff said:

What exactly is a 'Flu induced heart attack?  I've spent hours looking at studies around this theory and most end with a comment involving large scale studies being required with mega bucks thrown at them....if  your health is Shithouse it's a no brainer you are more prone, question remains is it 'the bugs' or a plethora of conditions related to environment, lifestyle painkillers and Vaccines....do you really believe these vaccines are keeping you alive ? You don't strike me as that foolish....the biggest killer is Stress and if these 'Placebos' mask your ignorance of the facts then why not

What exactly is a 'Flu induced heart attack? You should know that but I will explain the obvious , the flu puts the body under extreme stress  and breathing is a struggle so the heart is stressed and often with elderly people it gives out .

In most cases vaccines are a preventative not a cure as I'm sure you know and that's why I'm all vaxed up , I don't need any unwanted issues at the moment given what I am about to invest in (subject to further medical advice) but so far the advice is do it sooner rather than later while I am still going well and I am going well , the side  effects of the radiation treatment are now fully gone . Next week I have a catchup and it's decision time and my wife is going to ask , (and you will love this)  does she  need to buy a geiger counter .

 

[Gruff 2,833]

13 hours ago, tripple alliance said:

What exactly is a 'Flu induced heart attack? You should know that but I will explain the obvious , the flu puts the body under extreme stress  and breathing is a struggle so the heart is stressed and often with elderly people it gives out .

In most cases vaccines are a preventative not a cure as I'm sure you know and that's why I'm all vaxed up , I don't need any unwanted issues at the moment given what I am about to invest in (subject to further medical advice) but so far the advice is do it sooner rather than later while I am still going well and I am going well , the side  effects of the radiation treatment are now fully gone . Next week I have a catchup and it's decision time and my wife is going to ask , (and you will love this)  does she  need to buy a geiger 

So a Vaccine is a 'Preventative' yet it doesn't prevent people from getting what it's 'designed ' for ?  And after taking them you can Die / and or suffer hundreds of different side effects many life long.. but for 'many' supposedly  no worries...and this isn't just Pfizers potion. So if my health is compromised the Obvious next step is to inject something of unknown origin with a dubious profile...smart move alright. Most people after a health scare tend to make better health / lifestyle choices so their outcomes are improved, to give credit to Vaccines is unfounded and not proven. 

[tripple alliance 1,039]

9 hours ago, Gruff said:

So a Vaccine is a 'Preventative' yet it doesn't prevent people from getting what it's 'designed ' for ?  And after taking them you can Die / and or suffer hundreds of different side effects many life long.. but for 'many' supposedly  no worries...and this isn't just Pfizers potion. So if my health is compromised the Obvious next step is to inject something of unknown origin with a dubious profile...smart move alright. Most people after a health scare tend to make better health / lifestyle choices so their outcomes are improved, to give credit to Vaccines is unfounded and not proven. 

Here's one for you Gruff and perhaps very interesting to many others , Moderna again bugger anyway have a read. 

Cancer jab that doubles chance of survival a real ‘gamechanger’ for patients

In a ‘gamechanger’ for skin cancer patients, the world’s first personalized mRNA jab for melanoma is being tested in British patients, offering hopes of a cure. The treatment, which also has the potential to stop lung, bladder and kidney cancer, is custom-built for each person in just a few weeks. It works by telling the body to hunt down cancer cells and prevent the deadly disease from coming back. A stage 2 trial of the jab, involving pharma firms Moderna and MSD, found it dramatically reduced the risk of the cancer returning in melanoma patients. Now a final phase 3 trial has been launched, led by University College London Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust (UCLH) 

[Insider 4,085]

On 4/23/2024 at 9:03 AM, tripple alliance said:

Really appreciated Gruff the taxpayer paying for my annual flu jab  , that's the double for me all done , covid 5 and flu jab , all bases covered . Now what would you do , it looks like I'm facing a substantial health cost in the near future and I mean substantial , why not cover all bases to avoid unforeseen problems , it would be a bugger if I spent the money and had a flu induced heart attack or a severe dose of covid just after parting with the money , decision time is getting closer , would you try to cover as many potential problems before a serious spend or not , the scans alone are between $15-$18,000  

Are you mad? Maybe you spent time in England in the 80's and got that "Mad Cow Disease"

[tripple alliance 1,039]

47 minutes ago, Insider said:

Are you mad? Maybe you spent time in England in the 80's and got that "Mad Cow Disease"

I was in England early 70s so just missed that one however the world has moved on . Quote , After more than 20 years, the 'mad cow' blood donation restriction will be removed on 29 February.

Now where else am I mad , covid jabs? , flu jab ? or forking out for a possible/probable (maybe) life extender , it seems likely tomorrow is  decision time on that one , if after the first scans and tests I am confirmed as a candidate then it's spend $35k to see if it works, if it proves to be working then front up for round 2 , fortunately I have made a few $s on the horses over the years so I don't have to cash up assets , interesting times for me .

[Insider 4,085]

20 minutes ago, tripple alliance said:

I was in England early 70s so just missed that one however the world has moved on . Quote , After more than 20 years, the 'mad cow' blood donation restriction will be removed on 29 February.

Now where else am I mad , covid jabs? , flu jab ? or forking out for a possible/probable (maybe) life extender , it seems likely tomorrow is  decision time on that one , if after the first scans and tests I am confirmed as a candidate then it's spend $35k to see if it works, if it proves to be working then front up for round 2 , fortunately I have made a few $s on the horses over the years so I don't have to cash up assets , interesting times for me .

Maybe I am out of order. Keep us up to date on your journey.

[tripple alliance 1,039]

11 hours ago, Insider said:

Maybe I am out of order. Keep us up to date on your journey.

All good I choose to put this out there , some see things differently than I do (Gruff)  but I feel I do what I need to do , on we go .

[Shad 1,564]

I know they were talking about tax cuts, haven't heard to much more on that, won't be enough to get me a new chest freezer, anyone out there recommend  any brands, or duds.

[tripple alliance 1,039]

23 hours ago, Insider said:

Maybe I am out of order. Keep us up to date on your journey.

Well here goes today was to say the least a very pleasant surprise and possibly some important info for others , first my big spend has been put on hold , my psa reading has only lifted 1  point (24)  and thanks to some meds given to me last time my energy levels have improved substantially and my outward appearance has improved (not pale) , my nymph nodes are still swollen but it's thought the cancer is small in the nymph nodes anyway now the useful info I asked if chemo was possible again , not really it could cause to much collateral damage BUT .

None funded drugs, (out of options Pharmac drugs) it was suggested I could go private and pay for some none pharmac funded chemo from Ausse which is  proving to be very successful, less severe  and reasonably inexpensive , this approach hasn't been discussed before because some public hospital oncologists don't deal with none funded foreign treatments so to anyone in a similar situation to me with any type of cancer it's worth a conversation , I don't know how many treatments in time I might need but  if it's 6 then $8/ $9000 might do the job that's along way from $75/$80,000 I was  previously up for, I can now save this treatment for a later date if required.

So at the moment change nothing  , keep active then another scan in 3 months  and continue taking the prescribed meds , I hope Gruff is paying attention Big Pharma is serving me well , 3 Stella Artois  tonight and enjoying every drop Keep Smiling Happy Days 

[Shad 1,564]

13 hours ago, tripple alliance said:

Well here goes today was to say the least a very pleasant surprise and possibly some important info for others , first my big spend has been put on hold , my psa reading has only lifted 1  point (24)  and thanks to some meds given to me last time my energy levels have improved substantially and my outward appearance has improved (not pale) , my nymph nodes are still swollen but it's thought the cancer is small in the nymph nodes anyway now the useful info I asked if chemo was possible again , not really it could cause to much collateral damage BUT .

None funded drugs, (out of options Pharmac drugs) it was suggested I could go private and pay for some none pharmac funded chemo from Ausse which is  proving to be very successful, less severe  and reasonably inexpensive , this approach hasn't been discussed before because some public hospital oncologists don't deal with none funded foreign treatments so to anyone in a similar situation to me with any type of cancer it's worth a conversation , I don't know how many treatments in time I might need but  if it's 6 then $8/ $9000 might do the job that's along way from $75/$80,000 I was  previously up for, I can now save this treatment for a later date if required.

So at the moment change nothing  , keep active then another scan in 3 months  and continue taking the prescribed meds , I hope Gruff is paying attention Big Pharma is serving me well , 3 Stella Artois  tonight and enjoying every drop Keep Smiling Happy Days 

Good to hear some positive news that your ticking along ok, the PSA test is an interesting one and controversial, last time doctor suggested to a friend, put it on hold,  as his levels been very low an stable, any tiny variable and he sends you to specialist, only seems to be interested if he has symptoms, weird thing is some don't at all, all abit bizarre and confusing for him, good luck and keep on doing what is working for you.

[tripple alliance 1,039]

On 5/1/2024 at 10:43 AM, Shad said:

Good to hear some positive news that your ticking along ok, the PSA test is an interesting one and controversial, last time doctor suggested to a friend, put it on hold,  as his levels been very low an stable, any tiny variable and he sends you to specialist, only seems to be interested if he has symptoms, weird thing is some don't at all, all abit bizarre and confusing for him, good luck and keep on doing what is working for you.

Quote , only seems to be interested if he has symptoms . Yes some truth in that  PSA readings are notoriously unreliable so how some one feels once diagnosed is important , one of King Charles Drs spoke of how well he was feeling , they seem to place great importance on that but you do have to wonder how some one with access to the best Drs and regular checkups can fall into the cancer trap , some one missed some thing . Just a bit of info once I  started hormone treatment my PSA dropped from 15 to less than 1 and stayed down for quite some time, not so long ago the treatment was rather more drastic (ouch)

[Shad 1,564]

Seems like you dammed if you do and dammed if you don't, unfortunately not a fool proof method available, you'd think something would be more accurate. 

[crustyngrizzly 1,707]

I pay over 5k every 3 months for my treatment.If it had been detected before 1/12 24 it would have been 5k every 8 months because the company subsidised it.

Very aggressive type of C but hopeful with this drug and the zapping i have had i might last longer .

[Gruff 2,833]

On 4/29/2024 at 7:48 PM, Insider said:

Are you mad? Maybe you spent time in England in the 80's and got that "Mad Cow Disease"

They culled 11 million Cows from that fraud. Don't believe everything you read

[Gruff 2,833]

On 4/27/2024 at 8:52 AM, tripple alliance said:

Here's one for you Gruff and perhaps very interesting to many others , Moderna again bugger anyway have a read. 

Cancer jab that doubles chance of survival a real ‘gamechanger’ for patients

In a ‘gamechanger’ for skin cancer patients, the world’s first personalized mRNA jab for melanoma is being tested in British patients, offering hopes of a cure. The treatment, which also has the potential to stop lung, bladder and kidney cancer, is custom-built for each person in just a few weeks. It works by telling the body to hunt down cancer cells and prevent the deadly disease from coming back. A stage 2 trial of the jab, involving pharma firms Moderna and MSD, found it dramatically reduced the risk of the cancer returning in melanoma patients. Now a final phase 3 trial has been launched, led by University College London Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust (UCLH) 

So why exactly have you got cancer?

Bad luck?

Why are we spending hundreds  of millions on 'Cures and more on treatment but little on why....$$$$$$$$$

Not rocket science and this is why you  CANNOT Trust these Fraudsters

Ivermectin 10c ....Failed Covid therapeutics $700 a course....no brainer 

 

[tripple alliance 1,039]

16 hours ago, Gruff said:

So why exactly have you got cancer?

Bad luck?

Why are we spending hundreds  of millions on 'Cures and more on treatment but little on why....$$$$$$$$$

Not rocket science and this is why you  CANNOT Trust these Fraudsters

Ivermectin 10c ....Failed Covid therapeutics $700 a course....no brainer 

 

Plenty of assessment of Ivermectin now been completed and has proven to be an over hyped disappointment .

Cancer , well the good book says 3 score and 10 is your lot but thanks to big pharma the average  life expectancy in NZ is now 82 so no surprise we are seeing more people effected with the big C .

[tripple alliance 1,039]

On 5/7/2024 at 4:05 PM, crustyngrizzly said:

I pay over 5k every 3 months for my treatment.If it had been detected before 1/12 24 it would have been 5k every 8 months because the company subsidised it.

Very aggressive type of C but hopeful with this drug and the zapping i have had i might last longer .

Best wishes Crustyngrizzly its a battle but the Drs are very good and I'm sure they are doing there very best for you . One things for sure you are not alone the first time I sat down for a tank up I was shocked at how many others were there especially younger people  all sitting down waiting for various treatments it's thought 50% of the population will have cancer at some time in their lives . Again good luck and  best wishes .

[Gruff 2,833]

8 hours ago, tripple alliance said:

Plenty of assessment of Ivermectin now been completed and has proven to be an over hyped disappointment .

Cancer , well the good book says 3 score and 10 is your lot but thanks to big pharma the average  life expectancy in NZ is now 82 so no surprise we are seeing more people effected with the big C .

By whom? Ivermectin is a Nobel prize winning discovery from soil in Japan. The expensive therapeutics you consider 'safe and effective ' are pushed by the FDA a swinging door from Big Pharma...money pays for Studies and Trials

Cancer comes and goes throughout your life, you 'Sceen' you expose yourself to a false diagnosis and expose yourself to Stress which is the real killer.. these treatments are expensive and funded through a very dubious Medsafe from exposed literature .....quality of life is important, not spending $$$$$ lying in bed....Ambulances should be at the clifftop worse case scenario....the huge Money we have spent is going to the wrong place , but many lead lifestyles that compromise longevity.... Sauna is a great way to eliminate toxins....

 

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[tripple alliance 1,039]

13 hours ago, Gruff said:

By whom? Ivermectin is a Nobel prize winning discovery from soil in Japan. The expensive therapeutics you consider 'safe and effective ' are pushed by the FDA a swinging door from Big Pharma...money pays for Studies and Trials

Cancer comes and goes throughout your life, you 'Sceen' you expose yourself to a false diagnosis and expose yourself to Stress which is the real killer.. these treatments are expensive and funded through a very dubious Medsafe from exposed literature .....quality of life is important, not spending $$$$$ lying in bed....Ambulances should be at the clifftop worse case scenario....the huge Money we have spent is going to the wrong place , but many lead lifestyles that compromise longevity.... Sauna is a great way to eliminate toxins....

 

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Can ivermectin affect your heart

 

Conclusion: IVM pre-treatment demonstrates detrimental effects in cardiac ischemia through exacerbation of cardiac arrhythmia, myocardial dysfunction, and increased cardiac hypertrophy. Therefore, the use of IVM in ischemic heart patients should be done with great caution.25 Oct 2023

13 March 2024  New research led by the University of Oxford has concluded that the antiparasitic drug ivermectin does not provide clinically meaningful benefits for treating COVID-19 .  Despite early studies suggesting potential, the PRINCIPLE trial's findings – published in the Journal of Infection - indicate that ivermectin does not lead to clinically significant improvements in COVID-19 recovery times, hospital admissions, or mortality rates. While a modest two-day reduction in symptom duration, from 16 days to 14 days, was observed, this did not translate into clinically meaningful benefits or improvements in longer-term health outcomes.