Swoopa 281 Report post Posted March 15, 2018 OK Cafers, some advice on the following would be greatly appreciated. We are looking at rolling the dice with a new season sire in NSW with one of our mares.(speed sire preferred ) The mare is by Pentire out of a Marscay mare. Thanks in advance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby 160 Report post Posted March 16, 2018 There's only 3 new season sires listed with Arion at the moment sure there'll be more announced later in the year... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
optical 41 Report post Posted March 16, 2018 If Darley retire Kermantari he just looks all round awesome. I hope he has another years racing tho Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swoopa 281 Report post Posted March 16, 2018 Thanks guys,we will keep our eye out for the new season . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Zip 468 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 One young stallion you might consider is Outreach who is a full to Overeach, the Golden Slipper winner and 3/4 to Reward For Effort. He is by Exceed & Excel -he is 2nd season..if you’re breeding to race.. He is at Widden Stud and there is no better Stud in Australasia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey 2,037 Report post Posted March 19, 2018 If you're considering 2nd season sires I'd take a look at Hallowed Crown , I think his fee is a bit rich based on sales to date but I'm sure they'd work with you at a place like Darley. Was a top class racehorse,out of a Top Class 2yo filly from a family that has had a handy stallion in it over the past few years ;0 Best of luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Zip 468 Report post Posted March 20, 2018 19 hours ago, Huey said: If you're considering 2nd season sires I'd take a look at Hallowed Crown , I think his fee is a bit rich based on sales to date but I'm sure they'd work with you at a place like Darley. Was a top class racehorse,out of a Top Class 2yo filly from a family that has had a handy stallion in it over the past few years ;0 Best of luck! Huey I’d be interested to know if you’ve had any dealings with Darley directly or with studs that stand their stallions? My experience is they don’t tend to discount their fees. I’m using my experiences both in Australia and here in NZ...” there isn’t much room to negotiate but if you want to send 2 or more mares, I can discount the stallions we own to makeup the difference if you still want to use the Darley stallion”. This has been the situation at 3 different studs. However I understand they’ve been known to offer free return flights from NZ if you utilise one of their pricier Australian based stallions....which is a good deal for those with nice commercial mares who are keen to sell in Oz. They do have some nice stallions...scattered all around Aust & NZ...and I wouldn’t say no to most of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... 226 Report post Posted March 22, 2018 Darley discount for the right mares, also have discounted their stallions that stand in NZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoozi 38 Report post Posted March 22, 2018 We have sent mares across to Darley and they use to pick up the transport cost door to door, I'm not sure if they do that now. They tend to discount the Stallions that are not getting a full book sometimes because they are not getting the Darley mares. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Zip 468 Report post Posted March 22, 2018 8 hours ago, BruceL said: Darley discount for the right mares, also have discounted their stallions that stand in NZ Can you let me know what stallions here in NZ as I’ve approached several here for no luck with getting fees discounts...but have had no problem with non Darley owned stallions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... 226 Report post Posted March 23, 2018 10 hours ago, La Zip said: Can you let me know what stallions here in NZ as I’ve approached several here for no luck with getting fees discounts...but have had no problem with non Darley owned stallions Mapperley Stud Contributer/Complacent. Apparantly even more so when booking both or multiple Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey 2,037 Report post Posted March 23, 2018 13 hours ago, skoozi said: We have sent mares across to Darley and they use to pick up the transport cost door to door, I'm not sure if they do that now. They tend to discount the Stallions that are not getting a full book sometimes because they are not getting the Darley mares. I think they pay the transport if you are spending $20k + Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Zip 468 Report post Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, BruceL said: Mapperley Stud Contributer/Complacent. Apparantly even more so when booking both or multiple Yep - I was offered a good discount on Complacent (whom I love) because Mapperley own him but not the other chap...that Darley own...I see he is now a bit cheaper than his first season fee..so may consider him this year Also, couldn’t get any sizeable discount off Ambidexter at Cornerstone...and am keen to send a mare to Ghibbilines and will offer a break on agistment but really no wiggle room on Service fee....anyhow in the big scheme of things, the service fee is the cheap part of the exercise. im certainly not having a go at the Stud masters that stand the stallions. They have a fee schedule set by Darley and I guess they have to stick to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,973 Report post Posted March 23, 2018 I have got a beautiful filly weaning by Contributor. She is a standout, so much so that I am considering returning to him this year even though it will the third year. What I don’t like is their terms which are free return rather than live foal! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swynford 121 Report post Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Insider said: I have got a beautiful filly weaning by Contributor. She is a standout, so much so that I am considering returning to him this year even though it will the third year. What I don’t like is their terms which are free return rather than live foal! Just wondered what happens if the stallion dies...? there has been a few lately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insider 3,973 Report post Posted March 24, 2018 3 hours ago, Swynford said: Just wondered what happens if the stallion dies...? there has been a few lately. That's one of the problems! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...